test-drb February 2000

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by dburrows＠netpath.net

Good - That is the only one I have info on that is handy. Both jumpers out (A&B) it will respond at CSR174420 vec164 The alternate add is CSR 174400 CSR 160 with Jumper A installed. I have had one for some time but have not taken the time to play with it. It is SCSI but it responds at an RL add. Dan >The one removable PAL says TDL-13 . . . > >On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:25:06 -0500 "Daniel T. Burrows" ><dburrows(a)netpath.net> writes: >>Yes it is SCSI. I have a little info I will try to dig up for you. >>They >>will do MSCP and a few other emulation's. (RL also IIRC) It all >>depends on >>the PAL that is installed. Look for what is stamped on the PAL. >>Dan

24 years, 10 months

How many Vaxes?

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Nick Oliviero <oliv555(a)arrl.net> wrote: > My modest home collection: > MicroVaxII, BA123. Trying to accumulate necessary parts for installation > of RA73s. Last summer I receieved a wad of SDI parts including at least one KDA-50, two RA70s and a front panel for the drives. I'm hoping to somehow stuff them into my BA123 for the uVAX-II. I plan to use this machine to begin to process my wad of 9-track tapes (at least the 1600bpi ones - I do not own a 6250 bpi drive) > My VAX population will soon take a drastic decrease as I just don't > have the time to devote to hobby. With change of season, time-on-hobby > will decrease further as time-on-tractor increases. I heard that. I have a 1949 Ford 8N, myself. -ethan ===== Infinet has been sold. The domain is going away in February. Please send all replies to erd(a)iname.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

24 years, 10 months

I found an HP150 (model 45851A?)--how do I make it work?

by peter.pachla＠wintermute.org.uk

Hi Kevin, >....I picked up a lot of cool stuff, but the real prize was an >HP model 45851A (I think) 'Touchscreen II,' a.k.a HP 150C. Nice find. >....But I don't think anyone in the company still has the disk >media. I can't imagine there being any other options besides >the HP version of MS-DOS that it shipped with.... I can send you a Teledisk image of the DOS disc if you need one. Other than that I have no software for the machine. Hardware options included several different RAM boards, one with built in HP-IL interface, various floppy/hard drive units and the touch screen itself (I've NEVER seen a machine with the touch screen BTW). Do you have some form of drive unit for the machine? Without one all you have is a dumb terminal.... TTFN - Pete. -- Hardware & Software Engineer. Sound Engineer. Collector of Arcade Machines, Games Consoles & Obsolete Computers (esp DEC) peter.pachla(a)wintermute.org.uk | www.wintermute.org.uk --

24 years, 10 months

VCF 1.0e - VCF Europa in Munich, Germany!

by Jgzabol＠aol.com

For those of you who might be planning a more extended trip to Germany: There is also an International Conference on the History of Computing Heinz Nixdorf Museums-Forum, Paderborn, Germany April 5-7 http://www.hnf.de/ICHC2000/ which will focus on Mapping the History of Computing: Software Issues We surely could also provide a list of other interesting classiccmp-style places to visit, if there were any interest ... just to keep anyone busy during April. John G. Zabolitzky Munich, Germany

24 years, 10 months

Sams Photofacts (Was: Re: Rejuvenating VT320 monitors?)

