<Hmm, all this talk about anti-spam stuff and then suddenly "poof" I don't
<hear anything for hours. Wondering what happened....
<--Chuck
Donno.
Allison
>Stopped by the scrapper today and found this: IBM 3742 Dual Data Station.
>There's not much left of it, so I grabbed the little nametag off it for my
>archaic weird stuff to decorate the walls collection, but I'm curious what
>it is.
There may not be left of that particular unit, but the IBM 3740 series
(of which the 3742 is a variant) lives on today in every PC clone.
> The only thing I could find (in German, no less) was a mention from
>1975 about it having something to do with 8" disks and System/32.
In particular, every PC-clone uses a floppy disk format that's a very
direct descendant of the IBM 3740 format. Change the modulation from
FM to MFM, up the data rate, and that's all. And at least some of the
PC FDC's will read a IBM 3740 format floppy (see the discussions from
the past few years in comp.os.cpm about single-density capable
FDC's).
--
Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com
Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/
7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917
Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927
In a message dated 2/25/2000 1:10:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,
rhudson(a)ix.netcom.com writes:
> 1 CRT (which was
> displayed in two displays with a mirror arrangement). the two users would
> sit
> facing each other with the floppy drive on the right for each. Each with
> their
> own keyboard.
I stand corrected. This is true. One monitor with mirrors to two displays. It
has been a long time. It was made by IBM.
Paxton
In a message dated 2/24/2000 8:55:15 PM Pacific Standard Time,
xds_sigma7(a)hotmail.com writes:
> IBM 3742 Dual Data Station.
1975 about it having something to do with 8" disks and System/32.
A classic example of a huge plastic data entry workstation that resembled a
desk for two operators with a couple of small IBM boards in it. 150 pounds of
non recyclable plastic, IIRC. Two small 9"? mono monitors & two keyboards for
two operators to enter data. Two original IBM 8" disk drives. It has been 10
years since I have seen one so I hope my memory is correct.
It was a small business data entry station that could be better done with two
terminals. I believe it could be used with the System one besides the /32. I
also think you could hook up a printer directly.
IBM made things large because it was expected of them. After all in 1975 it
couldn't be a real computer peripheral or worth big bucks if it wasn't large.
Very poor scrap. 60 Cubic feet of plastic garbage. It definitely is a
collectable if complete and you have space for it. I doubt many were saved.
The chassis stuck around because 4 of them would fill a dumpster.
Paxton
Hi,
Stopped by the scrapper today and found this: IBM 3742 Dual Data Station.
There's not much left of it, so I grabbed the little nametag off it for my
archaic weird stuff to decorate the walls collection, but I'm curious what
it is. The only thing I could find (in German, no less) was a mention from
1975 about it having something to do with 8" disks and System/32.
Will J
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We have recently made changes to our mail servers here that may possibly
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servers were recently configured to utilitize the MAPS RBL, DUL, and RSS
databases (see www.mail-abuse.org for details).
Entities that send spam typically make use of mail servers that are
improperly configured in such a way as to allow relaying (ie. they are "open
relays"). This means that these problem mail servers are often used to
bounce mail off of and redistribute spam. Our mail servers have been
configured to properly reject mail that is neither from or to a "local"
address for many years. However, if our users (or any domains we host,
including classiccmp.org) are on the spammers mailing list we have not been
able to reject that spam in the past because the target address was both
valid and local. By utilizing MAPS, any inbound mail is checked to see if it
originated from a system or network that is known to be an open relay - if
so, the message is rejected. Thus not only are we not an open relay, but we
will refuse to accept or send mail that is from or to any system that is an
open relay. That is the function of RBL and RSS; DUL is a blacklist of
non-open relays that are however known originators of spam.
You can check the above URL for details, but the basic gist is that when
anyone on the internet receives junk mail via an open relay, they can submit
the open relay's IP address to the MAPS database. The MAPS folks will test
the server and if problematic they'll contact the administrator for that
system and ask them to fix their open relay. If they do not fix the system
within 5 days, they are added to the maps database. Once the administrator
fixes the open relay their system is retested by MAPS and if compliant it is
removed from the database. Our mail servers will not accept mail from or
deliver mail to any system in the MAPS database. You can tell if you've
encountered this by your message being returned to you with a note clearly
stating that your message was rejected due to RBL, DUL, or open-relays.
