test-drb November 2000

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by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Shawn: Although I didn't see this on your Web page, do you have any 4mb Mac SIMMs? If I could get 4-4mb SIMMs and the cover plates, I'd be happy. Rich -----Original Message----- From: Shawn T. Rutledge [mailto:rutledge@cx47646-a.phnx1.az.home.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 3:33 PM To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: New IIci On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 02:00:11PM -0500, Cini, Richard wrote: > I have no use for either the workstation card or the Token Ring > cards. I could sell them on ePay, but if you can use either or both, they're > yours for a trade. I'm looking for a new 230w ATX power supply (for a MAME OK, I think I'd only want the workstation card. I don't anticipate ever having a token ring network. > cabinet project), two IIci NuBus card slot covers, maybe copies of some > games for the ci. That's about what comes to mind immediately. I'm open to > other suggestions. I could give you slot covers out of my IIcx (which sortof became a parts machine after I discovered I needed the floppy to put in the IIci). As for software I only remember having one game for color macs, a long time ago... Gem Hunter or something like that, you collect gems while running around the screen and avoiding obstacles, shooting the bad guys etc. I also have HyperCard, SuperCard, ThinkC, Poser, Bryce, Word, and umm I think I just got PageMaker 5 last night (they were throwing out some old stuff at work). Also check out my trade page at www.bigfoot.com/~ecloud/ -- _______ Shawn T. Rutledge / KB7PWD ecloud(a)bigfoot.com (_ | |_) http://www.bigfoot.com/~ecloud kb7pwd(a)kb7pwd.ampr.org __) | | \________________________________________________________________ Free long distance at http://www.bigredwire.com/me/RefTrack?id=USA063420

23 years, 10 months

Welcome and VME

by ajp166＠bellatlantic.net

>>Oh, there are a lot of them about. Of course it depends what you mean by >>'4 bit', but if that's the ALU/bus width, then the HP Saturn processor (used >>in the 71B, 28, 48, 49, etc, etc, etc) is a 4 bit chip. And I certainly like >>those machines (and yes, IMHO they are computers rather than calculators). > >I have no idea what you're on about. =) >Besides, a 4-bit address bus seems utterly, utterly limited. For most of those the data path was 4bits the address path was often 12 or more bits. Allison

23 years, 10 months

Searchable DEC Card Database Online

by kdavis＠ndx.net

I put together a perl-based database of the field guide to make it easier to go though my boards. I cleaned it up a bit and put it on my server in case anyone else finds it useful: http://ndx.net/decsearch Kirk

23 years, 10 months

NextStep/OpenStep on PC?

by mcguire＠neurotica.com

On November 15, Enrico Badella wrote: > Now this is interesting. Where can you get it? Last I remember xStep was > purchase by Sun when Next folded , wasn't it? Uhh, NeXT folded? No, they were bought by Apple...now we have NeXTSTEP on our PowerPC machines, with Apple copyright notices. Woohoo. -Dave McGuire

23 years, 10 months

Sun Sparc2 offered to me. What should I check for?

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Claude asked (of a Sun Sparc2) >> It will run Linux right? Zane added: >It looks like it, plus it should run SunOS, Solaris, NetBSD, and OpenBSD. Cool table of SPEC(int,fp), Zane. Thanks! Where's this from? I believe NeXTStep/OpenStep will also run on those machines. My "dream machine" would be a SS5/110, couple Gigs HD space, OpenStep 4.2/Dev, Mathematica, Trinitron Monitor ... <salivate> ... - Mark

