If you can't find anything by next weekend contact me off list. I have a
couple Qniverters at home with the docs. I can't recall the # offhand but I
know they were used from a Qbus host to Unibus backplane.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Oliviero <oliv555(a)arrl.net>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Sunday, May 28, 2000 9:24 PM
Subject: Q-to-U translations
>Anyone on list familiar with the various Qbus/Unibus convertors
>that can help with this problem? Actually two, I'm trying to connect
>one Unibus expansion chassis to a Qbus host, PDP11/83. I've
>another Unibus chassis which I'd like to mate with a mVAX4100.
>
>I have the DEC M8217 and Able 10340 convertors but have not
>been able to find any documentation on either. Would either of
>these work or do I require a different product. I know Able made
>at least 4 of these variants. Able has not been very helpful in the
>past,
>general response going something like ...... we have a manual
>that may answer your question, its only $100..........
>
>It just occured to me, I think the Able boards were meant to be
>plugged to the Qbus side, my situation requires a Unibus board,
>at least in the case of the 4100 project.
>
>Also, my 4100 manual completely glosses over its Qbus capability.
>Anyone know the p/n and or pinouts for the 4100 Qbus cable?
>
>Thanks in advance for any suggestions
>
> Nick
On May 28, John Rollins wrote:
> What fun! I got a book called "VAX-11 Assembly Language Programming."
> What's a VAX-11?
The first few VAXen were the VAX-11 family. The first was the
VAX-11/780, then (in no particular order) the VAX-11/750, the /730,
/725, /782, and /785.
Of course I'm assuming you know what a VAX is in the more generic
sense...
-Dave McGuire
>It's the APPS and the moving Win32s target they tried to support.
>The killer was when MS made Office not run under OS/2.
May have hurt the market but, no great loss. MS Office is another plague
on the world.
>OS/2 was slow -- glacial on the early 386's without a LOT of memory
>16meg was VERY rare then). IBM used it internally (v2.11) on PS/2 25's
>with 12-16mb. It was slow loading and glacial loading apps. Many
>secretaries booted it with all their windows apps loaded so they didn't
>have to wait for programs to load. They often ran Ami Pro v3.1 under
win3.1
>since the Lotus Smartsuite was BEHIND the windows version for features.
As a Win3.1 user it was no better on 386s and really didn't run usefully
with
less than 4mb and really wanted 8mb to behave well.
>I'd bet they're switching to WinNT or Win9x (laptops) and going to
>Microsoft Word for customer compatibility in a lot of cases. We were
Win9x is a mess but can be made to work, WinNT4/workstation is better
but you MUST be at SP4 or higher. It's the MS apps that are a pox on the
world. ;-)
Allison
Anyone on list familiar with the various Qbus/Unibus convertors
that can help with this problem? Actually two, I'm trying to connect
one Unibus expansion chassis to a Qbus host, PDP11/83. I've
another Unibus chassis which I'd like to mate with a mVAX4100.
I have the DEC M8217 and Able 10340 convertors but have not
been able to find any documentation on either. Would either of
these work or do I require a different product. I know Able made
at least 4 of these variants. Able has not been very helpful in the
past,
general response going something like ...... we have a manual
that may answer your question, its only $100..........
It just occured to me, I think the Able boards were meant to be
plugged to the Qbus side, my situation requires a Unibus board,
at least in the case of the 4100 project.
Also, my 4100 manual completely glosses over its Qbus capability.
Anyone know the p/n and or pinouts for the 4100 Qbus cable?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions
Nick
Hi,
I have several Sun Type 4 and Type 5 keyboards.
Since I don't currently have any Sun hardware to test these with, I cannot say
for sure whether they work. However they are in good physical condition, and
I'll give a refund if they are DOA.
Is 5 pounds each too much to ask for this sort of thing?
-- Mark
In a message dated 5/26/00 11:26:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
allisonp(a)world.std.com writes:
> As I happen to have an IBM OS/2 warp V3 kit with bonus pak it makes me
> want to play again with it. I did in the last outing try installing it and
> it went well
> but I found the interface feeling a bit strange. It sounds like it has
> attributes
> that would make it ideal for smaller 486s and any 386s with enough ram
> but unlike some that want Multimedia I'd want IP (eithernet) networking.
i love os/2's WPS! if i could find a os/2 type shell for linux, i'd switch in
a minute. if you want networking, go get warp connect. i've been told that
it's been tweaked a little after warp 3.0 came out. i have it running on a
PS/2 server 95 with 48meg with scsi and i get full multimedia and can connect
to my isp and my other machines. if DSL ever gets around here, i will use it
to host my site.
