>Ok, so does the hobbyiest license include a license to run DECnet? I tried
>running NETCONFIG and it complained that I didn't have a license for DECnet
>and I looked at the layered products and didn't see one in that list
either.
Yes it's included but did you load it?
Allison
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From: "Efton Collins" <ecollins(a)outstart.com>
To: <PUPS(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au>
Subject: SCO site has Unix for download
Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 01:46:34 -0400
Hey,
You may have seen it already, but I haven't seen an announcement on the
PUPS list -
SCO has got Unix 5th, 6th and 7th Editions, Mini Unix, System III and 32V
available on their site for download. You can access them by going to
www.sco.com/offers/ancient.html and accepting the license.
Congratulations PUPS, this is a milestone.
Efton
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Stephen Hawkin was on Larry King last night. Quite the remarkable fellow. They also clipped in a shot of Cosmos, the computer being used in today's quantum cunstructions on the theory of everything. Carl Sagan was a god of mine, so I just wanted to call dibs on ole Cosmos when she's decommissioned. ;)
Anyone have any specs on the machine?
;)
Mike: dogas(a)leading.net
>Ok, I've confirmed that you can in fact reproduce the VMS Consolidated
>distribution using a suitably equipped machine with a CD-R drive. Now, one
>question I have is what is "NAS" ? There are 12 disks of layered products,
>one OS disk, one supplementary products disk, and two NAS disks. What
>is/was NAS?
I forget what NAS was originally supposed to stand for, but it
consists of the "basic necessities" for modern operation. Workstation
NAS is a package consisting of DECWindows/Motif, DECNET, TCP/IP, some
network printing stuff, and a VMScluster license. Server NAS is a
package consisting of the above plus Pathworks, Volume Shadowing, and
a few other things. The exact "other things" depends on the exact NAS
package (there higher the number, the more extra stuff - the numbers
I'm familiar with are 150, 250, and 400.)
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Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
Its very close ('92-93) to ten years old, but I'll be brief - anybody
know of a use for some Proxim RangeLAN/ISA cards and a still-new-in-box
RangeLAN/PCMCIA kit? Please reply to me offline.
Bill
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Here's a chap in Cambridge, UK, who's got an Osborne portable that needs a
new home. I don't know if it's an original portable or not. The original
portable has a tan case. The newer version has a grey & blue case. The
Osborne Executive (pretty much similar to the Osborne 1 but with some
improvements) has a grey & black case. Please contact the original sender
directly to inquire.
Reply-to: ILygo(a)aol.com
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Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 13:05:51 EDT
From: ILygo(a)aol.com
Subject: Donate old computer gear....
Donate Your Old Computer Stuff to the Vintage Technology Cooperative Resource
Center
I found your web site for the VCF and noted the above section. I have an
Osborne portable CPM computer with CPM software, Word Supercalc 1 etc.
I do not want to dump it as it got me started in this great but sometimes
frustrating business of computing (I currently contract using Lotus Domino to
build Knowledge Management systems and intranets).
The snag is I am in the UK (near Cambridge).
Ian Lygo
Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger
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Looking for a six in a pile of nines...
Coming soon: VCF 4.0!
VCF East: Planning in Progress
See http://www.vintage.org for details!
Ok, I've confirmed that you can in fact reproduce the VMS Consolidated
distribution using a suitably equipped machine with a CD-R drive. Now, one
question I have is what is "NAS" ? There are 12 disks of layered products,
one OS disk, one supplementary products disk, and two NAS disks. What
is/was NAS?
--Chuck
Well, upon thinking about it some more it finally struck me why I really
hate eBay.
Before eBay I was able to build a fairly significantly collection through
a lot of hard work. This included a lot of searching, a lot of walking, a
lot of driving, a lot of bargaining, lot of hauling, some sweat, some
blood, perhaps a few tears, etc. Through all this hard work I was able to
amass a very nice collection of historical computer artifacts. It took
some money as well, but the journey was the reward as they say.
After eBay came it along, anybody with a little money (or rather a
considerable amount of money in most cases) could amass a collection to
perhaps rival mine without any of the hard work: without the journey.
I guess it's typical human resentment. I resent the fact that my hard
work could be equaled by a large number of dollars. I feel that a
collection that can be bought so easily can not really be a collection in
the sense that mine is, but something else entirely.
But what really do I have to be resentful about? I've had the journey,
which is something money can't buy. I have the harrowing stories to tell
and the stories of those whom I've acquired the artifacts from. You can't
get that from eBay (unless you can somehow dramatically depict the act of
picking up a package from your porch).
So behind all my anti-eBay rants, what I'm saying is, this hobby is much
more rewarding when there has been work involved in creating your
collection. It's kinda like the difference between actually going
out and hunting for your meat as opposed to just picking it off atop your
horse after having it herded towards you.
Remember, you're not just creating a collection, you're recording a story.
So there you have it. My true feelings on the matter. It's like Being
Sellam Ismail (only better because you get to go back being you now ;)
>If that fails, then you can try opening the HDA (screws on top) and
>freeing the head by hand. Needless to say this should really be done in a
>clean room, but you can _often_ get away with doing it in a normal room
>if you keep the dust down (obviously, don't smoke, and keep the cat out
>of the way :-)).
Hints for those that have to resort to this.
First clean the outside well, use compressed air and a damp rag to wipe it.
This gets rid of local dust Wipe the area too. then wash hands, you laugh!
Washing the hands gets rid of oils and dust that and all.
Now, you can open the cover, use clean tools as well. once the cover is
loose you can get inside. To do this part the drive needs to be powered
as it's not safe to move the heads with the platter not rotating. Control
cables are not needed, just power. Power up and observe the platters
and heads, likely you will see spin up but, no head movement. If this is
the case with the patters spinning give the head arm a push, if thing go
well it will sweep the full travel then home in on track 0000. Now the
drive
can be covered. For the brave used to fine work a liitle plastic (clear
packing tape) over the offending bumper will prevent this from happening
again. hopefully the rescued drive has no other problems and an OS.
If the head will not move the head lock (under the HDA and controboards
on the bottom may be stuck. if it is put the cover on flip it over and
remove
the solenoid (it will run fine without it, never ship it though!). Retry
the spinup.
I've done this on several drives, all of which I still use. What makes
this work
is the basic design and physics. Spin those platters at 3600 rpm and
landing on them heads for the walls. Since there is rotation there is a
basic
airflow pattern that insures and dust in side gets picked up. Fingerprints
on
the platter are bad though but I've never had a crashed one, though I did
take
one with other bad problems and try a few things. Oh, it took writing on
the
platter with pencil to make the head crash. ;)
Anywho I've found this drive has two problems, heat and heat. The bumper
problem is heat related. So if you keep the drive cool it does seem to last
many years. this is true for a lot of the older drives.
Keep them fans goin.
Allison
