test-drb June 2000

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by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Pat Barron <pat(a)transarc.ibm.com> wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Tony Duell wrote: > > > > The other is the 11/730. Small, slow, but there are only 2 ASICs (Memory > > ECC gate arrays IIRC). The rest is AMD bit-slice, PALs, and simple chips. > > > > Would the 11/725 also be a good/equivalent choice? My (possibly flawed) > understanding is that the 725 is basically a 730 squeezed into a > BA123-style "end-table" box (about the size of a Perq T2 or so). Right... identical CPU, no provisions for external expansion (but you _can_ squeeze a Unibus cable out it if you're careful), RC25 disks - fun but a pain - one motor with two disks; one removable, one fixed, 25Mb each. I used to have an RC25 cart with VMS 5.0 on it, so I know it fits, but I lost it and the machine when the business it was resting at closed with so little warning that I couldn't get it out. :-P The 11/725 case is a bit larger than a BA-123, but the aspect ratio is similar. -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

23 years, 10 months

Your dream computer room.

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> A vertical storage system with 3 foot deep by > 4 foot wide "shelves" mounted on a kind of chain > driven circular elevator. I got the idea from > some pictures of a car parking facility. The > shelf at the I/O position could slide onto a cart > which could then take it to a workstation where > it would lock in. I figure about 2 feet of > clearance between shelves and the whole system > being about 50 feet tall (or down into the floor) > so you could have 50 systems easily ready to use, > demo or work on. Sounds just like a White Data Systems Vertical Carousel... never got to work with one of those, but I wrote lots of code to move the WDS Horizontal Carousels back in the 80s... -doug q

23 years, 10 months

Your dream computer room.

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > > You never worked with overhead raceways, did you? > > > > Oh, they're great if you like your cables getting sliced > > up as you pull them through; pulling the raceway tops off > > (the alternative) is no fun either. > > I work with them every day and don't have such problems. I rather > like 'em. The ones I use are made by Newton...might wanna check 'em > out. Ho Ho Ho! Last time I pulled cable (raceways amongst others) was in college... somebody else gets all the fun now. Not that I mind work, Hell, I love it, I can watch it all day! -dq

23 years, 10 months

Your dream computer room.

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On June 29, Douglas Quebbeman wrote: > > > A couple of big APC Silicon UPSes, room air conditioner > > > (http://www.coolestspot.com/ is REALLY neat) Darkened glass > > > room dividers. A big control room like in wargames. And > > > I think overhead wiring raceways are cooler than a raised floor :) > > > > You never worked with overhead raceways, did you? > > Oh, they're great if you like your cables getting sliced > up as you pull them through; pulling the raceway tops off > (the alternative) is no fun either. I work with them every day and don't have such problems. I rather like 'em. The ones I use are made by Newton...might wanna check 'em out. -Dave McGuire

23 years, 10 months

Your dream computer room.

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> > A couple of big APC Silicon UPSes, room air conditioner > > (http://www.coolestspot.com/ is REALLY neat) Darkened glass > > room dividers. A big control room like in wargames. And > > I think overhead wiring raceways are cooler than a raised floor :) > > You never worked with overhead raceways, did you? Oh, they're great if you like your cables getting sliced up as you pull them through; pulling the raceway tops off (the alternative) is no fun either. -dq

23 years, 10 months

The cost of collecting debate

by allisonp＠world.std.com

From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> >Anyway, the IBM Incompatibles that I've got include : >Sanyo MBC555 >DEC Rainbow >HP150 >HP110+ >Sirius (Victor 9000) >IBM PCjr (sort-of. It'll boot standard PC-DOS, but quite a lot of standard >software won't run). >FTS-88 (I've never seen MS-DOS for it, only CP/M 86, but it's an 8088 box). You forgot the Vaxmate a 286 box that was mildly PC. >> Honestly, I have no desire for an altair/imsai/apple 1, so as long as those >> are "fashionable" and little else, I won't shed a tear over it. If, > >I, too, have little desire to own any of those. I have the altair, what junk. I do have a buch of other first machines of the SBC fame. Allison

23 years, 10 months

the other side of the equation - your SO/spouse

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

ROFL!!! -----Original Message----- From: Steve Robertson [mailto:steverob@hotoffice.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:41 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: RE: the other side of the equation - your SO/spouse > We had an agreement that if anything new came in, > something had to go out. This has limited my collecting for a little > while. I had the same agreement... Some new "stuff" came in so, I tossed the old "stuff" out. Now I live alone :-) Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

23 years, 10 months

A-1 Rating for Meyers Computer Services

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

Meyers Computer Services is an A-1 operation, so I can heartily recommend them if you ever want to do business with them. You may recall my post about a drive I bought on haggle. The drive in question arrived sans three SMD chips from the interface PCB, and would not spin up. The replacement arrived very quickly even though I told them to save money and go slow-boat-to-China with it. The replacement has the chips that were missing from the first one. I haven't tried it yet, but I already told them no big deal if it doesn't work. There are apparently a ton of these flooding the surplus market right now, and I've got another coming from another source (for less than this one cost), so I'm as happy as a pig in shiwhroishafowehfofhaew;fhawef -doug q

23 years, 10 months

the other side of the equation - your SO/spouse

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

> We had an agreement that if anything new came in, > something had to go out. This has limited my collecting for a little > while. I had the same agreement... Some new "stuff" came in so, I tossed the old "stuff" out. Now I live alone :-) Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

23 years, 10 months

the other side of the equation - your SO/spouse

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Since we're on the topic of collections, I have this question: How does your significant other/spouse deal with your hobby, if you have one (a SO, not a hobby), and what "concessions" do you make to stay in their good graces? Myself, I have the aforementioned 2-car garage, plus we have an "agreement" that for any "big" item, I have to get rid of an equivalent amount of stuff, whether it be modern or old. My SO just about throttled me when I mentioned "yeah, I picked up a couple more machines over the weekend" when I picked her up at the airport after a weekend trip a couple of years ago. She didnt quite think that the 35+ Sun SS1s, 3/80s, 3/50s, 3/60s, keyboards, and monitors, in piles in the living room, were a "couple" like I did. 8-) Of course, I lived in a 1/1 apartment at the time, so she was placated when I sold off most of the systems and bought her a leather jacket instead. Bill ("No, honey, please ignore the semi trailer and the forklift backing up to the garage...") -- +-------------------\ /-----------------+ | Bill Bradford | www.sunhelp.org | | mrbill(a)mrbill.net | www.decvax.org | | Austin, Texas USA | www.pdp11.org | +-------------------/ \-----------------+

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test-drb June 2000