by Mzthompson＠aol.com

John Wilson <wilson(a)dbit.dbit.com> wrote: > BTW, do Sams Photofacts still exist, and if so can they be ordered on-line? > Our old VCR has been getting picky about what channels it will and won't > receive, but I'm probably too dense to repair a tuner even *with* schematics, > let alone without. But the only real electronics shop in the area can't get > Photofacts any more... I honestly don't know it they do exist anymore, haven't had a need in years. The last time I saw a current Photofact, it was nothing more than a reprint of the manufacturer's material. It was not the Photofacts of old so I just sort of forgot about them. I think I bought my last one aroung 1976. It so happens that my first electronics job was with Sams PhotoFacts. That was about 30 years ago. At that time they actually acquired one of each model and tore it down to produce the photos and schematics. My job consisted of unpacking the TV, then setting it up with a mess of sensors attached to critical components to measure various parameters. I also disassembled the TV and wrote the disassembly instructions, did the chassis overview drawing, and chassis overview photos calling out the major controls and components. After that the cabinet and CRT were stored and the chassis sent down the 'line' for schematics to be drawn and parts lists produced. That process took 6-8 weeks. The fun part was after that, the set had to be reassembled and restored to working order. During the time on the line, the chassis would be handled by dozens, dropped, kicked, spilled on, and who knows what else. It was a nightmare sometimes to get a set working again, but I learned a lot. Fortunately, it was not my job to reassemble all of them, just something we all did when lacking for something to do or in need of a change. Some of the perks were nice, like a free subscription to Photofact of the Month. The was a file room where 50 or so copies of each individual Photofact were archived. You were free to go there and pull anything you needed. If it was not there, then tell the secretary and she would order it from other archives. One time I needed a Photofact for what at the time was considered an antique radio. I told the secretary and the next day she brought the complete folder, #47 as I recall. I have long since forgot the original issue date on that one. The other neat thing was the quarterly employee book sale. Needless to say, I have my share of Sams books, the paperbacks all bought for a quarter each. It pained me in later years to have to pay full price. I remember even back then that they were cutting back there 'coverage' of things like clock radios and the less expensive TV's. I guess you can call it the dawn of the age of 'discarding'. So I have to wonder what kind of coverage they provided for VCR's. Forgive me, John (et al), for not really answering your question. I had not even though about Sams in years and your posting prompted me to share. Excuse the rambling about old times. Mike

24 years, 10 months

HP9114B battery pack

by cem14＠cornell.edu

I know, bad form to reply to my own post, but I just discovered that my brain was fried last night :-) At 12:59 AM 02/22/2000 -0500, you wrote: >>However, it appears that 3 off 2.5Ah Cyclon cells would fit in the >>housing. Has this ever been tried, and does the HP charger PCB charge >>these correctly without damage? > >The 1.5 V difference is big enough that the charger may actually >damage them. Low duty lead-acid batteries are supposed >to be charged using constant voltage (with initial current limiting, >one amp for the ones in question). For standby use the charging >voltage for these is 6.9V; for cycle use the charging voltage >is 7.3V . Both are way too high for a 4.5V nominal pack. And >I think that 4.5V is probably too low for the hp9114. It should work -- 3 cyclon cells = 6V, the required nominal voltage. But I would still try to get the LCR062R4PU's. Carlos.

24 years, 10 months

IBM 3363 optical drive Technical Reference Manual wanted

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

> As the subject says, I would like to get hold of a Technical Reference Manual > for the IBM 3363 WORM drive. > > Any ideas where I might find one? (And an ISA adapter card for the 3363 too.) I thought I had this manual, but alas, no luck. What I have is the Guide to Operations. A pretty lusing manual, all told, but there is some useful info to be gleaned, like the switch settings for the ISA card. (I don't have the card - sorry). The manual also comes with about half a dozen disks of drivers and software - I think it's Drivers for ISA on 5.25 in; drivers for ISA on 3.5 in; and drivers for microchannel on 3.5in - two disks each or thereabouts. Details of the utility programs can be found in the manual. I haven't read it in detail, so I don't know how good an API you get with this. If you want this, shipping to USA is between 8 and 9 dollars (haven't got an exact figure - I just shoved the manual and one Jiffy bag on the scales in the post room), so I'll send it for $10 US. If you are not as far away from the UK as that, or want me to send it without the binder (a shame, since this is original and in good condition), the price can come down. Please e-mail me privately if you want this, and we can exchange addresses, etc. Philip. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Power Technology Centre, Ratcliffe-on-Soar, Nottingham, NG11 0EE, UK Tel: +44 (0)115 936 2000 http://www.powertech.co.uk **********************************************************************

24 years, 10 months

VCF 1.0e - VCF Europa in Munich, Germany!