23 years, 10 months

Welcome and VME

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On Nov 15, 21:40, Iggy Drougge wrote: > Tony Duell skrev: > >What 26 bit machine were you thinking of? > > The old Acorn Archimedes machines. > I'm sbscribed to the NetBSD/arm26 list, and I seem to recall that registers... > Oh, forget it. I'm a know-nothing when it comes to the Acorn. > > >> live condor in the northern hemisphere. > >> What feature about the older ARM processors is 26 bit? > > >In some cases, I believe the address bus was 26 bits wide. > > What a nice, round figure. Yeah. Right :-) Someone decided that they'd not need more memory in the foreseeable future than could be addressed in 26 bits (where have we seen this reasoning before, I wonder) and in fact RISC OS even divided that into two images, logical and physical memory. The other part of the reasoning ws that you have to put the processor flags somewhere, and putting six bits in a 32-bit register is wasteful, and we only have sixteen registers to begin with, and we don't need all the width of the PC, and .. and... Anyway, that's how it came about, and RISC OS has always been restricted to 26-bit address ARM chips. Hence the recent discussions on comp.sys.acorn.* about why it would be too much work to make RISC OS run on the newst incarnation of StrongARM, which has a 32-bit mode but not 26-bit. I *think* the original StrongARM has both, but I could be wrong. Earlier ARMs (Arm2, Arm3, Arm{6,7,8}00 are all 26-bit address (No, I don't know how the memory management deals with the 256MB possible in a RISC PC; it came after I left Acorn). In fact, if you want to be pedantic, the PC itself is only 24-bit, because the bottom two bits of the register are flags used to indicate the processor mode (user, interrupt, fast interrupt, supervisor). The bottom two bits of the address bus are alway forced to zero, and all memory accesses are word-aligned. So how does it read a byte (or half-word) off an non-aligned address? Easy, it uses it's barrel shifter to rotate the word while loading! -- Pete Peter Turnbull Dept. of Computer Science University of York

23 years, 10 months

NextStep/OpenStep on PC?

by mtapley＠swri.edu

Enrico wrote: >Now this is interesting. Where can you get it? Last I remember xStep was >purchase by Sun when Next folded , wasn't it? > >e. Black Hole Inc., http://206.67.57.106/ Is advertising both OpenStep 4.2 (NeXT/Intel/Sparc) and NeXTStep 3.3 (Intel/NeXT or HP PA/Sparc). Prices are in the hundreds of dollars, though. Apple may also still be selling it, I have not looked there. - Mark

23 years, 10 months

Tracking history of old iron

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Anybody know of someone/somebody/department I can contact at DEC to possibly find out the original buyer and/or configuration of a VAX 6000 that I have? serial numbers/model info: http://www.decvax.org/vax6000/images1/vax11.jpg I'm also looking for a front-panel key for it. Bill -- Bill Bradford mrbill(a)mrbill.net Austin, TX

23 years, 10 months

VAX 8350/parts available in Montreal (free - just shipping)...

by claudew＠sprint.ca

Hi I have been invited to look around someones basement to pick up whatever old computer stuff I want. I was told there is a fully functionnal VAX 8350 there and other stuff...the unit will be scrapped. If anybody wants any VAX 8350 parts from this one that can be shipped from Montreal, Canada, I can take it (them) out and get it (them) shipped (you pay shipping of course...) I don't collect VAX stuff... The VAX will probably go to scrap. I was the only person (slightly) interested but I have no space... Anything to add to my collection of vintage "home" pcs (non ibm arch.) from the 70-80 early 90's will be greatly appreciated to thank me for this service...not essential - but would be so nice of you... I will be going there in a few days, the unit will be scrapped soon. email me. Claude

23 years, 10 months

Rayovac 844B 4.5v alkaline

by mikeford＠socal.rr.com

I bought a couple cases (60/case) of Rayovac 844B 4.5v alkaline computer memory batteries, and may grab a couple more if anybody is interested in a case. The cases are new and sealed, but old stock, with batteries so far measuring just about exactly 4.5 volts. Price is great, $50 for a case of 60, $20 for 10, $10 for 3, and $5 each, all plus actual shipping. I am open to trades too, but leave for business in Montreal all next week on Sat. Cheers, Mike Ford

23 years, 10 months

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test-drb November 2000