test-drb April 1999

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OT: Re: Time to declare State of Massachusetts the ENEMY! He

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

In a message dated 99-04-15 19:12:43 EDT, you write: > The Emperor's New Clothes in the information age :) > How long does it take to install win95 on a 386? Longer than on a pentium, > I'll bet, especially since you may have to sit there and swap floppies. > I have no problem running Windows 3.1, I like it a lot more in some ways. > It's a very nice program, now that I've seen the alternative :) > > --Max Eskin (max82(a)surfree.com) > http://scivault.hypermart.net: Ignorance is Impotence - Knowledge is Power there's nothing wrong with a 386 running win3.1 i think the min requirements for windont95 is 386dx-40 and 8meg. i setup a ps2 model 57sx for a person that normally couldnt afford one and put plenty of old software like msworks and publisher and some dos games as well as an external 14.4 modem. a local isp will help her set it up for net access and she's happy as a clam. it is slow, but certainly better than nothing. heck, even doom 2 will run on a 386 if you run it in a small window!

25 years, 9 months

Worst of Both Worlds (IMPORTANT)

by mbg＠world.std.com

>> I saw a blurb in the newspaper (available at >> http://www.tcm.org/join_forces.html) that The Computer Museum and The >> Science Museum in Boston, MA are merging. It says that 'The History >> Center' of the Computer Museum is now in Mountain View, California and >> is applying to become a separate institution. Anyway, this shuffling >> may mean lots of stuff being thrown out or damaged. The Computer Museum >> may opt to clean out its basement... > >OK, so who is close enough to dumpster-dive? I am... and I think Allison might be interested... I heard something about this on NPR earlier today... they were talking about how the purposes of both museums (with regard to computers) are compatible in that they want to focus on the affect computers have had on our lives... I take that to mean that they won't be as interested in the hardware and specific technologies... Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

25 years, 9 months

OT: Re: Time to declare State of Massachusetts the ENEMY! He

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<>Personally, I tend to draw the line at the 386. In a Windows and GUI world <>I really don't want the aggravation to trying to teach someone text mode <>apps or of having to listen when they can't find *any* software. This is <>the same reason I will never give another person an Apple II unless they <>already know about and want one. Most of the later 386 are ok, parts are easy and they do run winders95 though W3.1 is a better match. I know I've done it. The real market for them is the MINIX/LINIX crowd as those OSs can really make them sing. Minix on a DELL 316 (386slx/16 with 8mb) really runs well and linux on same is fair. Allison

25 years, 9 months

NEC APC III

by roblwill＠usaor.net

I need a boot disk for an NEC APC III. I believe it has a 720k 5.25" floppy, and uses a special version of DOS 2.11. My question is: If I can't find a 720k 5.25" floppy (360k disks won't work), would I be able to replace it with a 720k 3.5" drive? ThAnX, -- -Jason Willgruber (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#: 1730318 <http://members.tripod.com/general_1>

25 years, 9 months

Abort, Retry, Ignore, Fail? (Was: stepping machanism

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

> 2-dimensional array. You don't have to prototype anything which is why I > called it a lazy person's C. Hang on. I don't claim to be fluent in C, so I was keeping out of this debate, but this is well weird! As I understand it, you don't have to prototype anything in C - or shouldn't have to. The only C compiler I've ever used doesn't even SUPPORT prototypes! (And that brings it back on topic, since it was installed in 1987 on the RT PC later to become mine...) Philip. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. **********************************************************************

25 years, 9 months

Salvage (was Re: OT: Re: Time to declare State of Massachusetts the ENEMY! Hey!)

by ethan_dicks＠yahoo.com

--- Allison J Parent <allisonp(a)world.std.com> wrote: > Max, > > How many of the oddball PS2 floppy drives were wasted? I could use one or > two. Sure they arent valueable but when you need one... I also use parts > to the soldered board level. I haven't got any spare PS2 floppies, but I do have a box of Sony floppy drives, OEMed for Tandy that have blue eject buttons and no power connector. I declined to purchase the $40 adapter (Radio Shack 1992 price) that allows them to be used in a regular PC so I don't know the pinout (i.e., where the voltage comes in on the 34-pin connector). I do not know the density, but I suspect them to be 720K. A) Does anyone want any of these? B) Does anyone have the pinout of the 34-pin connector? Thanks, -ethan _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

25 years, 9 months

Several things

by Philip.Belben＠pgen.com

>> Fair enough. Just another example of different places to draw boundaries, with >> grey areas in between. I would call the ROM version microcoded, and the hard >> wired version not, because the ROM version contains CODE. (I would agree that > > I think a lot of people would. I just have problems distinguishing them > in the first place. > > This might be because I've worked with FPGAs where the logic block (5 > inputs 1 out) is a 32 bit RAM. I give my schematic to the FPGA compiler > and it partitions the logic into suitable bits and works out what to > stick in the RAMs to make the gates I need. Since I always checked (and > sometimes corrected) what the compiler had done, I got used to thinking > of combinatorial logic and programmed memories as being roughly the same > thing. Makes sense. Another grey area. I must admit that I too would call that microcode. This is reminiscent of the famous analogu/digital grey area... >> To show how grey this is, if you use a ROM to implement the combinatorial logic >> for a flipflop-per-state machine, would you call the code in this ROM microcode? > > Hmmm... Now you mention it, I guess I have to call that microcode. I'm > therefore inconsistent... I wouldn't worry about it. Goedel's theorem says that if you weren't, you'd have to be incomplete :-) Philip.

25 years, 9 months

OT: Religious Festivals (was:Re: Fwd: H8 Enthusiasts)

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

>>The Friday before Easter is called Good Friday. I've never managed to >>work out what "kar" means in your name for it. My favourite, though >>is Ascension, which I understand you call Himmelfahrt... > > Literally, "gone to Heaven" -- my wife's maiden name (unmarried -- not sure Yes, I got that (or "journey to Heaven"), from German O-level [UK exam taken at age 16]. "Weihnacten", for Christmas, doesn't take much decoding to get "holy night(s)". But my dictionary is quite silent as to what the element "kar-" might represent. Philip. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. **********************************************************************

25 years, 9 months

Can someone identify some boards?

by mbg＠world.std.com

>The ROI is a rebadged Emulex UC07 SCSI disk or Tape, If you don't have >docs let me know and I will organize something. The >Emulex_unknown_001.jpg is a CS08 8 line mux - DHV11 emulation. I will >need some more # from the plessey to figure it out. Thanks VERY much... this helps. Yes, I would like more info on the ROI board... Specifically I'd like to know about the switch pack and its settings... (I love this resource...:-) Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL | Internet (work): gentry!zk3.dec.com | | Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg!world.std.com | | Compaq Computer Corporation | addresses need '@' in place of '!' | | 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

25 years, 9 months

8" drive on a pc controller

by bill＠chipware.com

> Oh? I'm running v1.44 and have no such problems. Try creating a disk with a large directory, more than two tracks. Then try to display the directory. On all of the drives that I have tried, you will hear that little "click/tick" sound indicating that it tried to step the heads too fast. You will then get a spurious media failure message. Of course, it is possible that I missed something in the instructions, but I beat my head against it for a long time. Then tried the older version where you can manually set the step delay and volia! No problems.

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