test-drb June 2000

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by rexstout＠uswest.net

Added about a dozen boxes of Macintosh software and some minor hardware items to the collection, as well as a TRS-80 Model 100 with some books and a few ROM modules. Seems to be working just fine, but the bottom is covered in duct tape to keep some covers from falling off. Even got a modem cable! Oh yeah, and three boxes of aviation material, including several flight computers(Jeppesen CR-5 and CR-2, a plastic Dalton E-6B, a Cessna Model 185 computer, a Delta II Take-off computer, a half-plastic half-metal Dalton E-6B, a pair of CPU-26A/P's(all-metal), and a pair of Weems aircraft plotters). In the Mac stuff there are tons of programs, at least a half dozen copies of PageMaker, lots of odds and ends(what the heck do you do with a financial planner desk accessory? I don't even know if MacOS 8 supports those!) that I haven't sorted through yet. The MacSnap box was empty :-(, but there was an external 800k floppy drive. Anyone know of any good sites for TRS-80 stuff? OK, now the interesting part... It's an 8-volume book set called "The Secret Guide to Computers", tenth edition. Popular BASIC(Vol 1), Popular Systems(Vol 3), Popular Applications(Vol 5), Popular Languages(Vol 7), and then Hassles in BASIC(Vol 2), Hassles in Systems(Vol 4), Hassles in Applications(Vol 6) and Hassles in Languages(Vol 8). -- /--------------------------------------------------\ | http://jrollins.tripod.com/ rexstout(a)uswest.net | | list admin for orham and ham-mac at www.qth.net | | KD7BCY pdxham at www.egroups.com | \--------------------------------------------------/

24 years, 1 month

Fw: HP-85 Computer

by mrdos＠swbell.net

Can anyone help this guy out? -----Original Message----- From: David M. Curtis <kc8tk(a)ee.net> To: Owen Robertson <mrdos(a)swbell.net> Date: Monday, June 19, 2000 10:53 AM Subject: Re: HP-85 Computer Hello Owen: Thanks for replying to my e-mail. I have an HP85, but no manuals. I am looking for the command for the computer to format a tape. I knew it 15 years ago. The tape drives in the 85s are notorious for going bad. The rubber tire on the tape drive had rotted away and this makes the tape run too slowly. I was going to format a new tape to see if that would help me to get it running. Thanks, David Curtis KC8TK ----- Original Message ----- From: Owen Robertson To: David M. Curtis Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 1:17 AM Subject: Re: HP-85 Computer It didn't come with the manual for the computer itself, but it came with the manuals for the following ROMS: Matrix Printer/Plotter Input/Output Mass Storage Advanced Programming I would be glad to photo copy any information that you need as soon as I get the computer. What information do you need?

24 years, 1 month

PDP-11 Boards Need Identification / Available for Trades

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

About twelve years ago, I was digging through a dumpster in the office park where I worked at the time, and found a quantity of what I only just recently identified to be PDP-11 UniBus boards. Now that I know I have no need for them, I think they'll be going. While I'd prefer to trade them, in case I have to sell them on E-Bay, I'd like to know what it is I'm selling. Each card has what appears to be a model number, and I list those numbers below. Two things I'd take in trade: A Prime coffee mug, or almost anything of a Pr1mary nature; A keyboard encoding ROM for a SOL-20 keyboard. Maybe you'll have something really nifty I'd like, so if you want to trade but don't have the above items, drop me a line, make me an offer! Here are the board numbers: M5904 quantity three G7273 quantity three M7296 quantity one M7297 quantity one M7556 quantity one M9047 quqntity one M9300 quantity one M9202 quantity one thanks in advance, doug quebbeman

24 years, 1 month

vintage computer books for sale

by jdarren＠ala.net

Certainly! It is now reserved in your name. Thanks for your interest. jdarren -----Original Message----- From: William Donzelli <aw288(a)osfn.org> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> Date: Monday, June 19, 2000 4:16 PM Subject: Re: vintage computer books for sale >> DEC PDP-11 TMB11/TU10W DECmagtape System Maintenance Manual, 1979 >> (reproduction) > >RCS/RI might be interested in this manual - can you hold it while I ask >the other board members? > >William Donzelli >aw288(a)osfn.org

