test-drb July 2000

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by mrdos＠swbell.net

How elderly is "elderly"? I tried a Mac SE, but it didn't have enough memory. Would a Mac II work? I've been using a PowerMac. Is it OK to use 720K disks? Disk storage and capacity makes NO since to me. Thanks, Owen -----Original Message----- From: Jim Strickland <jim(a)calico.litterbox.com> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Thursday, July 13, 2000 2:28 AM Subject: Re: Running GS/OS On an Apple IIgs >When I did this I had to expand the files on an elderly macintosh to get >usable disks. They each write out a disk image. > > >> >> I have been trying very hard to get GS/OS running on my Apple IIgs ROM 1. I >> downloaded the disk images from Apple, and the disk seems to duplicate OK on >> a 3.5" 720K DOS Disk, but I get an UNABLE TO LOAD PRODOS message on the >> Apple IIgs. Does anyone have any ideas? >> >> Thanks, >> Owen >> >> > > >-- >Jim Strickland >jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > BeOS Powered! >-----------------------------------------------------------------------

23 years, 11 months

Helios Source (Was: RE: Jim Battle's SolACE: The next steps)

by r.stek＠snet.net

>Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 13:29:38 -0400 >From: Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> >Subject: Helios Source (Was: RE: Jim Battle's SolACE: The next steps) > >In all this talk of Sols, I recall that Stan Sokolow had finally >managed to wrestle the source code to the Helios disk OS away from >whomever it was who ended up with the PTC IP rights. I have the source for the resident portion, and am sending it to Jim soon. I do have the Helios Owner's manual and Repair Manual, as well as a (supposedly) working Helios and lots of 8" disks and software for it. (Why don't I have it up and running? A l-o-n-g story.... But perhaps this fall...) And, yup, I have the zero-crossing fix. Thanks. Bob Stek Saver of Lost SOLs

23 years, 11 months

Coming Soon: Intel Mac-80, Interp-80, PLM-80

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Some of you may have seen my recent post about being able to restore data from very old 9-track magtape. Although I seem to have lost some 8080 assembly code I wrote (and some I didn't write but did laboriously type in), I was successful in getting the old Intel cross-development software back. The three programs are the Mac-80 Cross [Macro] Assembler, the Interp-80 software simulation of the MCS-80 8080 CPU, and the PLM-80 compiler (a two-pass monster). Now, the PLM80 compiler Fortran source has been available on the Digital Research archive and its mirrors for some time now. But I spent quite a bit of time with these three programs, fixing bugs and providing some minimal extensions. I am assuming I migrated the fixes and extensions to the Prime ports of this code. If so, then what I've got should be preferred over other copies (I'd ported these to the DEC-10 and the CDC6600 as well). So, as soon as I have a way to get stuff off the Prime and onto a PC, I'll upload them to my web storage area, and provide links so anyone interested can download them. I hope I didn't waste my time doing this; I searched high and low on the web for Mac80 and Interp80, to no avail. regards, -doug quebbeman

23 years, 11 months

Need Freon TF Substitute for Head Cleaning

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> Hmmm... perhaps a pond-control system of some sort would be a good use > for one of my classic computers. :-) ROFL!! 8D

23 years, 11 months

Jim Battle's SolACE: The next steps

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> I am glad that Jim has released his Sol emulator (if you didn't see his > message look at http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/solace.html) He has done a > fantastic job - Sol owners and Sol-wanna-be owners owe him a tremendous debt > of gratitude for making the Sol live again. His web site already has a very > good collection of both usable software and documentation (much of > generously shared by many list members). I was quite blown away by what I found. Sounds like what you've mentioned below, when added to it, will improve it another step, and I suppose I'll have to match your hand and fill in the remaining gaps with my moldy old stuff. > I propose to make it even better. I have begun OCR'ing and pdf'ing the > paper documentation I have. And I have just compiled a tape to send Jim > (including such goodies as Microsoft BASIC for the Sol, MSA BASIC, 8080 > Checkers, Computer Mart of NJ Dynamic Debugging System, Electric Pencil, and ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ooo, I remember wanting to get that, I guess it'll be easier now! > With Jim's approval I am willing to act as a clearinghouse for any and all > donations of programs and documentation to be made available on Jim's > website. I would prefer originals (with the understanding that I will VERY > carefully copy and return them) or good, clean copies of any ProcTech Sol > programs and documentation which are not already available on his site. I > will catalog, research, annotate, OCR, PDF, convert, etc. whatever I can and > transfer same to Jim for inclusion on his site. I will try to track down > copyright holders and even make this stuff legit (if necessary). Either this weekend, or one two weeks hence, I'll see if I can find my tapes and dust off the SOL and get copies made of each and get them to you. Bob, did you add the zero-crossing fix to your casette interface? Do you have the SOL manual scanned and converted to PDF? I'll be making five photocopies of the one I'll be selling on E-Bay in a few days, and I can scan any pages I might have that you might not have, and forward them to you. Wow, I wish there was this much interest in Primes! -doug q

