<>*sigh* Don Maslin just sent me the boot disk for my kaypro, and I find th
<>teledisk 2.12 doesn't like the floppy controller on my p2/300. I know th
<>floppy itself works, I formatted a 360k floppy on it, wrote data to it, re
<>it back, works fine under win95.
W95 may be part of the problem. Also The boot disk may be wrong for your
kaypro! There were many models and a bunch of rom upgrades.
Allison
Have a bunch of working 5.25" full and half height drives, ESDI type, in
working order to sell. Many of them are half height Seagate 89 mb and I
have a few Maxtor 170 mb full height. Can be sold with or without
contoller, which are mostly Seagate. Cables will be included with the
full setups. These are AT controllers and will work in any machine with
16 bit ISA slots. You only need to set your CMOS to drive type 1 and the
rest is done by the controller and drive.
89mb drive $8.50 plus ship
170 mb drive $12 plus ship
Add $6 to either for controller and cables
For those that want 2 drives and controller I'll go the price of 2
drives and include the controller free, with cables for 2 drives.
Email me direct (not on the list) if interested. I really don't want to
move this stuff come summer. Shipping will be by USPS parcel post from
40144 to you, insurance optional. USA and APO/FPO only.
I have lots of vintage Silicon Graphics hard to find boards, O/S's, software, hard drives, tape drives, CD's, memory, systems and documentation, Los Angeles area. If its vintage SGI, I have it. I will trade, buy and sell it. File and media conversion for free. mikeparadiso(a)worldnet.att.net or call 323 462-5772
< In a thrift-shop I picked up a copy of of a DEC Installing and Using the V
<terminal. Later I ran across the machine itself with K-B at the main store.
<passed it by at the time since I had acquired a bunch of other equipment an
<couldn't handle it.
< It was only $15 , but I'm rapidly running out of space. Is it worthwhile g
<back for it ? Or is it fairly common and easily available ?
Collectable, no. DEC made a lot of them. It is however a good terminal
with excellent VT52/100/220 emulations. For 15$ if it's clean a good deal.
Lat year I gave a dozen away.
Allison
It's unlikely I'll do that, since of the many hundreds of boxes of 8"
diskettes I owned at one time, there were only two of the hard-sectored
ones. I recently had a local NRC contractor phone me up after a long chain
of referrals, to inquire whether I could replace a drive for them and I had
to ask them to provide me with a disketted with which to test the drives.
I believe I had one partial box of Memorex diskettes which came with an old
NBI word processor which used Memorex drives and an i8008, which , by the
way, is now a "high-tech tie-tack" I occasionally wear. There was also an
odd box (possibly new, possibly full) of 10-sector hard-sectored diskettes.
I don't know what their use was, but I had some GSI/Siemens drives which
could operate with either type and soft-sectored ones as well.
In the unlikely event these turn up, I'll let you know.
regards,
Dick
----------
> From: Merle K. Peirce <at258(a)osfn.org>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: update to "here's the list..."
> Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 7:34 AM
>
>
> All Alaimo at Computers and More in Marlborough, MA had some new disks
> awhile back. I'm sure he'd love to sell you all he has. They were
> pretty reasonable.
>
> On Sun, 21 Feb 1999, Joe wrote:
>
> > At 07:48 PM 2/20/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> >
> > >sadly, had to be tossed with the other 50K or so 8" diskettes I have
> > >ditched over the past year.
> >
> > Dick,
> >
> > If you come across ANY hard sectored floppy disks I could use them..
I
> > have several systems that used the hard sectored ones but they're hard
to
> > come by. If you don't want to take time to sort them, I'll take the
whole
> > lot and sort them and pass the soft sectored ones on to someone else.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >PICEON 64K DRAM board
> >
> > OH! I can use this! I have one on my Alpha Micro and I could use
another.
> >
> > >>
> > >> Processor Technology "CUTS" cassette interface? board
> >
> > I won't mind having this.
> > >>
> > >> BIOTECH ELECTRONICS BCT800 graphics board - uses AMI 68047 chip and
12
> > >2114's to produce 256x192 graphics and text.