by dastar＠siconic.com

I'm very proud to announce the first version of the Vintage Computer Festival in Europe! VCF 1.0e is scheduled for April 29-30 in Munich, Germany. Our beloved Hans Franke is the primary organizer of the event. I will be attending the event as well so I look forward to (hopefully) meeting a lot of you European computer collectors. The initial web site for VCF 1.0e is up but is currently only implemented in German. Complain to Hans. http://www.vintage.org/europa I hope Hans will find the time in his busy schedule to translate the site to about 7 other languages, but maybe someone can help him out. I think you silly Europeans should just adopt English already but I guess that's a flame war waiting to explode so I won't say anything (ooops :) Please send all flames and offers of assistance to Hans Franke at <hans.franke(a)mch20.sbs.de>. Unfortunately I know little about the event with regards to location, admission, etc. Hans has been doing all of the organization and we haven't been coordinating very well. All that information is on the website but I can't read much German yet unfortunately. My end of the bargain is to learn German fluently enough to give a 45 minute talk at the event. So at some point I should be able to read the pages. For now I remain an Ugly American. Oh well. I hope to see you there! It will be a BLAST! Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a six in a pile of nines... VCF Europe: April 29th & 30th, Munich, Germany VCF Los Angeles: Summer 2000 (*TENTATIVE*) VCF East: Planning in Progress See http://www.vintage.org for details!

24 years, 10 months

T.D. Systems TDL-12

by jeff.kaneko＠juno.com

The one removable PAL says TDL-13 . . . On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 22:25:06 -0500 "Daniel T. Burrows" <dburrows(a)netpath.net> writes: >Yes it is SCSI. I have a little info I will try to dig up for you. >They >will do MSCP and a few other emulation's. (RL also IIRC) It all >depends on >the PAL that is installed. Look for what is stamped on the PAL. >Dan >-----Original Message----- >From: jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com <jeff.kaneko(a)juno.com> >To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org> >Date: Monday, February 21, 2000 2:36 PM >Subject: T.D. Systems TDL-12 > > >> >>Guys: >> >>Anybody know what this is? I'm almost certain it is a >>Q-BUS SCSI adaptor, but is it for disk, tape, or ??? >> >>Is is MSCP? Does it emulate RK-0x's, or what? ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

24 years, 10 months

IBM 4381 Avbl in South Australia

by geoffrob＠stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au

Anyone able to tell me something about this type of system? It's about 300 miles north of me, and I'm considering submitting a tender for it. Some idea of it's value, probably as scrap (since that's who I'd probably be bidding against) would be good. FWIW, I personally feel it is historically significant in view of the job it did and worthy of preservation. The system is from the (now closed) Joint US/Australian Space Defense facility at Nurrungar, near Woomera. ('Way out in the desert of northern South Australia.) The entire place is up for sale by tender, houses, buildings, radomes, dishes, power & AC plant etc - plus the IBM Mainframe that did all the data processing. Quote: "The Data Reduction Centre used the IBM 4381 Computer System to process and record infrared data detected by satellite and transmitted by the Satellite Tracking Station (SRS). The raw Satellite data was relayed through a variety of computers and electronic equipment and finally to the DRC's IBM 4381 mainframe computers. The mainframe computers each had dual processors: a support processor and an instruction processor. The processors filtered out any spurious data by comparing the data against pre programmed event criteria. Data that were not needed were discardedwhile data that met certain criteria were formatted and sent to the SOC for further evaluation, this time by human beings." End quote. There are numerous pics of the the system at:- http://www.evansclarke.com.au/megatender/usaf_ibm_4381/index.htm If you click on one of the thumbnails it will show a large version of the pic with a next button to go through all of them. If you want to see the other stuff that's on offer take a look at :- http://www.evansclarke.com.au/megatender/index.html Cheers Geoff Roberts Computer Systems Manager Saint Mark's College Port Pirie, South Australia. Email: geoffrob(a)stmarks.pp.catholic.edu.au netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au ICQ #: 1970476

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test-drb February 2000