--- Frank McConnell <fmc(a)reanimators.org> wrote:
> Ron Hudson <rhudson(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Does anyone still sell s100 based computers?
> > Aren't they used still for process controll and automation?
>
> Some years ago (1994 or 1995 I think) someone posted an article to
> alt.folklore.computers about a manufacturer of voting machines who was
> still building their own S-100-based design for use in that
> application. Sorry, I didn't save a copy of the article.
The Center of Science and Industry (COSI) in Columbus has a corner of their
new building set aside as a tribute to the old museum (c. 1964 - 1999). Part
of it is a kiosk with the original computer equipment performing the original
tasks for which they were programmed - a C-64 running a lemonaide stand
simulation (c. 1983) and an S-100 box running a crime survey (c. 1979).
In the old museum, these used to sit outside the "CIVIC" room, a DECSystem 2020
attached to the Compu$erve network providing computing services for non-profit
organizations (The DEC-20 was decomissioned and reclaimed by CI$ many, many
years ago).
-ethan
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Hi,
Just thought I would say that if someone does get the TK70 from Don, I have
the controller (Qbus) available.. Can't guarantee that it works and I don't
have the cable, but it's better than nothing!
Will J
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One of the most amazing things I've witnessed in the computer evolution
is the growth, and death, of busses. Some, like Q-bus and S-100 are
pretty simple, others like SBus and the switching fabric that
constitutes the SparcServer 490 are much more complex.
When asked once why I prefer the Q-bus 11's and Vaxen my answer is
always because I can get lots of I/O to do neat things for those busses.
(I'm writing a program for the PDP-8 to control an LED sign using a
couple of 12bit parallel i/o cards. )
But the trend in PC's has gone to fewer and fewer "slots" and soon will
be no slots. I thought that the bus was dead until I realized that USB
has the same bandwidth as Q-bus and FireWire has much better bandwidth.
So presumably we'll see some interesting I/O devices that use these
busses in the future.
--Chuck
Hey now, I can personally vouch that you did indeed get the Interdata
7/32... ;p The real truth is that you can find anything, provided you look
hard enough... Hell, the way I got my 3 Interdata 7/32s (well now 2), 2
Perkin-Elmer 3203's, P-E 3205, and 3 P-E 3210's was by doing a search in
excite for "interdata 7/32 minicomputer" and lo! I came across an ad (barely
3 hours old) saying "We've got all this stuff for free, if you want it, its
yours, just pay shipping, else its scrapped." So I got it. End of story. No
Ebaying involved... though half the people who pay stupid prices for say
common 11/35's wouldn't know what a 7/32 was if it hit them on the head... I
got a Sperry-Univac COBOL training course at a used bookstore... and I got
the FEP software for a DECsystem-10/20 at a thrift store for $6. Hell I got
my Nova 1210 by posting a "I want old computers" message in the newsgroup
co.ads... my point is, if you want it, look harder! I'm not trying to brag,
I'm only giving examples... I haven't even been collecting computers for a
year yet. But for god's sake, try harder! If I wasn't a year late I would
have manuals/software/schematics for my Varian.. but he pitched them.. if I
was only one month sooner I would have the disk + tape drives for my
Honeywell AND all the manuals + software... So get out there and SAVE the
stuff!
Will J
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Ron Hudson <rhudson(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Does anyone still sell s100 based computers?
> Aren't they used still for process controll and automation?
Some years ago (1994 or 1995 I think) someone posted an article to
alt.folklore.computers about a manufacturer of voting machines who was
still building their own S-100-based design for use in that
application. Sorry, I didn't save a copy of the article.
-Frank McConnell
John Wilson wrote:
>I seriously think eBay is likely to trigger some kind of 12-step program
>for auction junkies. Really, it's a bit like gambling, people get really
>competitive sometimes and end up paying prices that have nothing to do with
>anyone's concept of what the item is worth, just because they feel that they
>need to win at any cost.
Sure, that's the "auction fever" that E-bay has been so good at tapping
into.
There is one very simple rule to follow at any auction: know what you're
willing to pay at the start, and never go over it. And it's actually easy,
with E-bay's Proxy Bidding, to do this on E-bay by simply bidding your
highest amount early on. No more worry about someone outbidding you by
'sniping' at the end!
