test-drb May 2000

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by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

Hi, I was helping to sort a load of surplus test equipment yesterday and found a couyple of DEC computers. Since I'm not a DEC head I don't know anything about them so can someone tell me more about them and if they're worth rescueing. The first is a DEC Por 350, there are two of them. The other is is a Micro PDP 11/73. Both are roughly the size of a large tower case for a PC. There's also a VAX 11/785 there but it's huge! Joe

25 years, 1 month

Hmm, while we're HPing, how bout HP-125?

by Innfogra＠aol.com

In a message dated 5/12/2000 11:45:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, donm(a)cts.com writes: > > I have a pair of HP-125's, but no software or manuals or the external > floppy > > drives they seem to come with.. have the printer though, and some HP-IB > > cables.. Anyone have stuff for em? PS, those are some of the WEIRDEST > > looking machines I've ever seen!!! > > That is the CP/M model, is it not Will? If so, I have the following: > > Name Format Description > 12x-SYS DSDD HP 12x series (120/125) CP/M 2.2 system disk > 12x-UTIL DSDD HP 12x series utilities > 12x-TUT DSDD HP 12x series Computer Tutor > 12x-WS DSDD HP 12x series Wordstar 3.0 > 12x-WORD DSDD HP 12x series The Word+ > 12x-COND DSDD HP 12x series Condor 20 dbms > 12x-VISI DSDD HP 12x series Visicalc > 12x-GRPH DSDD HP 12x series Graphics > 12x-DLNK DSDD HP 12x series to host comm programs > > - don > Don; Are these 8" disks, 5 1/4" disks or 3 1/2" disks? I think I have some 5 1/4" HP HPIB disk drives that I think work on the 125s & 120s. I also have a 120 somewhere. I used to have a 125 and it is the CPM machine on a strange pedestal. They came in two heights. IIRC the 125 had a larger parallel Centronics type connector to hook up to 5 1/4" & 8" drives. Some of my disk drives have a dual plug set up, HPIB and this larger Centronics type connector. I am sure I don't have the large cable though. I have lots of HPIB cables. Paxton

25 years, 1 month

RT11 Pocket Guide Claimed

by kyrrin＠bluefeathertech.com

Mark Honeycutt's E-mail had the earliest timestamp of three I received, so he's the lucky(?) recipient of the RT11 pocket guide I had advertised. For the record, John Allain's came in second, and Emanuel Stiebler third. Guys, I wish I had enough to go around, but thanks for your interest in any case. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner/Head Honcho, Blue Feather Technologies (www.bluefeathertech.com) kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "SCSI Users, Unite! Beware the IDEs of March!"

25 years, 1 month

DEC stuff, pictures

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

25 years, 2 months

Hmm, while we're HPing, how bout HP-125?

by xds_sigma7＠hotmail.com

Hi, I have a pair of HP-125's, but no software or manuals or the external floppy drives they seem to come with.. have the printer though, and some HP-IB cables.. Anyone have stuff for em? PS, those are some of the WEIRDEST looking machines I've ever seen!!! Will J ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

25 years, 2 months

Couple of cool HP 110/150 finds

by fmc＠reanimators.org

"Ernest" <ernestls(a)home.com> wrote: > By the way, I found a new disk for the 150 Touchscreen: > > Advance Link Master#3 (45431-13003) A.01.01 2435 > Upload A.01.02 > Monitor 3000 A.02.04 > > Are you familiar with this bit of software? I'm assuming that it's comm > software for linking a 110/110+ to the 150 but I'm not sure. No, it's comm software for linking a 150 to an HP3000. AdvanceLink is an HP terminal emulator of sorts (let's face it, most of the terminal emulation is in the 150's firmware) with a so-so scripting language and upload/download capabilities. It came on more than one disk, I think that is disk 3 of the set, and I think it's got the stuff for uploading the HP3000 side of the file-transfer software to the 3000. > I also picked up a 110+ with some manuals but no software. I'm not sure if > there even was software for the 110 series, since they're ROM based systems. A little bit, plus you could use some of the generic MS-DOS software that was suitable for the 150s on the 110 and Portable Plus. Once upon a time, I was doing Pascal compilations on a 110 using the Microsoft Pascal compiler on 150-format stiffies. (It wasn't a very fast development system.) -Frank McConnell

