test-drb February 1999

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Winterfest hamfest, Annandale, Virginia Sun. 2/28

by Marty＠itgonline.com

I have an attic full of miscellaneous IBM 3270's, 5150's, HDA's (some large Honeywell, IBM 3380 and other assorted HDA's), Apple ][ Plus, isa pc's, Tandy, Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 4, Non-Linear Systems Kaypro II (these are legion aren't they???), Panasonic Sr. Partner luggable, etc., etc., I'll be bringing to the hamfest for adoption. Paper as well, books, magazines, etc. Some software. The hamfest is the Vienna Winterfest which is usually held at the Vienna, VA community center. However, this year it is being held in the parking lot of Northern Virginia Community College (NOVA) located in Annandale on Route 236 (Little River Turnpike) just west of the capitol beltway. If any list members are planning to attend and have any specific wants, please let me know. Thanks, marty(a)itgonline.com

25 years, 10 months

DUMPSTER ALERT - CAPE GIRARDEAU, MISSOURI AREA

by jlwest＠tseinc.com

Ok folks - several people here had spoken to me about their interest in Prime systems...here's one... The following system is available: Lowboy cabinet ("Rabbit"): Prime 2755 cpu (known to work fine) Full size cabinet: Kennedy 1/2 tape drive (may need minor repair), 770mb disk drive (known to work fine) These two boxes are literally already sitting on the loading dock, the owner will likely accept any token offers. I used to do work for this customer and can vouch that they are in perfect shape except as noted above. Systems will include all manuals, OS tapes, etc. Email me directly for details... Jay West jlwest(a)tseinc.com

25 years, 10 months

Games and classic computers

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

I fired up a couple of my Amiga games, one of which I wish to "clone" using modern hardware called StarGlider. This game was pretty revolutionary in its time as it provided lots of smoothly animated 3D things on the screen at once. In looking at this and browsing my amiga archives I came across a regular Amiga flame war which was held between the Game programmers and the Amiga users. The Game programmers were adamant that you had to "take over the machine" in order to get the necessary performance and there was no way you would ever have something like StarGlider running in real time with some OS back there stealing your cycles. I contrasted that with running Descent FreeSpace on my Win95 machine. It brings into focus the huge changes that have undergone this space in only the last 10 years. Amazing, simply amazing. --Chuck

25 years, 10 months

Okidata 120 (Commodore printer) for free

by max82＠surfree.com

Does anyone in the Boston, MA area want an Okidata 120 printer w/manual? It uses the C-64 serial bus. It worked last time I checked. Thanks. --Max Eskin (max82(a)surfree.com)

25 years, 10 months

OT: Interesting article on predicting the dominance of Linux

by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 11:29 PM 2/15/99 -0800, you wrote: > >Here's an interesting article that makes some very compelling arguments of >why Linux will unseat Windows as the dominant PC-based operating system: Poor imitation, weak logic, even "nexisms" (the neologism I'm inventing for the supposed intellectual validity of AltaVista and Nexis counts) ... sheesh, everybody's trying to be Eric S. Raymond. Check out <http://www.vmware.com/> for software that'll supposedly let you run several OSes at once, including Windows and Linux. As I've often ranted, it's more probable that apps from one OS will be emulated as necessary to various degrees, ranging from CDs of Microsoft- branded Linux, to even better Win32 APIs for Linux, and species in-between. - John

25 years, 10 months

OT: Interesting article on predicting the dominance of Linux

by dastar＠ncal.verio.com

Here's an interesting article that makes some very compelling arguments of why Linux will unseat Windows as the dominant PC-based operating system: http://x14.dejanews.com/[ST_rn=qs]/getdoc.xp?AN=432897831&CONTEXT=919146928… (This is a DejaNews URL) Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Always hasslin' the man. Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0 See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! [Last web site update: 02/15/99]

25 years, 10 months

Floppy/Parallel Ports

by edick＠idcomm.com

This may well have been the case. It happens that Microcmputer Systems Corp. which later became XEBEC (remember them???) put out their first microwinchester disk interface for a 5 mbps drive with up to 16 heads interfaced via HPIB. It was purported to be compatible with HP machines. It happens I've got one of these early controllers, which has never been used, if anyone's interested. Dick ---------- > From: Philip.Belben(a)pgen.com > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: Floppy/Parallel Ports > Date: Monday, February 15, 1999 10:17 PM > > > > > > Does anyone know of any early (pre-1990) computers, other than the early > > Toshibas, that used the parallel port to access an external floppy drive > > (or other external storage device)? Thanks! > > > (-: Roger, that's a very foolish thing to say on Classiccmp. For startres: > > An "Early" computer does _not_ mean "pre-1990". More like "pre-1960". > > Lots of pre-1990 machines used a parallel port to talk to floppy disk > drives. HP and Commodore machines used HPIB/GPIB for example. And yes, > that was the printer port on those machines too. > > Need I go on? > > Philip. :-) > > (I think someone else has already given a sensible answer, so I have no > qualms about posting the above) > > > >

25 years, 10 months

Adam parts

by manney＠hmcltd.net

Does anyone have any ADAM joysticks and/or software? ...or any commercial source for them? What to you suppose would happen if I called up Coleco? manney

25 years, 10 months

Hi, my current projects

by mikeford＠netwiz.net

I found this list just a few days ago, I hope it is fairly active since I have a handfull of classic systems I am working on. Unisys 386sx microtower, this is a tiny computer (about 2/3 the size of a small desktop) and too cute to leave in the scrap heap I found it in. It is the former property of United California Bank, and has some motherboard memory stripped and I think the hard drive. Three IBM PS/2 model 30's, that wish to have parts comingled so that they might live on as one complete functioning computer. 386 and 387 chips and even memory are intact on one, but for reasons I don't know that unit has the power supply disconnected from the motherboard. I plan to apply some AC soon to see whats what. HP Vectra 466 / 66M, missing drives, some cables, but boots to diagnostic screen fine. Various Apple and Mac items that I generally understand. (Apple IIc, IIc+, IIgs, etc.)

25 years, 10 months

Books

by Philip.Belben＠PowerTech.co.uk

This is posted to two lists, apologies to those (Tony) who get it twice. The library here at Power Tech is throwing out some old books. I got a few, including the odd duplicate of things I'm often asked about, but there are many more, all to go in the skip by the end of the week unless rescued. I intend to keep the Mech. eng. handbook, but the others I will send to anyone who can demonstrate a need (such as "I have a box full of TRAM boards but no programming info") for the cost of shipping (I am in Coalville, England). Oh yes. Raeto West's book (I already have it) is about the best book on the PET you could hope to get. Here's the list: Baumeister, Marks, "Standard Handbook for Mechanical Engineers", 7th edn, McGraw Hill 1967 Dunn S, Morgan V, "The PET Personal Computer for Beginners", Prentice Hall, 1981 Osborne A, Donahue C S, "PET/CBM Personal Computer Guide" 2nd edn., McGraw Hill, 1980 West R C, "Programming the PET/CBM", Level, 1982 Eggebrecht L C, "Interfacing to the IBM Personal Computer", H W Sams, 1983 Brodie L, "Starting FORTH", Prentice Hall, 1981 Brodie L, "Thinking FORTH", Prentice Hall, 1984 Jones G, Goldsmith M, "Programming in Occam 2", Prentice Hall, 1988 Berry P, "Sharp APL Reference Manual", I P Sharp, 1979 Gilman L, Rose A J, "APL - an Interactive Approach", 2nd edn, 1976 Philip.

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test-drb February 1999