Of course, whenever I mention this strategy I get flamed horribly by
"E-bay experts" at how awful it is. How they tried it once and got outbid
by $1 and lost. Or how it drives up prices for all buyers. I don't agree,
E-bay provides you with a powerful tool - proxy bidding - and you should
use it to its full advantage. Getting caught up in the frenzy is the
sure way to lose in the big picture (though you may "win" the auction),
because you end up paying more than you wanted to.
Tim.
When it comes to transferring data between mutually incompatible systems,
nothing can compare with putting a box full of solenoids on the keyboard!
At one time their primary market was as a way to convert a perfectly good
typewriter into a ridiculous printer. There were two main contenders: the
Rochester Dynatyper (which had a dual board for connecting to the bus of
Apple ][ and TRS-80 I/III), and the KGS-80 (which cabled to an ordinary
Centronics port)
I'm ready to part with my KGS-80. I got it used about 15 years ago, and
used it once for exercising sticking keys on a keyboard, and once for
transferring a 100 pages of manuscript from a TRS-80 into a Merganthaler
typesetting machine.
This is THE device that will transfer files to ANYTHING. IF you can stop
laughing.
Best offer.
Help prevent it ending up on e-bay!
--
Fred Cisin cisin(a)xenosoft.com
XenoSoft http://www.xenosoft.com
2210 Sixth St. (510) 644-9366
Berkeley, CA 94710-2219
In a message dated Mon, 8 May 2000 00:27:26 -0400 (EDT), Sean 'Captain
Napalm' Conner" <spc(a)armigeron.com> writes:
<< Again, to bring this back on topic, there have been plenty of operating
systems distributed in ROM---AmigaOS, QNX, OS-9 and the original MacOS were
all contained in ROM, were/are ROMmable and extensible. And all are older
than 10 years old. Even MS-DOS came in ROM format for some computers
(although I'm not sure if it ran out of ROM, or was copied to RAM before
running). >>
The Mac OS has never been fully contained in ROM. Starting with the Lisa in
1983 and the original Mac in 1984, Apple used a 64k ROM that contained GUI
program routines (the Macintosh ToolKit). These machines still had to boot a
floppy which made calls to the ROM.
Best,
David Greelish
Publisher
Classic Computing Press
www.classiccomputing.com
Dick:
EDWin has the ability to build components and symbols. It also has
the ability to embed a BMP file. So, I was hoping that someone had a
registration mark in a popular graphics format for me to embed without
having to go through the trouble of building a symbol.
I have a copyright legend in the component side copper and
"component side" text in the silk screen.
Rich
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Richard A. Cini, Jr.
Congress Financial Corporation
1133 Avenue of the Americas
30th Floor
New York, NY 10036
(212) 545-4402
(212) 840-6259 (facsimile)
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Erlacher [mailto:richard@idcomm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 11:41 AM
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Bitmaps - PCB registration
The packages I've used (2 versons of OrCAD and EAGLE) seem not only to
provide registration targets, but certainly provide sufficient utility to
build such a symbol if it didn't already exist. Have you considered making
your own registration target?
If you do build it, be certain it's different from one side of each layer to
the other. If you include a bit of text, i.e. a layer identifier in your
registration target, that will help quite a bit. You may also want such an
identifier separate from the target, so you can be certain all the layers
are present when you look at a registered set of layer overlays. It must be
obvious which is which, however, as it's easy to reverse a layer if you have
both reversed text and "right-way-around" text in the copper.
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: Cini, Richard <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com>
To: 'ClassCompList' <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 9:16 AM
Subject: Bitmaps - PCB registration
> Hello, all:
>
> I'm continuing work on My6502 SBC, working towards producing a
> working PCB. I wanted to put registration marks on the artwork, but EDWin
> CAD does not appear to have built-in registration mark graphics.
>
> I did a search for electronics clipart, but the 11 sites had nothing
> useful.
>
> Does anyone have any useful registration bitmaps they can send me?
>
> Rich
>
> ==========================
> Richard A. Cini, Jr.
> Congress Financial Corporation
> 1133 Avenue of the Americas
> 30th Floor
> New York, NY 10036
> (212) 545-4402
> (212) 840-6259 (facsimile)
>
