>Hi,
>Does anyone have any docs and/or software for Varian machines,
>particularly the 620/L-100 since I just got one, but any Varian stuff
>would be cool.
http://www.spies.com/aek/orphan.html
>I don't remember slew, but a slip is when you turn the plane slightly
>sideways to the path of motion, often to slow it down or account for
>crosswinds in a landing. Don't forget to point it straight before touchdown
>though, or it gets "interesting".
Slip is applied yaw. I've done a few lanings in high wind demonstrating the
application of yaw.
Allison
>Since that seems to be the almost the only aspect that matters these
>days, then maybe that one of the reasons why DEC did not succeed.
Their lack of direct marketing via radio and TV was a handicap. However,
KO felt the product being marketed was a technical one for professionals
and not directed at hobbiests.
>As you, and many others have stated, DEC had a better mouse
>trap. It almost always worked. The cheese was delicious and
>rarely ran out. But the other reason for the failure of DEC was that
>the DEC mouse trap was so much more expensive to buy that few
>households could afford to buy one. Never mind that in the long
Mostly prose but not completely true. The cost for a Robin, Rainbow
or PRO was consistant with the time for a competeing system with
similar hardware, software and quality. Of course that was the early 80s.
Reality was much more complex than the story of mice and traps.
DEC suffered from a complex product, limited marketing and a vision
that was right for the industry as it was (60s, 70s and early 80s) and
not was it is (for 1987 on). As a result DEC was holding facilities
like PNO, WFO and others complete with trained personell and
nothing for them to do quite literally. At the same time engineering
and marketing groups were sending things overseas for cost reasons.
It didn't take a brain surgeon to see that overhead was way out of line
as there were no layoffs until Palmer appeared. Also over the years
there were what I called "stupid product decisions".
My favorite is the LA75, $700 printer that TEC sold for $350 at local
stores. Sure DEC improved it, but it was costly. Other were monsters
like the VAX9000, fast, powerful and expensive. It was quickly replaced
by the cheaper 6000 series. Older projects like the PRO, sold maybe
40,000 units against a plan that was only scaled for 30,000! If that
sounds bad it was declared a failure. Exceeded plan and failed! An
example of short sightedness as to the size of the market. Other
examples are infamous. I got the dubious honor of participating in
just a few.
DEC was a engineering, a technology and service company. They did
not do a good job at marketing. It was mismanagemant of costs would
end a good run.
I used to remind people and they thought me nuts. If you want to annoy
the customer ship junk. If you really want to become unforgetable in the
customers eyes, go out of business. The former they can forgive if you
fix it, the latter is unforgiveable as your product is part of their
business.
DEC came close to unforgiveable, save for Compaq being there.
Allison
A local scrapper has a couple of HP 2436E versions of the HP
A400 mini's. Anyone know anything about these? I'm sure they meet the 10
year rule, but probably not by much. I believe HP still referred to
these as the HP 1000 systems---probably the next generation after the MX
series. These are part of a medical/cardiology monitoring system but I
would think he might separate them if anyone is interested. In Virginia,
BTW----near Roanoke.
Craig
I'm hoping someone can tell me something I'm missing here, cause I just
can't believe what I'm seeing....
HP7900A disc drive, using the standard media for it. The media for this
drive is virtually identical to an RK05 cartridge. I have 4 pieces of media.
I pulled a cartridge from the stack and tried to spin up the drive. Blowers
come on, but when you hit the load switch the spindle just sits there. After
three days of checking all the sensors, tracing the wires, pouring over the
schematics, still no go.
So finally on a whim (yeah, it's the first thing I should have tried) I
pulled out the cartridge, popped the cover on the drive and defeated all the
sensors. The drive spindle motor started like a champ. Put the cartridge
back in - no spindle motor. However, I noticed that when the cartridge is
in, the relay that gives AC to the spindle motor does engage correctly, but
no spindle movement. So to make a long story short, I tried the other three
pieces of media I have. I put in each piece of media at least 20 times -
every time the spindle starts up fine. But, put in that first piece of
media, the relay engages, but the spindle sits still.
What gives here? What on earth could be wrong with a media cartridge that
would cause the spindle not to move? I tried lifting up the platter slightly
and turning it, it seems to turn just as freely in the "bad" cartridge as in
the other three. I'm just really confused - is there something I'm missing
here???
Dazed and confused....
Jay West
I think this might be skirting the 10 year rule, but if anyone would
know or know where to look, it'd be youse guys.
I was just given a 3/80, an IPC, and a 20" Sun GDM (which I
assume to mean Trinitron) monitor. Is there an adapter cable that
will allow me to use the monitor on one of my Macs?
The IPC has a pair of NIC's in it, so I'd like to set it up as an IP
router/firewall later this year when I get DSL. Always wanted a
piece of Sun equipment in my network..... :o)
Any help and/or pointers would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Paul Braun
NerdWare -- The History of the PC and the Nerds who brought it to you.
nerdware(a)laidbak.com
www.laidbak.com/nerdware
Hi,
Does anyone have any docs and/or software for Varian machines, particularly
the 620/L-100 since I just got one, but any Varian stuff would be cool.
Will J
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Vohs <netsurfer_x1(a)hotmail.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: Apple Mac (was: !Re: Nuke Redmond!)
>Well, since everyone on the list has thrown in their two (or more) cents,
I
>finally feel it is my turn.
