At 10:18 AM 4/14/99 -0700, Sellamou wrote:
>I don't know about Australia, but here in the States the 9121 drives are
>fairly common at ham fests and surplus shops. Someone may correct me but
>I believe this is the type of drive that will work with the HP150.
Yes, that's correct. Some will work with the double sided 9122 drives
also. It depends on which ROMs they have.
Joe
> > But what kind of computer would a satellite software company have been
> > planning to run that program on before they ported it to the real world?
> Hal ??
I can imagine some nutty fanatical CS prof (like me) saying, "If you want
TRUE platform independence, then IGNORE all realities of the computer;
write your program for an imaginary computer that would be perfect for
your needs; then map the keyboard, etc. over to the layout that is present
on the real world computer."
Is that the way that it happened? Or was there some computer that
actually HAD those goofy keys? (There were eventually some aftermarket
add-on keyboards for the PC for WordPervert.)
Please do NOT interpret this as a defence for MSWeird!
>> I just picked up an IBM 3270 Personal Computer Programmed Symbols Adapter
>> card in the box. The box says that it's "an option that provides the
>> storage and controls for displaying an APL font and six additional
>> programmable fonts." It's a full length 8 bit card with two sockets on the
>> to edge. There is also two jumpers in the box that I assume are used to
>> jumper this card to another card. I didn't get any instructions or
>> software with it. Does anyone know how to use it or have instructions etc
>> for it?
>>
>> Joe
>>
> That sounds like a card which could enable my otherwise useless IBM
> monitor meant for the 3270XT. There was a previous discussion on this
> machine a while back. I think there were something like 5 cards in the
> total array which didn't leave much for peripherals in the XT. On the
> other hand I might be thinking of the Epson QX-10 Valdocs :^))
Like Sam, I think of three cards in this connection, but I also recall that not
all machines had all cards. The 3270 card may not have been the same card as
the display adaptor...
On the display side, there was a display card, which may or may not have been
part of the terminal card. Without it, you can't drive the 5272 monitor, I'm
afraid. In addition, you could get the All Points Addressable (APA) card, which
emulated the CGA graphics modes (but note that the 5272 only displays 8
colours), and the PS card, which you have, which emulated the graphics and
programmable character set modes of the 3279 terminal.
I'm afraid the card on its own won't be of much use...
Philip.
Today I dusted off the HP150 I picked up the other week, when I saw it I
actually believed it was only a terminal, but it had a HP-IB interface
which made me pick it up. Discovering that it is a non-IBM compatable 8088
based machine with a touch-screen was nice :-) Not having any drives with
it renders it useless as a computer, but I am interested in getting it
working as a touch screen terminal, does anyone have the docs for this? or
be able to tell me what "Power-on error 1000" means? and how to test out
the touchscreen?
Megan: I haven't forgotton about the VSV-11, I have holidays next week so
I'll fire it up and see if it still works for you, been a busy fortnight
:-)
Cheers
Karl
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Karl Maftoum
Computer Engineering student at the University of Canberra, Australia
Email: k.maftoum(a)student.canberra.edu.au
>> > Then there was the Tektronix 'almost 6800' used in the 4052, etc. It was
>> > a board of 2901's, etc and ran an instruction set that was almost upwards
>> > compatible with the 6800 used in the 4051 (IIRC the DAA instruction was
>>
>> The moto 6800 was protoed using 2901s. It would only need two.
>
> The Tektronix used 4 2901's and was actually a 16 bit processor (for
> address calculations, etc). Just that user data was only calculated using
> 2 of the chips ;-)
Hey, Tony, why the winking smiley? That's no joke, it's really true! Four
2901s and a lovely 16bit architecture, and then they go and implement a 6800 on
it. :-( :-( :-(
Philip.
> RS is colloquial for "Rat Sh-t" in Oz, They don't market under that name
> here, but as Tandy or Micronta.
> (Accurate product description though isn't it?)
:-) In the UK they are also generally known as Tandy. RS is a big company
(originally Radio Spares) selling electronic components to the trade.
Philip.
Me, too, but you don't know my dad...
He has his computer in the living room, with the screen facing the window,
and he says that he wants it to look nice when it's booting (don't_ask)...
I think he deleted the spare one, too. I did a search, and can't find it
anywhere. Either the computer didn't come with a copy of the CD on the HD,
or my dad deleted the copy, because I can't find that, either.
I told him he'd be better off to just put DOS back on the thing....
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-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Braun <nerdware(a)laidbak.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: VERY OT: Win'98 splash screen
I'd be thankful. Most people, myself included, use TweakUI to make it go
away....
Paul Braun
NerdWare -- The History of the PC and the Nerds who brought it to you.
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www.laidbak.com/nerdware
>Hello. This 4000/300 has been dominating my computer room for a while,
>and I love how it looks, but it'd be great if it worked.
>
>The boot-diagnostic LED on the inside panel is stuck at 'F'. I don't have a
>field service manual, so I don't know the exact meaning. I've checked all
>of the boards inside to make sure they're snug inside, but no luck. Nothing
>shows up on a terminal hooked up to the MMJ jack. The drives seem to
>power up.
This means that the DC OK signal on the backplane isn't being asserted.
If the Q-bus consists of more than one box chained together, this
typically means that at least one of the boxes' power supplies either
isn't working or has a sick DC OK signal.
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Mitch: Don't know if I have a printset. I will look into that question.
Zane: The comment on storage capacity was intended to come
across as sarcastic. Also, as a comment on the size of hard disk
drives now being sold. I mean, I saw a 20GB IBM (I believe) for
under $350.00US at Fry's last week.
William R. Buckey
> Well, I don't know. However, MS Word/Windows and /Macintosh has a strange
> option: to have large white letters on a blue background instead of black
> on white. This has nothing to do with any color settings, and no other
> colors can be used in a similar way. This may have classic reasons. Anyone
> know?
>Don't know the exact reason but that was the default color
>combination of the DOS version of MS Word (and every day I use
>the current version, I long for the old one).
Well perhaps it is because the de-facto standard DOS wordprocessor was Word
Perfect. Their system was default blue screen and white letters. A long long
time ago in a system far far away Microsoft was just another software
company and they 'adopted' WordPerfect's colors and emulated WP commands.
Paul