test-drb February 1999

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by joe＠barrera.org

Doug, I know damn well you don't buy your 4004s at Fry's. Fry's charges too much for them, and you're too cheap. I don't know where you get 4004s, but I get mine at Home Depot -- they're about $0.39 a pound (if you bag them yourself). And the Home Depot ones can usually be overclocked up to 3.3 GHz. (I assume you're talking about the GaAs 4004s -- I wouldn't bother with those old ECL ones.) - Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug <doug(a)blinkenlights.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 8:07 PM Subject: Re: Intel 4004 >On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, David Freibrun wrote: > >> You have an Intel 4004? Where did you obtain this? > >Everybody in the Valley has a bunch of them, David. We get them at Fry's. > >-- Doug > >

25 years, 10 months

C128 (was: some finds...)

by lfb107＠psu.edu

At 12:09 PM 2/9/99 -0800, Cameron Kaiser wrote: >::> ... my lovely 128DCR ... > >::Did Commodore Retire ? > >Oh yeah. Sorry :-) > >DCR = D Cost Reduced > >The 128D(CR) are the 128s with integrated 1571 disk drives. The D series have >flat 128 electronics (16K VDC RAM, 6581 SID) and the 1571 on a separate board. >Externally, they have a plastic shell. They are virtually unknown in North >America. > >The DCR series, which came later, are a one-board design with the upgraded >128 ROMs, 64K VDC RAM and the 8580 HMOS-2 SID. Externally, the shell is >metal. They are the only type of D series 128s sold in America, but they are >also in Europe in small quantities (later German 128Ds, for example, are >really 128DCRs with the German-language EPROM). Despite the name, for my >money, the DCR seems to be more solidly built. The metal case holds my 1702 >monitor (heavy!) without so much as a flex or even a buckle. I haven't seen the FAQ in ages but I think most DCR's actually shipped with 16k of Video Ram, thus "cost reduced." The 64k units were called something else. My 128dCR has 16k. : ( Les

25 years, 10 months

some finds...

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Nice find Alison! The best thing about the 128 was the color monitor <that may/may not have come with it. You can use it for a CGA monitor I believe the monitor is a zenith mono. I have VGA color only and a bunch of mono Herc mono monitors. Such is life. <with an XT et al and as a vcr/tv tuner monitor as well. Of course it <has a 64 chip in it as well as a CP/M. I have lots of info and 64? I know it has a 6502 and z80. <peripherals and software if you need anything. Pocket Writer 128 is a <good WP and, believe it or not, it is still available retail. I have a spreadsheet a few games and Jane word processor. If the CP/M disks I got are good then I can move some of the better things I have on to it. I also have the test/demo and tutorial disks. Seems like an unmodified machine. It's unique in that it's the only other one I have that the standard OS is CP/M-3 (aka CP/M plus). My Visual 1050 is the other. I prefer to run V2.2 on most of my z80 based machines. Allison

25 years, 10 months

FW: Many older computer related and electronic data books FS.

by kyrrin＠my-dejanews.com

Folks, this looks like a good one. Sounds like the fellow's getting rid of a whole bunch of docs that are right up the 'Classic' alley. Check the URL listed in the message itself if you're interested. -=-=- <snip> -=-=- On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 05:55:54 GMT, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc you wrote: >>x-no-archive: yes >> >>I have hundreds of computer-related books for sale for the following computers: >> >> Amiga >> Atari 8-bit >> Apple II series & IIGS >> Commodore 64/128 >> IBM compatible >> TI-99/4A >> >>The majority of my computer books are for IBM and Apple series. There are a >>handful of books for the other computers listed. >> >>I also have a few dozen electronic data books, mostly from the 1980's. I'd be >>happy with $2 or $3 each for most of the data books. >> >>I have a large number of books about DBase III+ and IV books, older releases of >>AutoCAD, and programming languages such as C and Pascal. There are also a >>handful of technical, electronic, physics and math text books. >> >>In general I don't expect a whole lot for old books of any kind, so I'm looking >>for offers in the $1-$5 each range on most, with the exception of some of the >>more valuable reference/text books. >> >>I am trying to sell some of my books because I'm going to be moving >>long-distance in a few months and I need to thin them out. I am trying to >>organize my book list by computer type and sort out the ones I want to keep from >>the ones I want to sell. Unfortunately the list is a bit mixed up at this point, >>but if you have a little patience you can use your browser to search through it. >>Then make offers on anything that interests you and I'll let you know if I will >>sell it for that. >> >>A word of warning: Most of my stuff is at least 5 years old, so if you are >>looking for new or cutting edge stuff, I probably won't have it. If you >>are looking for rare, older stuff, I might have it. Check out my web >>page for lists and details at: >> >> http://www.silcom.com/~tiger >> >>The email address provided above is invalid to discourage spam. My real email >>address can be found on my web page. Thank you. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech [dot] com Web: http://www.bluefeathertech.com "...No matter how we may wish otherwise, our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own human terms. It cannot possibly define any of them..."

