>Hi, I'm Doug and I collect AOL disks. Well, not really, but I do have
>*one*. AOL actually produced a disk that was labeled "collector's
>edition". I found it so funny that I saved it -- sort of a self-fulfilling
I use AOL, Earthlink and CS cdroms for things like IE4.01 as
cdrom and there are other items buried on them like patches and
infamous SPn kits from MS with security fixes. I don't however
collect them as collectables and teh excess are cut up as sun
> From: healyzh(a)aracnet.com
> To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: AOL Disks Collectable
> Date: Thursday, April 27, 2000 09:01 PM
> Someone mind explaining what possible reason *ANYONE* could have for
> to collect AOL disks!
I actually do have a set of AOL disks I am keeping. It installs the old
GeoWorks desktop instead of using Windows. I do not know if I will ever
use them, though.
Paul R. Santa-Maria
Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
Hi. I've recently acquired an original Macintosh Portable, without any of
the accompanying paraphenalia, most notably the AC adapter. I'm currently
hunting for a PowerBook 1xx adapter, which I'm told is usable with the
Portable, but in the meantime, I'm looking for other ways to fire up this
new Mac to check it out.
According to the specs, the Portable AC adapter is 1.5 amps at 7.5 volts,
I have one of those "universal" AC adapters that can do 7.5 V, but only 300
mA. If I plug in this adapter to the Portable, will the internal battery
eventually obtain a usable charge (assuming it's not totally dead, as so
Any suggestions gratefully received.
I have an Apple II with a Z80 card, and lots of CP/M disks for it but I'm
having a problem opening the .ASM and .BAS files. I thumbed through a book
on both Mbasic and CP/M but neither of these books clearly describe how to
work with these files.
The Mbasic books says to open Mbasic, and at the "OK" prompt type RUN
"B:MAINT.BAS" (for example)but when I do that, it gives me a "Direct
Statement in file" message, and then it goes back to the "OK" prompt.
I don't have a clue how to work with the .ASM files -like SUPRTRK3.ASM or
BLKFRI2.ASM. I can see that they are games by typing TYPE SUPRTRK3.ASM but
the text flies by so fast that I can't see much else.
I have a lot of disks that have nothing but .BAS and .ASM files so any help
that you can give me would be appreciated.
Also, I have one disk that has a single large file called PILOTA.LST. What
do I do with that?
Thanks for your help.
>> That is, DIR <...> ?
>Can I be curious? I left off I think (1988) before angle brackets
>came in to existence, or at least in use at my office.
They're compatible with the more conventional "[" and "]" brackets for
specifying directories in VMS. The general concensus seems to be that they
were put in so folks migrating from TOPS-20 (where angle brackets are the
standard way of specifying directories) would be more comfortable.
Rumor has it that Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) may have mentioned these words:
>Why collect AOL disks?
>Because, at least for the older ones before they switched to CD, they are
>easier to reformat than beenie babies or Pokemon cards.
I don't think so... I can reformat beenie babies & Pokemon cards *very*
easily! You just need the right equipment. Come to think of it, I can
even reformat AOL CD's with the same equipment!
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
 The right equipment in this case being a Chainsaw... ;-)
Roger "Merch" Merchberger --- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
Recycling is good, right??? Ok, so I'll recycle an old .sig.
If at first you don't succeed, nuclear warhead
disarmament should *not* be your first career choice.
At 09:54 AM 4/28/00 -0700, you wrote:
>A few days ago, I walked into a no-name rummage shop, on Pine and Summit in
>Seattle, and found a large Gene Sequencer, with attached teletype, ...
> ... like from the late sixties-early seventies (just a guess.)
The interesting thing for this list is that often times there is a classic
computer "buried" inside these things. If its late sixties it could be a
PDP-8, if it is early 70s it could be a PDP-11. Or a Honeywell 160, etc
etc. Why not go back, try to follow the teletype connections back to the
innards and see what is inside.
>> Roger Ivie wrote:
>> > $ dir *.?
>> > %DCL-W-PARMDEL, invalid parameter delimiter - check use of special characters
>> > \?\
>> > $
>> That's interesting. Do angle brackets still work in directory specs?
>> That is, DIR <...> ?
Huh? Angle brackets certainly do still work:
$ DIR/GRAND/SIZ=ALL <...>
Grand total of 7342 directories, 128634 files, 9436890/9477680 blocks.
> The ? may be a holdover from earlier RSTS, RSX and RT11.
Huh? Booting into RT-11, I find that the CSI won't even take "?"'s on a
Starting system from DU3
RT-11ZM (S) V05.07
In RT-11 the single-charcter wildcard is "%".
A similar error message comes from RSX, where the single-character wildcard
is "%" as well. I don't know too much about RSTS (as opposed to RSTS/E).
The only PDP-11 operating system I know that uses "?" for single-character
wildcarding is XXDP (if you want to call it an OS...) DOS-11 might take
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From: allisonp(a)world.std.com <allisonp(a)world.std.com>
>I'd love to get a copy of the 18s801 floppy interface schematic if you
Do you want a schematic of the Parallel I/O board CDP18s646 (got that,) I
don't have one for the CDP18S801 floppy system that I do have and the manual
for the (FDS II I think) CDP18S805 floppy system dosent have much in the way
of schematics, except....a schematic of CDP18S813 (the disk interface module
for the CDP18S005 CDS) Will any of that help?
From: technoid(a)cheta.net <technoid(a)cheta.net>
>Excellent. What are the specs on the machine or do you know yet?
The options installed in the machine are listed at:
It's an 1802 microprocessor based system (of course) with 60K of ram, 15
slot (Microboard buss) "card nest", rom( ut21 utilities/monitor),
parallel&serial i/o interfaces, integrated ascii keyboard and crt, extertnal
dual 8" floppies (CDP18S801), and ports that tightly link in an external
Micromonitor (CDP18S030) microprocessor ICE unit.
CDOS, The disk based operating system has (I'm looking for) programs for
full screen editing program and various levels of interpreters/compilers for
Basic, Assembler, Pascal, etc...
I found a source for the PLM compiler and MOPS (the Micromonitor Operating
System) so the machine won't be completlely without software soon and I can
already now hand assemble stuff and poke it in through the the ut21 monitor
- Mike: dogas(a)leading.net