Hi folks,
I forgot to mention, in the crash I had last week that damaged the Apple ///
etc I also had an HP Apollo 9000/600 workstation with 19" monitor. Whilst
I'm assuming the front passenger airbag caught the monitor since it was
unrestrained on the front seat (but the seat was pushed right up to the
dash) it is now however refusing to display blue. If I remove the B plug on
the RGB cable the display doesn't alter......since if I remove the green the
sync goes and they're from a similar era could I substitute a spare DEC
VRT21 I've got lying around here in the office? That monitor is a 60hz
1280x1024 RGB sync-on-green Trinitron.
Of course, I'd like to repair the HP's monitor, but my knowledge of
repairing monitors begins at the glass fuse and ends on the high voltage bit
:)
Oh, and anyone know why the PSU fuse in the Apple ][c is soldered in rather
than being in a carrier? I blew my ][c when I forgot it was a US
one.....doh.....I can solder in a replacement fuse but I just thought I'd
ask if there was a reason why it was soldered....if I can get a carrier to
fit I'd rather do that!
cheers
--
Adrian Graham MCSE/ASE/MCP
C CAT Limited
Gubbins: http://www.ccat.co.uk (work)
<http://www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk> (home)
<http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk> (80's computer collection)
"Missing you already" - Mark Radcliffe
I will die a happy man:
http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/8089/psiapple.html
An Apple ][ emulator for the Psion Series 5.
Hella sweet.
Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger
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Looking for a six in a pile of nines...
VCF 4.0 is September 30-October 1
San Jose Convention Center, San Jose, California
See http://www.vintage.org for details!
I was looking for a source for some Fairchild uL914's (DTL NOR gate)
and came across this:
The Fairchild UL914; DUAL NOR GATE was the ONLY MEMORY and REGISTER
UNIT used in the ENTIRE construction of the ON-BOARD Navigational Computer.
Redundancy and Failure Rates of a NEW Integrated Circuit family (RTL)
dictated the SAFEST possible Design for such an Incredible Mission.
Round 8pin EPOXY package.
4 pieces available $ 99.95 each
Other obscene prices, such as $35 2732's, are to be found at:
http://www.cybertoix.com/page0002.htm
(I can remember when the local Radio Shack had blister-packs of uL914's
for probably $.79 each. I believe they sold a "stack-it-yourself" binary
counter kit that used two uL914's for each bit. Anyone got a Radio Shack
catalog from 1976 or so to check my memory here?)
Tim.
I've been a lurker and sometimes participant in classiccom for
some time but other than a couple of instances (one-my own query
and the other from Charley Fox, who has/had a 2001 (IIRC) ,there
has been no mention of a machine contemporary with the Altair
and that precedes the Apple One. While it was peddled as a word
processor it was indeed an 8080 box. It has a passive backplane
with 30 pin sockets and looks similiar to a PET (including the fold-
up monitor to expose the inner-workings) with a separate keyboard
connected by ribbon cable and in my case a Shugart m.802 8''
FDD.
Unfortunately I don't have a com program for it (they were available-
one was called Miconet) but I keep hoping things will pop up. It
also had a language program for it-"Micom 80"- a modified
MS Basic80 .
I picked it up in the late 80's
It came with a Qume Daisy-wheel printer whose separate power-
supply weighs about 50 lbs. itself (I even have a garbage-found
spare). :^)
Below are time-line references for some perspective :
>FROM TIMELINE OF MICROCOMPUTER
HISTORY................Poulsson
March (75)
Fred Moore and Gordon French hold the first meeting of a new
microcomputer hobbyist's club in French's garage, in Menlo Park,
California. 32 people meet, including Bob Albrect, Steve Dompier,
Lee Felsenstein, Bob Marsh, Tom Pittman, Marty Spergel, Alan
Baum, and Steven Wozniak. Bob Albrect shows off an Altair, and
Steve Dompier reports on MITS, and how they had 4000 orders for
the Altair. [185.110] [266.104] [301.55] [346.18] [353.200]
[346.257] (April [208.67] 266.39)
Stephen Dorsey, founder of Automatic Electronic Systems,
sells his 25% of the company for $135,000. [615.98]
Stephen Dorsey and Louis Miller found Micom Data Systems,
in Canada. [615.90]
July (75)
Bill Gates and Paul Allen sign a licensing agreement with
MITS, for their implementation of the BASIC language. [299.8]
Bill Gates and Paul Allen ship 4K and 8K version of BASIC
v2.0. [123]
Dick Heiser opens Arrow Head Computer Company, subtitled
"The Computer Store", in Los Angeles, selling assembled Altairs,
boards, peripherals, and magazines. This is the first retail
computer store in the USA. [266.185] [684.41]
Micom Data Systems ships its first product, the Micom 2000
word processing computer. [615.99]
September (75)
IBM's Entry Level Systems unit unveils "Project Mercury", the
IBM 5100 Portable Computer. It is a briefcase-size minicomputer
with BASIC, 16KB RAM, tape storage, and built-in 5-inch screen.
