test-drb February 1999

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E-Over Pay strikes again! original Altair disk sells for $102.50!

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

At 10:29 AM 2/10/99 -0800, you wrote: >On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Joe wrote: > >> No, don't say excellant condition, just say unknown condition. That way >> no one can say that you ripped them off. >> >> Just remember that they're hard sectored disks with 10 sectors. I just >> found a box of them in a surplus store a couple of days ago. > >Yeah, but will anyone really notice? Ok, I'll punch a few extra holes >here and there. LOL! that should do it! Joe

25 years, 10 months

OT: Nasty Hangnail; Cuban Cigarettes; Caberet Voltaire and KISS?

by Philip.Belben＠pgen.com

>> 3. I've heard rumors that Cabaret Voltaire and KISS are going on tour > > KISS = the original HP10, yes? Can't think of any reason the take that > machine anywere.... Eh? Wasn't KISS a German home computer? Or am I quite round the twist? ISTR it had a programming language based on Deutsch in much the same way as BASIC is based on English? Anyone else hear of this machine? (I expect I'll now find that Hans has one or something?) Philip.

25 years, 10 months

Picture of Old-Dead Macs

by todd.osborne＠barnstormer-software.com

This is going to seem like an odd request, but I am doing a presentation which will include some "bad apples". You know, the human kind. But, to add some humor, I would like to find a picture of some really trashed, or a pile of trashed, old Apple computers. I don't know where to find this, and you guys have always amazed me at what you were able to locate, so I am hopeful you can provide a link. Thanks! Todd Osborne Senior Software Engineer FMStrategies, Inc. http://www.fmstrategies.com/ -------------------------------------------------------- FMStrategies, Inc: tosborne(a)fmstrategies.com Internet E-Mail: todd.osborne(a)barnstormer-software.com -------------------------------------------------------- Founder of the Virtual Windows Class Library (C++) http://www.barnstormer-software.com/vwcl/ -------------------------------------------------------- Anagrams? (http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/) Can you figure out this one? Want the answer? E-Mail me. COCO VERDI MOM (Hint: Think Late 1970's Computer) -------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "The timid die just like the daring, and if you don't take the plunge then you'll just take the fall" - Michael Longcor

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Picture of Old-Dead Macs

by jlwest＠tseinc.com

There used to be some great pictures of dead apples (the machine variety) at a place called "murphy's junkyard" or "Murhpy's surplus" on the web. Not sure of the exact name, but search on the web for murphy's junk or surplus and you'll find the site. Jay West -----Original Message----- From: Todd Osborne <todd.osborne(a)barnstormer-software.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Thursday, February 11, 1999 11:53 AM Subject: Picture of Old-Dead Macs >This is going to seem like an odd request, but I am doing a presentation >which will include some "bad apples". You know, the human kind. But, to add >some humor, I would like to find a picture of some really trashed, or a pile >of trashed, old Apple computers. I don't know where to find this, and you >guys have always amazed me at what you were able to locate, so I am hopeful >you can provide a link. Thanks! > >Todd Osborne >Senior Software Engineer >FMStrategies, Inc. >http://www.fmstrategies.com/ >-------------------------------------------------------- >FMStrategies, Inc: tosborne(a)fmstrategies.com >Internet E-Mail: todd.osborne(a)barnstormer-software.com >-------------------------------------------------------- >Founder of the Virtual Windows Class Library (C++) >http://www.barnstormer-software.com/vwcl/ >-------------------------------------------------------- >Anagrams? (http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/) >Can you figure out this one? Want the answer? E-Mail me. >COCO VERDI MOM (Hint: Think Late 1970's Computer) >-------------------------------------------------------- >Quote: >"The timid die just like the daring, and if you don't take the plunge then >you'll just take the fall" - Michael Longcor > >

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E-Over Pay strikes again! original Altair disk sells for $102.50!