> >
> > I'd like to have this.
> > >>
> > >> Cromemco Dazzler video graphics board pair - There are two, but only
one
> > >set of doc's and software including paper tape.
> > >>
> >
> > I hope you have my name on one of these. I'll make copies of the
manual
> > and disks to go with the other board.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> M. K. Peirce
> Rhode Island Computer Museum, Inc.
> 215 Shady Lea Road,
> North Kingstown, RI 02852
>
> "Cast est qui nemo rogavit."
>
> - Ovid
<Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember that most programs such as
<teledisk will not work reliably with anything faster than a 486/33. I
<know I've been keeping my eye open for a nice _small_ system that is a
<486/33 or slower and can still run Linux and be connected to a network for
<just this purpose.
Last time I used it it was on a 486dx2/66 and it worked fine. It may have
been more controller related than cpu as there isn't much majik in the code.
Allison
<Didn't the Kaypro use 1K sectors? ...and why do I have the impression tha
No unless you were using the Advent turborom.
<the Kaypro had a WD 1770 or 1772 (28-pin) FDC on it? I used to swap disks
<with the AMPRO which was like this all the time. It's been a long time
<though . . .
The part used was a 1793 or the same part with a japanese part number(8873
I think).
Allison
I have 4 boards that go to IBM PS/2 model 70-386's, the 25 mhz version
to find homes for. These are the smaller processor board that mount to
J1 and J2 on the base motherboard and has the 80386DX-25 on it and has
the socket for the 80387DX-25. If you have a bad machine, or just need a
standard Intel 80386DX-25 chip, then this is for you!
The picture listed at
http://www.pc.ibm.com:80/bookmgr/pictures/s52g9971-picture-77-zoom.gif
shows the layout of the entire board and the ones I have are the small
board that #6 points to. The standoffs to mount the board are NOT
included. All have been tested with and without a 387 math processor and
function great.
How much? $5.00 each plus a few dollars shipping. They don't weigh much
so I imagine they should ship cheap. USA ad APO/FPO addresses only,
payable by either money order or cash (if you trust the mail that much).
If someone wants ALL FOUR right off the bat then I can go $16 for all of
them, plus a still small shipping fee. Drop me a note by direct email
and please include your zip code so I can guess-timate shipping. My
guess is probably $2 will get one of these to most places in the lower
48.
Russ Blakeman
Harned, KY USA
>>but I have the idea of taking one of them and
>>replacing the guts with a standard PC motherboard/hd/ram/power supply
>
> That's sacraledge!
I know, you're right. That's why I want two. ;-)
I'll let you know if I come up with an 802H. Do you know if it looks the
same as the 803? I'm really into the nostalgia value of having a machine
that has that distinctive 803/1603 styling.
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted: TeleVideo CP/M machine(s)
>Hi Doug,
>
> I'm looking for one also. I'd LIKE to find an 802H. I just got a complete
>set of docs including the service manual.
>
>>may turn into a crazy project, but I have the idea of taking one of them
and
>>replacing the guts with a standard PC motherboard/hd/ram/power supply
>
> That's sacraledge!
>
> Joe
>
>At 08:01 PM 2/20/99 -0800, you wrote:
>>Greetings,
>>
>>I'm looking for a TeleVideo CP/M machine, particularly the TS-803 or
>>TS-1603. If you have one of these computers, or one similar to this one
>>(not including the portable), I'd be interesting in buying it. Or, if you
>>have suggestions on where else I might look for one, I'd really appreciate
>>it. These were great machines, but they're hard to find now!
>>
>>Actually, I may be interested in two of these, if they're available. This
>>may turn into a crazy project, but I have the idea of taking one of them
and
>>replacing the guts with a standard PC motherboard/hd/ram/power supply
>>combination to run Linux on it. The TeleVideo 803/1603 has a unique case,
>>which would make for a great looking computer even today. The trick would
>>be maitaining compatibility with the keyboard cable and monitor; not to
>>mention fitting the components inside reliably. But what a coup it would
>>be!
>>
>>Thanks. I'm in the Seattle area, fwiw.