>
>Anyway, Hans has a good point going here, Apple did with the Macintosh
what
>TI tried to do when the TI-99/4A was out: try to block out third party
>developers. What can we learn from this? Very simple, never try to tell
>people they can't develop hardware & software for a machine, because that
>will only give people the extra push they need to develop stuff for a
>computer.
>
>But this is something I have noticed: We all know how many PC
manufacturers
>are abound (maybe too many), by there are how many Macintosh clone
>manufacturers? (I can't think of any off the top of my head)
My understanding is that many people (including Bill Gates!) encouraged
Apple to allow licensing of the Macintosh OS and the building of Mac clones
in the 80s and early 90s. But the management team headed by John Sculley
felt that this would amount to giving away the company, because Apple was
making most of its profits on hardware sales. If cheap Mac clones were
everywhere, who would pay Apples prices for a true Mac?
This belief was not totally unreasonable - look at what happened to IBM's
sales of PCs once clones with 100% compatible third-party BIOSes were
widely available.
Apple failed to understand that their window to exploit the Mac's
innovations was short. Once someone else produced a windowing OS that ran
on cheaper PC hardware (as Microsoft eventually did), Apple's hardware
sales would die, and the Mac OS would have lost it's chance to dominate.
And that's what happened.
There were several Power PC Mac clone manufacturers, after Apple belatedly
changed it's mind in the mid-to-late 90s. Among them StarMax, Umax, and
Motorola (I think).
>
>And the Government is jumping in Microsoft's back for being monopolistic?
>They might want to look on the other end of the spectrum. (Now I can
>understand why IBM & Motorola are pissed off at Apple for not letting
clone
>manufacturers use G3/G4's in their Maclones.) If you ask me, (and so
begins
>my conspiracy theory) I think the Microsoft Antitrust Trial was a sham,
>because why would CEO's of major software houses go against Microsoft
when,
>in most cases, their software is flying off the shelves? You do not bite
the
>hand that feeds you, unless the hand being bitten is not feeding you! If
you
>ask me, I think only one man had something to gain from this, his name is
>Steve Jobs.
Aren't Oracle, Corel, Sun and Netscape major software houses? Larry
Ellison, Michael Cowpland, Scott McNeely, and Marc Andreesen have been
vocal opponents of Microsofts at one time or another.
And Steve Jobs can't afford to come out against Microsoft, because the
viability of the iMac depends to some extent on the availability of
Microsoft Office for that platform.
Apple doesn't effectively control segments of the marketplace the way
Microsoft does. There's nothing monopolistic about restricting access to
processors or components - lots of products are proprietary to one company
and not released for sale to other companies. It's just a bad idea,
something that Apple seems determined never to learn.
Regards,
Mark.
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>
>Computer Collection:
>
>"Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, Okimate 20.
>"Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II.
>"Delorean": TI-99/4A.
>"Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable.
>"Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3.
>"Boombox": Sharp PC-7000.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Roberts <geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au>
>There is certainly a fairly wide variation between supposedly identical
>aircraft.
Training birds tend to be more out of rig. Use and abuse.
Mine was never a primary trainer and has better habits.
>Very. One of the guys I spoke too was literally chalk white when he got
>out of the aircraft.
>After years of flying a docile little Cherokee 140 he'd never
>experienced either a stall related
>snap or seen the effect of aileron on a dropped wing in a Cessna.
My first experience with a reall snap was a C152, it was flipped at
55hrs TT. It was a really nice bird but even clean approach stalls
it would violently snap to the right every time. There more about
that one but I prefer to not talk about it. Suffice to say it never got
to 150hrs. Most 152s do not fly like that.
>About sums it up. I did a Cherokee endorsement when I moved to Broken
>Hill in the 70's, and all
>they had was Cherokees, I used to fly a Cherokee Arrow
>(PA28-180-Retractable) home on some weekends, it was a nice ride. But
>the short field performance sucked and you can't taxi them through
>gates up to a house. (Both very important in a bush aircraft in this
>country.)
it was like landing a brick.
>I did an endorsement on a Victa Airtourer (looks a bit like a 2 seat
>AA5) locally (then - we sold the factory to New Zealand, then the Air
I've seen one.
>engine. Unusual control setup, instead of dual's it had a single stick
>with a spade grip in the middle of the cockpit and a central throttle.
>Easy once you get used to it. Was a lot of fun to fly, I first learnt
>how to spin in that, since spins are classed as an aerobatic manouevre
>in this country - and a stock C150 isn't cleared for them - they teach
>you how to recover from an INCIPIENT spin instead. Not sure I'm
>comfortable with that, spins are very disconcerting the first couple of
>times you encounter them, it should be a requirement.
>I have more hours in C150's than anything else, I liked them a lot.
I feel spins are important training. That and basic acro so there are no
unusual attitudes after that. Of my hours, 600 or so are in '528 my C150
and two others I trained in. It a bird I know very well right to the
screws.
I've flown it for 21 years and done a lot of the lighter maintenance even
part of the ovehaul.
>(First plane, first car, first computer, first love - they all seem to
>be special)
ah, yes.
>One day when I am rich and famous (yeah, right) I'm going to buy me one.
>I'd like the one I
>learnt in if I can, last time I looked in a register VH-KQY was still
>doing mustering on a station in Western Australia. Been there since 85.
>At least it's still flying.....
That or one of those odd aussi ag birds.
Allison