Price: US$9000. Weight: 55 pounds. [9] [197.xi] (Price over
US$10,000 [203.10])
The first issue of Byte magazine is published. [9] [266.159]
March (76)
Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs finish work on a computer
circuit board, that they call the Apple I computer. [46]
By the end of its first year in business, Micom Data Systems
ships 180 Micom 2000 computers, worth $2 million. [615.99]
May (78)
Stephen Dorsey signs an agreement with Philips to sell them
80% ownership of Micom Data Systems. [615.103]
May (83)
Philips buys out Stephen Dorsey's remaining 20% ownership of
Micom Data Systems. [615.103]
[615] Knights of the New Technology - The Inside Story of
Canada's Computer Elite, by David Thomas, 1983.
** A whois search 3 years ago found Stephan Dorsey still active at:
Voice & Data Systems is the world leader in real-time, packetized
fax (TERRA FaxPAD) technology.
The president of VDS is Stephen Dorsey, one of the first
entrepreneurs to use integrated circuits in commercial applications.
Stephen has led his two previous start-ups to $200 million in
annual sales. His previous company, which was sold to Phillips NV
of Holland, had 1100 employees.
http://www.lisco.com/terra_globe/vdsdescrip.html
The 2 companies they mention are Micom and AES (an early
Canadian electronics company who also made computers)
It makes me wonder whether he might have had anything to do with
the Hyperion start-up since he was so integral to the Canadian
electronic industry.
One of their brochures(June,1981) brags about the 50 Micoms
used by NASA which were their primary word/data processors, and
were linked to the NASA's central mainframe.
Has anyone any info on this machine ? I have a copied software
manual and some brochures and Phillips Micom newsletters.
ciao larry
lgwalker(a)look.ca
walkers(a)altavista.net
bigwalk(a)xoommail.com
My Lisa 2 (vanilla one, 1.2A PSU) has developed a habit of turning the
screen off while she's running. In fact it's now permanently off which is
annoying to say the least. Some of you may have experienced this before so
here are the symptoms;
System working fine (at the time running MacWorks 1.0), screen goes dim as
per screensaver then blinks off like I'd hit the power button. It eventually
comes back on after leaving it powered down for a couple of hours. James at
Sigma Seven Systems said he thought he remembered there was a serial port
bug in MW1.0 that caused the screen to go off sometimes so I left it at
that.
I've now got myself a ProFile so I was intending on installing LisaOS 3.1,
but when she was powered up for the first time since maybe mid-may the
screen came on briefly then blinked off again as it did before; since then
it's only come back on once for around 10 minutes.
While all this is going on the machine keeps running normally. If I power up
I hear the self test passing, if I've got the first OS disk in (or MacWorks
boot disk) it will actually boot, if I've got a standard composite monitor
connected I can see things happening so I know the machine itself is
fine.......
Anyone else seen this? I've got another video card and screen coming over
but it won't be here till the end of august; to say I'm champing at the bit
would be an understatement :)
cheers!
> > I assume you mean something like a VAX 11/730 rather than the ol' Austin
>
> And what's wrong with an 11/730? It's a nice little machine...
>
> > Morris car of the same name? :) Actually, I would't tarnish a VAX by
> roping
> > a politician to one, so how about an AS/400 instead?
>
> Err, what about using a no-name Pentium PC clone??
Not heavy enough to hold one of those gasbags down.
Glen
0/0
> Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> wrote:
> > I have it on good authority that Smalltalk-80 was not ported to the
Star.
>
> I have it on good authority that there *was* a port. However, it was
> probably done by ParcPlace rather than PARC.
That would, at least, place the visit into late 86/early 87, years
after the *two* vists of Apple personnel to PARC, and at the end
of the Star's lifecycle as a product. The definitive story of the
development of the Lisa GUI can be read at:
http://home.san.rr.com/deans/lisagui.html
As the final design jelled, the designers did make comparisons
between what they'd come up with and the Star interface. IIRC,
property sheets were one of the big Star features that had a
direct analogue in the Lisa GUI.