25 years, 10 months

Intel 4004

by joe＠barrera.org

I'm petrified you wood bring this up again, Doug... ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug <doug(a)blinkenlights.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 8:19 PM Subject: Re: Intel 4004 >So, where were you during the wooden laptop pun fest? I was waiting for >the one about counting the rings instead of using date codes for wood >chips. > >-- Doug > >On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Andrew Davie wrote: > >> "Would you like 4004s with that?" >> A >> -- >> >> PS: It's a pun. Here in Australia, fries are actually called "chips".

25 years, 10 months

OT: Care and feeding of vacuum tube electronics?

by roblwill＠usaor.net

> >And while an audio amplifier performs a very simple analogue computing >function, I still think it's mildly off-topic. NOTE : I am not flaming >anyone for going off-topic, just stating what I think the boundary should be. > Well, I can relate it in one way to classic computing. I've got an ancient Bell (late 40's) tube amp connected to an old ad-lib card in my 1985 IBM 5170 so I can get better sound than with the teeny 2" speaker that came with the card (yes - it has a mono output). -- -Jason Willgruber (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#: 1730318 <http://members.tripod.com/general_1>

25 years, 10 months

Intel 4004

by adavie＠mad.scientist.com

"Would you like 4004s with that?" A -- PS: It's a pun. Here in Australia, fries are actually called "chips". -----Original Message----- From: Doug <doug(a)blinkenlights.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Intel 4004 >On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, David Freibrun wrote: > >> You have an Intel 4004? Where did you obtain this? > >Everybody in the Valley has a bunch of them, David. We get them at Fry's. > >-- Doug > >

25 years, 10 months

New find: Calculo Analog Computer Kit

by jimw＠agora.rdrop.com

A new addition to the collection, but missing the documentation... a 'Calculo Analog Computer Kit' from 'The Science Materials Center: a division of the Library of Science' in New York. The box indicates that the unit was copyrighted in 1959. Made up of a couple of lever switches, three potentiometers, a meter, and a pair of flashlight batterys. Looks like the docs probably detailed assembly notes, principles of operation, and expirements. Anyone familiar with this critter, and perhaps have a copy of the manuals for it? (pictures soon) -jim --- jimw(a)agora.rdrop.com The Computer Garage - http://www.rdrop.com/~jimw Computer Garage Fax - (503) 646-0174

25 years, 10 months

question about a tandy 1000/Graphics

by roblwill＠usaor.net

-----Original Message----- From: Ward D. Griffiths III <gram(a)cnct.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 12:35 PM Subject: RE: question about a tandy 1000 >The original Tandy 1000, 1000HD and a couple of others didn't have >the DOS ROM, that was added a couple of years into the history of >the product line. But any stock 360k MS-DOS will work, though >there were a few utilities unique to the 1000 on the official >version. But every Radio Shack store is supposed to have a CD >that can be used to recreate old Tandy DOS, Setup and utility >disks for any of the Tandy PC compatibles -- this of course leaves >out the Tandy 2000 and any of Tandy's real computers. > They are? They told me I had to special-order disks from RS-Unlimited for $10 each. >Where do we suddenly get two people in one day with attached >graphics? And the one _must_ have been reading this list for a >while, he'd copied a quote that I composed while listening to the >song I took it from. And you don't find Michael Longcor tapes at >your local Sam Goody's. He was probably using a HTML-compatible compatible (such as IE) to read the mail, and just hit "reply". It's the sidebar stationary image file. -- -Jason Willgruber (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#: 1730318 <http://members.tripod.com/general_1>

25 years, 10 months

question about a tandy 1000

by roblwill＠usaor.net

-----Original Message----- From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)ncal.verio.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 12:33 PM Subject: RE: question about a tandy 1000 > >I believe only the Tandy 1000HX had DOS 2.11 in ROM. All other T1000's do >not. > The TL series had DOS 3.x and part of DeskMate in ROM. -- -Jason Willgruber (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#: 1730318 <http://members.tripod.com/general_1>

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