Ok, if this is not the funniest online saga since the beginning of the web
I don't know what is.
First of all, if you haven't checked out the auction, go now to:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=62692227
Also, be sure to read this article which puts the icing on this cake:
http://www.rewired.com/cgi-bin/rewired_redirect.cgi?year=99&article=0125.ht…
I can't wait to see how this all turns out. Amazingly, this thing is
already up to $5,100! That's only $1000 less than the Alto II. Seems
like we're collecting the wrong stuff.
Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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Always hasslin' the man.
Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0
See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details!
[Last web site update: 01/15/99]
This is a request to see if there are enough Houston people, (and
enough interest), to have a gathering.
Please reply to me, not the list.
Basic idea is meet at a central location, perhaps a Bennigans, and just
gab. Talk old computers, drink a few of your favorite. early to mid
March, some Saturday afternoon, 2-3 hours at most. variations on
this theme welcome.
We now return you to your normally scheduled OT discussions.
Thanks,
Kelly
KFergason(a)aol.com
Just sold an Adam, minus software. The customer wants software, now. Can
you send a list of a few thangs you might have, plus prices? Do you have
books?
Thank you
manney
+AD4-I've got a tonne of Adam cassette software... What are you looking for?
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+AD4-- Mike: dogas+AEA-leading.net
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+AD4-Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 8:11 PM
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+AD4APg-Does anyone have any ADAM joysticks and/or software? ...or any commercial
+AD4APg-source for them?
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+AD4APg-What to you suppose would happen if I called up Coleco?
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+AD4APg-manney
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Hi gang. Well, my father is safely transitioned to his iMac, so as soon as I
get done sorting stuff out, I'll have an apple2GS with 4 megs of ram and a
printer card, along with a monitor, 2 3.5 inch drives, and a 5.25 inch drive to
sell. In a related note, I got my 2e running with a hard disk. It boots
to Prodos so fast it doesn't bear mentioning... but it's been a long time since
I used an 8 bit apple2, how do you transition from one .SYS image to another?
I have a launcher that does the job on my GS in 2e mode, but my e doesn't appear
to have enough ram to run it.
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Jim Strickland
jim(a)DIESPAMMERSCUMcalico.litterbox.com
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I've got a tonne of Adam cassette software... What are you looking for?
- Mike: dogas(a)leading.net
-----Original Message-----
From: PG Manney <manney(a)hmcltd.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 8:11 PM
Subject: Adam parts
>Does anyone have any ADAM joysticks and/or software? ...or any commercial
>source for them?
>
>What to you suppose would happen if I called up Coleco?
>
>manney
>
>
>
-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Fandt <cfandt(a)netsync.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Thursday, 4 February 1999 3:29
Subject: Re: 3-phase (was: Re: CDC 9766 Drive and packs)
Except Jamestown, we pay only $0.03565 per KWH :-)
Lucky boy. We pay 12 cents a KWH in this part of Oz.
Most people with serious heating needs opt for natural gas.
Mind you, we don't need heat as much anyway, but an airconditioner of
reasonable size can cost upwards of 20c an hour to run, and in summer
(like now) we need it. Might have to emigrate....:^)
3 phase is uncommon outside industrial sites. ETSA (Electricity Trust
of South Australia) will only install it if you can prove you need it.
415v 3 phase, that is. Some (all electric) homes may have a couple of
seperate 240vac single phase circuits that are fed from seperate phases,
but even that's unusual.
Cheers
Geoff Roberts
Computer Systems Manager
Saint Marks College
Port Pirie South Australia.
My ICQ# is 1970476
Ph. 61-411-623-978 (Mobile)
61-8-8633-0619 (Home)
61-8-8633-8834 (Work-Direct)
61-8-8633-0104 (Fax)
A friend of mine found this at a garage sale. Small grey box with a long
cord and DB-9 connector. The front of the box says "Air Media Live" and has
a LED on it. Does anyone know what it is?
Joe
On Feb 3, 11:43, Philip.Belben(a)PowerTech.co.uk wrote:
> ISO Latin on a classic computer? Pull the other one!
Well, an Archimedes is certainly a classic computer (born 1987), and it's
native character set is ISO Latin 1. SunOS supported it then, too, IIRC.
> ISTR that the IBM PC had it at decimal 156. I have seen it replace $, #,
\
> (Commodore VIC) and `
Most common is to replace #, but ` is not so rare.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
>Second to the last command: IND SYSGEN
>Last command: told it to build only the monitors
Then I would say that it may depend on what you specified for the
output files for the sysgen.
You see, it is possible for just about any command issued under RT
to specify a disk without a filename... in which case the output of
whatever command you have issued will be to the *disk*, beginning
with block 0... this means that depending on how many blocks are
written, you may wipe out the boot block (0), home block (1),
secondary boot blocks (2-5), directory (6-67) and files (beginning
with block 68).
>It made it through the first bit of assembling (pardon the description,
>I'm still learning) and then it bombed. I tried to start it again and it
>bombed immediatly. At which point I decided to type: BOOT DU2:
Again, I'd need to see the *exact* commands issued to know how bad it
might be...
>The worst part is that I'd noticed that FLX under RSX11M couldn't write
>to the drive the night before. I guess I should have backed up my data
>at that point.
Hmmm... then sysgen and what it was doing may not be the problem. What
is the disk you are using? If an MSCP disk (like an RD series disk),
one or more blocks may have the 'forced error' bit set... which results
in errors when you attempt to read it. The way to clear this error is
to write the block (which I believe results in a revectoring process for
the bad block). The data for that block may be lost, however...
I seem to remember the option '/K' for DUP... I'll have to check the
documentation.
One thing which may be a problem is that if the bad block is in the
'system area', blocks 0-68, then RT pretty much refuses to allow you
to do anything with the disk... the idea being that there are times
when not enough of a device driver is in memory to do bad-block
revectoring...
>I guess I should look at it this way, even if I can't recover the data, I
>think I've got printouts of most of it. I'll only really have to
>re-enter a couple of the files, since the rest I don't really need.
I think it may be time to resurrect my RT volume analyzer and recovery
program and get back to work on it...
>Does RT-11 have some sort of utility like "BRU" under RSX-11, or "BACKUP"
>under VMS? I think I need to start backing up nightly to TK50 if I'm
>going to be doing much work on the system.
BACKUP.SAV...
KMON (keyboard monitor) command 'BACKUP' (or backup/restore)
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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>Actually, there was a thingy called PC/IX which ran on those non
>memory-managed systems. I actually managed to snag a copy a few years ago.
Well, and of course there's Minix (where Linux started)...
Any Unix clones for 8080/Z80 systems? It ought to be doable, given that the
original Unix was done on a 64KB address space machine...
- Joe