DB Young Team OS/2
hurry, hurry, step right up! see the computers you used as a kid!
http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm
John Wilson wrote:
>Aren't there two different DEC logos anyway? A few years ago when they
>decided it should be magenta and the colors should be fixed regardless of
>what the logo is printed on top of, I thought they claimed that they were
>slightly reshaping the characters too. I can't see the difference but
>that doesn't mean it's not there... Or am I remembering wrong?
I don't think there ever was "a font". I'm pretty sure they just drew
the letters they needed, and in some cases they don't even match on the
same nameplate. Most of the simple characters are purely line segments
and constant-radius arcs, there are obviously some exceptions (the letter
"a" in the "|d|i|g|i|t|a|l|", for example, in one font.)
You can actually see *three* different - but similar - logo fonts in use on
some manuals and equipment. For instance, the purple-and-magenta
PDP-11 nameplates (the kind that go on top of a H960, for instance) have
the top "|d|i|g|i|t|a|l|" in a fairly traditional (but a bit simplistic)
Helvetica-ish font, while the bottom "digital equipment corporation,
maynard, massachussets" is in a font that's more like hand printing, with
some quirky lilts (like the way the top part of the "e" extends way to
the right.)
Then the font used for "decsystem" or "pdp11" is yet a third variation
if it appears on the logo plate. The numerals are done in a particularly
funky manner.
My conclusion is that they just had a draftsman draw the letters as needed,
without any real font steering committee :-).
--
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In a message dated 5/25/00 5:03:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
wilson(a)dbit.dbit.com writes:
> On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 03:56:22PM -0400, Bill Pechter wrote:
> > And DEC unloads the PDP11 to Mentec and OS/2 gets killed.
>
> Last I heard OS/2 was still very much alive, although IBM's attitude
> towards it is surly to say the least. But unlike some companies I could
> mention, IBM knows better than to refuse to accept money from their
> customers
> just because the customers want to buy something other than whatever new
> toy the IBM management is excited about this week. So it will probably
> keep getting *some* support as long as the customers are willing to pay
> for it.
>
> John Wilson
> D Bit
there will be an OS2 version update later this year (4.5?) which will offer
usb support amongst other things. recently fixpak 13 was announced. of
course, downloading it all and installing it is a major task in itself.
DB Young ICQ: 29427634
hurry, hurry, step right up! see the computers you used as a kid!
http://members.aol.com/suprdave/classiccmp/museum.htm
I've got a strange question for former DIGITAL employees out there.
It's not likely anyone will be able to answer, but it never hurts
to ask.
Does anyone know what font was used for the DIGITAL logo? I've never
been able to find its exact match, and I'm wondering if anyone had
any contact with the Corporate Identity people and might remember.
(Kind of a long shot, I know)
Thanks,
-Seth
--
"As a general rule, the man in the habit of murdering | Seth Morabito
bookbinders, though he performs a distinct service | sethm(a)loomcom.com
to society, only wastes his own time and takes no |
personal advantage." -- Kenneth Grahame (1898) | Perth ==> *
Target put a multipage color catalog in last Sunday's paper. The catalog
combines full-page photos of people using outdoor toys (bicycles, snorkels,
tents, etc.) with photos of the toys against garish solid-color backgrounds.
Although the effect is rather unsettling (Life magazine meets Wired?) the
strangest part is the image of *six-hole paper tape* that marches across
the middles of all the pages. Obviously old computers have some sort of hold
on our culture, though it could just be as an abstract design cliche.
I haven't yet decoded the tape (if it says anyhthing at all). Luckily I
just got _Computers and Typesetting_ which covers plenty of obscure
typesetting codes (which is the only area I know of in which six-hole tape
ever became popular).
For non-US people: Target is a large "buy everything here" store, fancier
than K Mart or Wal-Mart but still rather cheap. My mom sarcastically called
it "Tar-ZHAY", as in the French pronounciation, for a while. :)
-- Derek