As you may gather, this does open the possibility of "throwing the baby out
with the bath water". If your ISP has an open relay, we will not accept your
mail. In this case you need to call your ISP and ask them to fix their mail
server security deficiency. If one of your ISP's other customers is a source
of spam, it is somewhat possible your ISP will be blocked (which albeit
unfairly blocks you). This generally isn't much of a problem because most
ISP's are very responsive to requests from MAPS. After weighing these issues
we decided that there's no reason that our servers should have to converse
with other servers that are known to be insecure or frequent sources of
spam. We really really really dislike spam, and feel that this action is
wholly appropriate.
Regards,
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Here is someone with a bunch of classic to semi-classic software for sale.
Please reply to the original sender.
Reply-to: urdahl(a)telus.net
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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:08:00 -0800
From: Hans and Sharon Urdahl <urdahl(a)telus.net>
To: vcf(a)vintage.org
Subject: Software for sale
Could you please let me know if there is a internet site where I could
list these items Thank you.
Inventory list of software: Quantity:
Packard Bell MS-Dos 4.0 OPERATING 3 1
Combase (c) 1987 Data base communications inc. 8 New
Tandy 1000 Cat.no.25-1504 technical referenc manual 1
Tandy 1000 Cat.no.25-1501 MS-Dos reference manual 5
Packard Bell MS-Dos 4.0 SHELL 1
SVGV-UTILITY (disk 1&2) 5" floppy 1
Racal Interlan, Diags and drives for ni 5210 ver 2.0
contains 158-0248-00 24 New
Poly-XFR CP/M Comms communications for Rainbow 100 2
VISI CALC.instantly calulates elec.work sheet
user's guide for APPLE II&II plus 48k 16 sector 3
AccPac. Accouts receivable 10
AccPac. Accounts payable 8
AccPac. General ledger and financing report 3
Zenith data systems Heath software 3
Olivetti software libary STK 286 5 new
Olivetti MS-Dos pc 286 10 new
Microsoft M Basic 86 basic interpreter for rainbow 100 4
Rainbow 100 cp/m-86/80 operating system 1
Rainbow 100 user kit 1
Diskette drive head cleaning kit FD-08 Series 2024 5 new
Irish 5" floppy 1
Micom Philips 8" floppy 380
Flexible disk caddy for 8" floppy 33
Come Base user guide communication program for IBM PC 2
Packard Bell Modem 2400 BPS reference manual 2
Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger
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<> with a seven deadly dirty words it was a risk to us as well. So it was a
<> condition of service or else...
<
<If you were a Common Carrier, the material transmitted by your customers
<would not be your problem. If you had to police it, you were NOT a
<Common Carrier.
In the radio biz during the early 70s FCC was as powerful as IRS and
equally inclined to take actions as they saw fit. THe only one that
Had official common carrier back then was TPC (The Telephone Company)
Loosing a license for a repeater could mean a lot of lost business.
The profit was from service contracts on the users as the repeater was
not a profit mechanism. This may have changed in the last 20 years.
So no law said so but I did use the word civil penelty. Also other
customers hearing the bad stuff on the repeater (despite PL tone)
often did complain.
Allison
Hi all
I just found 3 packages of Masstor data cartridges. They are cylindrical
about 2 1/2 inches in diameter, about 4 inches long and look to be covered
with some sort of oxide surface. They are hollow and have a kind of snap in
connector on one end. I have examined the Web and the only references I
find are for large mass storage devices for supercomputer and particle
accelerator labs. I seem to remember, from some movie, some sort of robot
arm storage device that picked cylindrical cartridges out of a honeycomb
structure and inserted them in to a reader/writer. Very large storage,
about 360 GB, late 80's early 90's time frame.
Any information would be approciated
Mike
mmcfadden(a)cmh.edu