>>
>>
>>Doug Auerbach
>>
>>
>>
>
There's a fair amount of documentation the corresponding software to which,
sadly, had to be tossed with the other 50K or so 8" diskettes I have
ditched over the past year. I'll list that later, but here are some
additions to the S-100 hardware list. Subsequent versions of this list
will appear similarly updated, i.e. new additions separately, but the
complete previous listing integrated.
additional S-100 items as of 19:20 on 2/20/99
Industrial Micro Systems Z80A CPU Board - no provision for a PROM
Industrial Micro Systems 64K DRAM board
Industrial Micro Systems I/O card with two UARTS, 1 8255 PIA, 1 8253 TIMER,
PROM designated SA1000
{BTW - there's also an 8" hard disk with an SA1000-compatible controller on
it, propbably compatible with the above.}
JADE Memory Bank 64K DRAM board
PICEON 64K DRAM board
SD SYSTEMS SBC 100 CPU Board
SD SYSTEMS SBC 200 CPU Board
SD SYSTEMS Expandoram 64K DRAM Board
SD SYSTEMS Expandoram II 64K DRAM Board
SD SYSTEMS Expandoram II 64K DRAM Board
Solid State Music VB1B video board - missing crystal
TEI I/O Board with 8253 timer, 3 8251's, 1 8255
Morrow Thinker Toys "Switchboard" Serial/Parallel I/O board - with doc's
Cromemco D + 7A analog and digital I/O board with doc's
in addition to the S-100 stuff, there are numerous 4-and 9-slot Multibus I
cardcages and several memory boards, floppy and hard disk interface cards,
and a few iSBC's I don't intend to keep.
for the Apple-][ lovers, there are a couple of complete computers and a
number of cards not yet listed but soon to come. There's also a fair
amount of software, mostly for the ][+ with the Z80 card, including, I
believe, COBOL, FORTRAN, PL-1, BASIC, BASCOM, among others, based on the
documentation I've found.
> From: Richard Erlacher <edick(a)idcomm.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: here's the list . . .
> Date: Saturday, February 20, 1999 4:43 PM
>
> Here's the list of S-100 hardware I've turned up in the last mess of
boxes,
> etc to be unearthed in my basement and transferred to open air storage in
> my carport. This is only a partial list of what I've uncovered this
> afternoon, and an extended list will be available later today.
>
> There is other stuff, not yet inventoried, but that will be later, if at
> all.
>
> Cromemco 21-slot unterminated Motherboard in VECTOR cardcage - assembled
> but never used.
>
> MSC (later became XEBEC) 9391 5Mbps HARD DISK controller. This
controller
> is functional and capable of handling 16 or fewer heads at 512-byte or
> 256-byte sector sizes and steps the drive at 3ms per step, which was
> typical back in 1980. This was the one we used most. Some docs
available
>
> XCOMP HDC 2-board set. These are set up for 8" drives only and require
one write the BIOS patch or back end driver oneself.
>
> Franklin Electric 3-UART serial I/O board
>
> DC Hayes Micromodem-100 including documentation and software
>
> SSM IO4 2P+2S I/O Board with documentation. No software was provided
since everyone wrote their own BIOS patches for it.
>
> North Star Z80A CPU card
>
> California Computer Systems 2810 Z80A CPU card, with monitor prom.
> California Computer Systems 2422 FDC for both 8 & 5.25" drives, with
> monitor/boot prom
> California Computer Systems 4-port serial card.
> California Computer Systems 64K DRAM card
>
> Vector Graphics 64K DRAM card
>
> Extended Processing "BURNER, I/O" board - Prom Programmer with UARTS and
PIO not installed.
>
> Processor Technology "CUTS" cassette interface? board
>
> BIOTECH ELECTRONICS BCT800 graphics board - uses AMI 68047 chip and 12
2114's to produce 256x192 graphics and text.
>
> Cromemco Dazzler video graphics board pair - There are two, but only one
set of doc's and software including paper tape.
>
> MITS Modem board - a MITS serial board with a "MODEM BD" rider.
>