25 years, 2 months

150-format stiffies?

by fmc＠reanimators.org

technoid(a)cheta.net wrote: > I know what a conventional 'stiffy' is but my definition is WAY off > topic... ;-) > What is a stiffy in your context of 150 format? Consider an 8-inch diskette. See how it's flexible, and bends when you hold it by a corner and let it hang out horizontally? That's why we call it a floppy disk. Now, compare and contrast the typical 3.5" medium, of which most HP150 diskettes are examples. Kind of stiff by comparison, isn't it? -Frank McConnell

25 years, 2 months

QuickC libs

by cem14＠cornell.edu

Hi all; I seem to have misplaced my installation disks for QuickC 2.0, and the computer where it is installed is missing the large model LLIBCE.LIB, LLIBC.LIB and LLIBFP.LIB libraries, which I need to be able to use my 82335 HPIB card with QuickC. Is there any kind soul out there who could provide me a copy while I find the diskettes? TIA, Carlos. -- Carlos Murillo-Sanchez email: cem14(a)cornell.edu 428 Phillips Hall, Electrical Engineering Department Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853

25 years, 2 months

Printing Infocom Transcripts from 8-bitters (was Re: KIM Manual / Selectric)

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- technoid(a)cheta.net wrote:> Back in the olden days of microcomputers a printer of any type cost a> bundle...Oh, yeah.> ...I think the most interesting one was a board> with a bank of solenoids mounted on it which faced the keyboard of the> typewriter.Because my mother had the typewriter, I wanted that device so bad. I justcouldn't afford it as a teenager.> Neither the WE teletype nor the EP22 would allow me to print my Hitchhiker's> Guide or Zork sessions as these games were 'boot' games with thier own dos.> Since the Atari 8-bit did not have a resident Serial printer handler, I could> not print from an Infocom game.By the time I could afford a printer, I had a Commodore-64 to drive it. Theprinter was an ancient Centronics that had two print heads - one for columns1 through 80 and another for 81 through 132. It had a genuine Centronicsinterface, of course. I built a cable for the user port and wrote a handlerthat fit in the cassette buffer and wedged in the OS routine for CHROUT. Istill have some Infocom transcripts from that printer as well as some ScottAdams disassembly from a game ripper I wrote in BASIC.I used to customize my Infocom environment in several ways before playingthe older games - I would load the PET font (captured by moving the characterROM to a regular expansion socket and typing the save command blind into TIM,the PET's ROM-based machine language monitor), change the color to green onblack and load my parallel printer driver before starting a session.I was such an Infocom afficianado that I eventually disassembled the oldest(and simplest) version of the C-64 ZIP (Zork Implementation Program, thegame engine) and have recompiled it to work on the VIC-20 (with enough RAM)and the BASIC 2.0 PET (I haven't gone back to find which zero-page locationsare getting stomped by the CHROUT routine in the kernal in BASIC 4.0).As an avid fan, it was a blast beta-testing "Return To Zork". It wasn't agreat game, but the coolest part was watching my bug reports turn intodetectable improvements in the game. I also pitched Infocom about portingRtZ to the Amiga, but it never happened. I got the underlying engine workingas a demonstration (text only, no graphics), but the project was cancelled dueto lack of expected financial reward.Needless to say, I've spent many an hour playing and writing adventures. Printing... oh, yeah... this post started off about printing... yeah,that, too. :-)-ethan Even though my old e-mail address is no longer going to vanish, please note my new public address: erd(a)iname.com The original webpage address is still going away. The permanent home is: http://penguincentral.com/ See http://ohio.voyager.net/ for details. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger.

25 years, 2 months

Keyboard actuator

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 01:08 PM 5/10/00 -0700, Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) wrote: >This is THE device that will transfer files to ANYTHING. IF you can stop >laughing. Sounds like fun. How could it come close to hitting any key on any keyboard? Are the solenoids positionable? Certainly in some situations, a parallel-to-serial conversion box could capture the bitstream from an archaic computer. That route would have the benefit of a buffer in most cases. Does this gizmo have a buffer? As such, it would be most useful for getting data *into* a system that didn't have a way to import an ordinary text file. You could even write filters to massage the stream in order to hit weird key sequences to reformat the text. - John

25 years, 2 months

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