24 years, 1 month

vintage computer books for sale

by jdarren＠ala.net

$10 each plus book rate shipping. DEC LA36/LA35 DECwriter II Maintenance Manual, 1977 DEC LA36/LA35 DECwriter II User's Manual, 1977 DEC PDP-11 BA11-K 10.5 Inch Mounting Box Technical Manual, 1978 DEC PDP-11 DL-11 Asynchronous Line Interface Manual, 1975 (reproduction) DEC PDP-11 DL11-W Serial Line Unit/Real-Time Clock Option Maintenance Manual, 1977 DEC PDP-11 DR11-C General Device Interface Manual, 1974 DEC PDP-11 TMB11/TU10W DECmagtape System Maintenance Manual, 1979 (reproduction) DEC RK05/RK05J Disk Drive Preventive Maintenance Manual, 1976 DEC RK05/RK05J/RK05F Disk Driving Maintenance Manual, 1976 DEC RK05J Illustrated Parts Breakdown, 1977 (reproduction) DEC RK11-D and RK11-E Moving Head Disk Drive Controller Manual, 1975 (reproduction) PDP-11/45 16-Bit Computer Illustrated Parts Breakdown, 1974 (reproduction) Honeywell Series 200 214-1/214-2 Card Reader/Punch Theory of Operation Manual, 1968 Teletype Model 35 ASR Technical Manual, 1971

24 years, 1 month

Russian Space Shuttle (was RE: Programming on Paper)

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> wrote: > Ok, here's a quote from one of my favorite computer scientists > (Tom VanVleck... > > The quote is from an article of his on the Multicians web site: > > http://www.multicians.org/thvv/evolution.html > > I left my last job as a full-time programmer in 1990. A young > Russian (who had written some of the software tools used in > generating the control programming for Snowflake, the never-used > Soviet space shuttle) I've seen the Buran (sitting in Gorky Park at the moment). I've never heard it called "Snowflake". Is this the same bird? The Buran flew once, unmanned, and is now a tourist attraction, rotting away in the Russian weather. I have some pictures I can scan if anyone cares. :-P -ethan ===== Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/

24 years, 1 month

Russian Space Shuttle (was RE: Programming on Paper)

by dhquebbeman＠theestopinalgroup.com

> --- Douglas Quebbeman <dhquebbeman(a)theestopinalgroup.com> wrote: > > Ok, here's a quote from one of my favorite computer scientists > > (Tom VanVleck... > > > > The quote is from an article of his on the Multicians web site: > > > > http://www.multicians.org/thvv/evolution.html > > > > I left my last job as a full-time programmer in 1990. A young > > Russian (who had written some of the software tools used in > > generating the control programming for Snowflake, the never-used > > Soviet space shuttle) > > I've seen the Buran (sitting in Gorky Park at the moment). I've never > heard it called "Snowflake". Is this the same bird? The Buran flew > once, unmanned, and is now a tourist attraction, rotting away in the > Russian weather. I have some pictures I can scan if anyone cares. Now that you've said it, I do recall Dmitri called it the "Buran"; it was some other reference lost to memory that called it the "Snowflake"... I always ASS-U-MEd Buran == Snowflake... -dq