by joe＠barrera.org

>With all due respect to your employer, Joe, I'm imagining being >violently ill. So just exactly how much respect *is* "all due respect" in this case? :-) - Joe

25 years, 10 months

C128 (was: some finds...)

by lfb107＠psu.edu

At 06:46 AM 2/10/99 -0800, Cameron Kaiser wrote: >::I haven't seen the FAQ in ages but I think most DCR's actually shipped with >::16k of Video Ram, thus "cost reduced." The 64k units were called something >::else. My 128dCR has 16k. : ( > >Are you sure you have a DCR then? The shell should be metal. All the DCRs I've >seen have 64K. > >Also check your board. You should have the HMOS SID (CSG 8580), and the -03 >(I think) ROMs. Yup, case is metal and it even has stamped on the boards. Les

25 years, 10 months

Recent aquisitions

by steverob＠hotoffice.com

On Friday, February 12, 1999 12:10 AM, Sean 'Captain Napalm' Conner [SMTP:spc@armigeron.com] wrote: > > This past weekend was the annual Miami Hamboree, a show for amatuer ham > radio enthusiasts, although they have equipment other than just radio stuff, > like computer stuff! > > There's two main rooms for mainstream companies and two other rooms with a > flea market feel, with long tables and good deals if you know how to haggle. > Sean, I also went to the Hamboree and was real impressed at how much electronic "stuff" was there. I didn't see too many interesting computer items but, I did come home with a real clean Kaypro II and a Compaq luggable. Including admission and lunch, I spent less than $40.00... Not a bad day. Steve Robertson - <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>

25 years, 10 months

E-Over Pay strikes again! original Altair disk sells for

by dougdu＠MICROSOFT.com

Not true! Altair Mini-Disk BASIC was distributed on 5 1/4" hard-sectored disks with 16 sectors (not 10). The MITS controller consisted of two S-100 cards that was mostly TTL (nothing fancy like a 1771). - Doug > -----Original Message----- > From: allisonp(a)world.std.com [mailto:allisonp@world.std.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 7:22 PM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Re: E-Over Pay strikes again! original Altair disk sells for > > > > < Just remember that they're hard sectored disks with 10 > sectors. I just > <found a box of them in a surplus store a couple of days ago. > > Apple or PCC/altair minifloppy? if yes then wrong. They > were both soft > sectored. It was the 8" altair disks that were hard sectored > and it was 26 sectors if memory hasn't lost a bit. Somewhere in the > junkbox is a Pertec minifloppy controller for s100 that how I know, > it's 1771 based. > > > 10 sector was most commonly Northstar* MDS. > > Allison >

25 years, 10 months

Sun Keyboards -> AT / PS2?

by grant＠anachronism.sol.co.uk

Any ideas where to find info on the data format? ---------- > From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Sun Keyboards -> AT / PS2? > Date: 10 February 1999 19:22 > > > > > Is it possible to connect a AT/PS2 keyboard to Sun3/80's? > > Two answers : > > 1) No, the data format/protocol is totally different > > 2) Yes, anything can be linked to anything. But it would take (at least) > a microcontroller to do it. > > Which applies depends on who you are :-) > > -tony >

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E-Over Pay strikes again! original Altair disk sells for $102.50!

by allisonp＠world.std.com

<Don't forget to do the same thing for VMS source (alpha and vax): < < http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=62831750 <http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=62837222 < <These went for $265.00 and $232.50, respectively. < <Having VMS source would be cool. But were these disks readable? Did they <even have anything on them? Who knows. All the seller knew (said) was: < < Don't know much about this one ... its a four disk set .. < I dont have the books or the box it came in. It says on < each disk "OpenVMS Alpha V7.2 Operating System" then "Source Listings" < <Think of the possibilities. NT Source on CDs... Windows 98 source... use <your imagination. Not on a bet. VMS source would be HUGE, if it were a four disk set it would have to be LS120 or ZIP disks to hold it. Likely same for NT. Allison

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test-drb February 1999