BTW, the Green Book remains the best source for info on the
various implementations of Smalltalk (I have 3 of the four
books original projected for publication, Blue, Orange, and
Green; the book on Creating a User Interface that would have
documented using MVC (Model - View - Controller paradigm)
was never finished. Later, the Blue Book was discontinued and
replaced with a Purple Book which omitted details on how to
implement the Smalltalk Virtual Machine.
regards,
-doug quebbeman
> I've been trying to find anyone who might have the early Xerox release
> images that were provided to their licensees, Apple, HP, Tektronix, etc.,
> as described in _Smalltalk-80: Bits of History, Words of Advice_.
Ok. I have two versions of Apple's Virtual Image 1 release; these are
the second and third ones Apple did. I'll have to check Kurt Scmucker's
book tonight; the first release I knew of was the Macintosh XL version
(not quite a Lisa anymore). IIRC, the second release was to support the
Mac 512k (where I enter the picture, having owned the Blue Book for a
year and not believing I could acquire ST80 for US$50.00!!!). The second
release was to support the Mac Plus' 1MB of RAM.
There was a third internal release which replaced the MVC-based GUI
with the standard Mac GUI, all done with a Smalltalk version of MacApp.
Xerox then takes all the feedback from the Virtual Image 1 testers and
creates Virtual Image 2. There are updates, I think VI2.2 is actually
what gets shipped. Two versions are marketed for the Mac, 'DE' which is
for the Mac and Mac Plus, and another, can't recall the designation,
which is marketed for the Mac II (68020 code).
I have Smalltalk-80 VI2.2 DE, in vanilla and heavily enhanced form.
I do not have any docs that accompanied the product.
This period lasts about two years, then the product line off as ParcPlace
Systems. The first product they ship is Virtual Image 2.5, which has Peter
Deutsch's J-I-T compiler and virtual machine. Very fast.
Things get boring after VI2.5, as PPS quits chasing technology and starts
chasing dollars.
> I've asked several people who worked on it at PARC, and the responses
> I get are mostly "use Squeak instead". They don't seem to understand
> that someone might have a historical interest in the early released
> images.
<sigh>
> The Apple version for the Macintosh is reportedly not very much
> different from the Xerox image, though without seeing the latter I
> obviously can't confirm that.
AFAIK, APple never produces a VI2-based system. Kent Beck or Larry Teslar
could perhaps answer that more accurately. Another person to ask might be
Sam Adams, at UIUC (he used to have a Smalltalk firm in Triangle Park).
> I'd also like to get the Lisa version. It either ran on the bare
> metal or on Monitor, I'm not sure which.
The original disks for the two Apple releases I had are acting as
growth medium for something green, having spent time under water.
:-(
I may have archived the disk images before that happened; I most
definitely did manage to archive the ST80 VI2.2 DE disks.
Eric, if you're up late mailing, send any queries to me at
dougq(a)iglou.com
Take note of the confusing 'G's and 'Q's in that address.
regards,
-doug q
Actually, why not use the politicians/beaurecrats as lovely cement-weighted
pond ornaments?
Will J
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> From: Charles P. Hobbs (SoCalTip) <transit(a)lerctr.org>
> On Sat, 8 Jul 2000, Paul R. Santa-Maria wrote:
> > > From: Charles P. Hobbs (SoCalTip) <transit(a)lerctr.org>
> > > Around 1985 or so, a couple of manufacturers developed "sprite
boards"
> > > for the Apple II series (except the IIc, for obvious reasons)
> > Picked one from eBay in November for $5.
> Whoo-hoo. Good catch. (What's the name on the board so I can
> try fishing for one too?)
> > No docs or software, but I think
> > I have the Byte magazine where Ciarcia presented plans and software for
the
> > original. I have not even plugged it in yet.
> Does it have a TMS 9918 chip on it?
It is a "SPRITE 1" by Synetix Systems, Inc., 1983, with a TMS9918A, eight
memory chips (8328GVP AM9016FPC), four 74LS chips, one other chip, video
input and output RCA jacks, and the usual assortment of descrete
components.
I also have a manual called "apple-seed II" which has parts lists,
component layouts, and instructions for assembling Apple II compatible
cards. Page 3-3 lists a Sprite Graphics Card which also uses a TMS9918A
chip but has a different layout and only one chip (74LS00) besides the 9918
and memory (TMS4116) chips. It lists a reference: High-Resolution
Sprite-Oriented Colour Graphics by Steven A. Ciarcia; page 57; August 1982;
BYTE Publications, Inc.
Paul R. Santa-Maria
Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
paulrsm(a)ameritech.net