24 years, 1 month

HP-1000E PSU

by fmc＠reanimators.org

ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk (Tony Duell) wrote: > > > Looks like the installer is expected to adjust the power supply with it > > > installed in the computer. Test points are on the crossover assembly > > HP were fond of suggesting that you do this :-(, even on machines where Yes, this was not my idea. I spent some time staring at the manual convincing myself that there were no directions for testing the power supply with a less expensive load. I suspect HP's thought was that they would probably have the service contract, and if the power supply was going to fail in a way that fried other stuff then it would have already fried the other stuff by the time the service call was placed, and the CE would have those boards in his kit too. > Incidentally, am I the only person who finds the faultfinding flowcharts > (like the ones that HP published in a lot of their service manuals) to be > fairly useless? You know the ones that say > 'Is there a clock at pin 3 of U5 > Yes : Is there a high level at .... > No : Replace U5, X1, C1, C2 in order.' It looks vaguely useful for people like me: a programmer with soldering iron type who appears to have a read-only mind w/r/t the more interesting bits of electronics. At least it would get me to a board that I could then try to trace out and ask questions about. That's why I pointed rdd through the first couple of bits -- they will tell whether the power supply is alive at all and whether the fundamental adjustment has any effect. Unfortunately I don't think I have schematics for 1000s or 21MXs. Well, not complete ones. Tonight I picked up the 21MX E-series Installation and Service Manual instead of the 1000 E-series one. Guess what, it's got appendices, including Appendix B with schematics for the operator panel, 16K memory module, 8K memory module, and 4K memory module. Not the power supply though. Hmm, on the other hand I'm not sure it would matter, it looks like the power supply is different in the 21MX -- instead of board with daughterboards, it's got an upper and a lower board. Guess the difference is deeper than the front panel silk-screening. -Frank McConnell

24 years, 1 month

Review of Apple Confidential: The Real Story of Apple Computer, Inc.

by vcf＠siconic.com

I've posted a review of Apple Confidential: The Real Story of Apple Computer, Inc., to the VCF website. http://www.vintage.org/cgi-bin/content.pl?id=003 It's a good book and I highly recommend it, especially if you're an Apple fan. Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a six in a pile of nines... Coming soon: VCF 4.0! VCF East: Planning in Progress See http://www.vintage.org for details!

24 years, 1 month

More Stuff

by foo＠siconic.com

More from the same issue of Computers & Electronics (Nov/82). Has anyone ever heard of this machine? Introducing a Brand New Microcomputer: Venture VENTURE is a single board computer that is an adventure for the hobbyist. It is a learning training computer as well as just plain fun for anyone who wants to get into a state-of-the-art computer at reasonable cost. VENTURE comes in kit form or fully assembled and tested. You can get it in its minimum configuration for as little as $195.00 or take it all the way to floppy disks and voice. It can be expanded as a kit or fully assembled, at your own pace and choice. VENTURE is a 16" by 20" main board with separate ASCII and HEX keyboards. It runs fast, almost 4 MHz and has the capability of putting 1.5 megabytes of RAM and ROM on the board along with a variety of inexpensive options. On Board Options: 16 channel A to D; 5 slot 60 pin bus, 2 serial ports, parallel ports; 4 video options incl. color, 52K RAM, Votrax voice synthesizer, sound generator, EPROM; Full Basic, disassembler, editor, assembler; metal cabinet, additional power supply, ASCII keyboard, real time clock calendar. Expansion Options: Floppy Disc, EPROM Programmer, light pen, universal user programmable music, sound board, high resolution color/grayscale pixel mapped video board, General Purpose Instrument Bus, 8088 co-processor board. Minimum VENTURE System: $195.00 Kit includes CPU and control with 4K of RAM, 1K of scratchpad, 2K monitor, 1861 video graphics, cassette interface and separate HEX keyboard with LED displays for address and output. Power supply is included along with 2 game cassettes, The main board is 16" x 20" and includes space for all of the previously dicussed on-board options. Full on-board expansion can be completed for under $1000.00. I want one! The ad is from Quest Electronics in Santa Clara, CA. They also sold kits for the RCA Cosmac 1802 Super Elf, the Rockwell AIM 65, as well as a modem kit, a Z80 Microcomputer kit, and various ICs and such. The ads in the back (the low budget ones) have an even neater array of single board computers being sold by what would seem to be hobbyists trying to sell their creations in the commercial arena. There's an ad for a 68000-based singleboard, a port expander module for the HP-41, plus various add-ons for various computers of the day (Sinclair, Atari, TRS-80, etc). Finally, there's a small add for a IBM Selectric-to-computer adaptor to use the typewriter as a printer. Anyone ever hear of Synchro-Sette magazine (for the Sinclair ZX-81, TS-1000)? Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a six in a pile of nines... Coming soon: VCF 4.0! VCF East: Planning in Progress See http://www.vintage.org for details!

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