23 years, 11 months

Jim Battle's SolACE: The next steps

by r.stek＠snet.net

I am glad that Jim has released his Sol emulator (if you didn't see his message look at http://www.thebattles.net/sol20/solace.html) He has done a fantastic job - Sol owners and Sol-wanna-be owners owe him a tremendous debt of gratitude for making the Sol live again. His web site already has a very good collection of both usable software and documentation (much of generously shared by many list members). I propose to make it even better. I have begun OCR'ing and pdf'ing the paper documentation I have. And I have just compiled a tape to send Jim (including such goodies as Microsoft BASIC for the Sol, MSA BASIC, 8080 Checkers, Computer Mart of NJ Dynamic Debugging System, Electric Pencil, and others). (okay, okay, so there may be some copyright issues here! But putting those aside....) I can OCR and PDF documentation. I can repair (some) cassette tapes (the pressure pad often comes unglued, but Radio Shack has repair kits) and make backup copies on new cassettes. But I can't do what Jim can do. Jim has already designed and hosted the website I only dreamed of. I would prefer that he spent his time on improving and extending SolACE. So here's the deal ... With Jim's approval I am willing to act as a clearinghouse for any and all donations of programs and documentation to be made available on Jim's website. I would prefer originals (with the understanding that I will VERY carefully copy and return them) or good, clean copies of any ProcTech Sol programs and documentation which are not already available on his site. I will catalog, research, annotate, OCR, PDF, convert, etc. whatever I can and transfer same to Jim for inclusion on his site. I will try to track down copyright holders and even make this stuff legit (if necessary). Obviously I am an extreme example of a Sol nut. But I do think that the Sol played a pivotal role in the evolution of personal computers, and it deserves a chance to shine again nearly 25 years later. This is an example of a little project that the classiccmp list is in a unique position to help along. So how about it? Go out to that storage shed, dig deep in that cellar, see what you can find. Check out Jim's website, and if he doesn't have what you have, then drop me a line. I'll let you know if it is something I am already working on or not. Note to Sellam: might make a nice freebie for the VCF - I bet Jim could provide SolACE and program or two, and I'd be willing to do a little write-up about ProcTech and Sol. I can see the advertising now: Attend the VCF and receive your very own 8080 Sol computer!

23 years, 11 months

Running GS/OS On an Apple IIgs

by mrdos＠swbell.net

I have been trying very hard to get GS/OS running on my Apple IIgs ROM 1. I downloaded the disk images from Apple, and the disk seems to duplicate OK on a 3.5" 720K DOS Disk, but I get an UNABLE TO LOAD PRODOS message on the Apple IIgs. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Owen

23 years, 11 months

CBM Plus/4 malfunctioning...can anyone help?

by mrdos＠swbell.net

I believe I have a Plus/4 I'm not using. I'll check. OK?

23 years, 11 months

PDP 8/I stuff

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Ummm, I have most of an 8/i, not enough for it to work though.. no docs, software, tty, etc. though. Will J ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

23 years, 11 months

Need Freon TF Substitute for Head Cleaning

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Sellam Ismail wrote: > > Um, before you do that, please know that is is most probably illegal to > > send such a substance through the mail. I'd check with the post office > > and different carriers before you just sent a bottle of that stuff off. > > Excellent suggestion... not to mention the possible illegality of > shipping it. One never know's what it's illegal to to transport > between states; just the other day, I learned that it's a federal > crime to send or sell someone, in certain states, water hyacinths for > a pond, for example. Uh.... a thing which is illegal in one state but legal in another cannot, by definition, be a federal crime. There are grey areas, like the Mann Act, which deal with transporting minors across state lines, but each state can define "minor" differently. Did you mean "felony"? Or were you referring to how the establishment acts about it when you commit it? That, I *do* understand... -dq

23 years, 11 months

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