Does anyone has an ALTAIR sticker that they don't need? I'm trying to get
rid of a C64 and would like to get lots of money for it.
Francois
PS: ;)
-----Original Message-----
From: Noel Fields <nfields(a)ix.netcom.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Monday, February 22, 1999 4:01 PM
Subject: Here's an odd item to look at!
>There is an interesting item up for sale on e-bay right now, for all you
>altair collectors. For the life of me, it looks like someone made a
>portable altair 8800.
>
>Is that what it is? Or is this just a part of an altair (I'm curious now!)
>
>Here is the address for those interested..
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=69787811
>
>Noel
>
Hi All,
At 04:21 PM 2/22/99 -0500, William wrote:
>
>As far as actually handling a tube - no they really are not very
>dangerous. If one makes sure to drain any high voltage points (twice for
>each, at least), follow all of the other high voltage advice already given
>(and probably in the FAQ), and do not drop the tube, you will be fine.
>Post 1960 CRTs are actually quite tough and will sustain a great deal of
>physical abuse. When they break, the neck shatters first and lets all the
>air in. The days of the nasty implosions due to no safety glass are gone.
>
There may be safety glass on the front, but the back sure can implode, not
just the neck. I once had a b/w TV CRT face down in a open cardboard box
and something heavy fell on it :-(. That's one way to learn not to put one
into that position again.
-Dave
<> > I am trying to compile a pictoral history of DEC handbooks. The tentati
<>
<> Besides the ones everybody has, I have an early DEC handbook:
<> Digital Logic Handbook, Sept 1960
<>
<> -- Doug
<
<That's got me beat: I've got 1967-68, but nothing older.
I have the clasic...
_introduction to programming_ 1972
I've seen older copies but mine is in good shape.
Others include the ubiquitous:
Small Computer handbook 1973
Pdp-11 peripheral handbook 1973-74
Microcomputer handbook 1976-77
Actually I have a good selection of the late 70s throuth the 80s PDP-11
hardware books.
One set I have it the two volume white books:
LSI-11 Systems Service Manual (for field sevice)
Allison
>Either LSI11/03 or 11/23 CPU card
M7264 or M8186, respectively
>64K RAM (I forget the name - it's the standard M8044 card - is that an
>MSV11?). Maybe more than one on an 11/23 system
MSV11-D was 32KW (64KB) Ram (up to 4 can be used)
>DLV11-J quad serial port (one for the console, 3 for the user)
M8043
>LPV11 printer port
M8027
>IBV11 GPIB interface
Don't remember off-hand... there was no standard RT-11
device handler for it...
>Either RXV11 (RX01 floppy drives), RXV21 (RX02 floppy drives) or RLV11
>(hard disk) controller
RXV11 M7946
RXV21 M8029
RLV11 M8013/M8014 (Q/CD)
>In the far left slot there's a BDV11 boot/terminator card.
M8012
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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My... where *does* the time go? Why, just last month, it seems, I
was posting a similar message to this List:
Saturdak, 27 Februark (dates adjusted to comply with Y-to-K
conversion) 1999 is yats... Yet Another TRW Swapmeet. Any
classiccmpers or others who will be in the Southern California area
on Saturdak the 27th are invited to drop by and try to get some of
the goodies before Marvin and myself scoop them all up.
In Los Angeles, from the 405 (San Diego) freeway, take the
Rosecrans exit west, go one mile to Aviation, turn left (south)
under the Metroline bridge, go south about 1/2 mile... the Event
will be on the west side of Aviation in the southernmost parking
lots of the TRW El Segundo facility.
Time is from 07:30 to 11:30 local, 15:30 to 19:30Z.
I (and Marvin) will occupy spaces J21 and J23, and I will offer
good company and pretty good food to any who wish to join us for an
after-swap Classiccmp get-together. Last time there were eight of
us... the more the merrier.
If you have a few items to exchange for other items, or to sell to
get money to *buy* more items... you are welcome to bring them by
and display them to the Wandering Crowds. Let me know in advance if
you plan on this, so Logistics may be considered.... and so I can get
one up on Marvin in case you have something we both want. ;}
And now back to your Regular List Programming.
Cheerz
John
Friends:
First, let me apologise for the anti-spam message I sent to this
group. I did not properly check the destination address before
sending, and it was inadvertent.
Second, about computer viruses.
Sam Ismail said that he had an article from the LA Times dated
in 1986. I would love to see the article.
Ward D. Griffiths III noted the value of the idea as described in the
book by John Brunner, The Shockwave Rider. It is an excellent
book but, the worm (or virus) issue is ancillary to the plot of the
book. Still, in my paper, Apple Worm (published in the November
1986 issue of Call A.P.P.L.E. magazine - as the cover story), I
make reference to the book.
In this paper, Apple Worm, I provide a detailed design of a virus
program which would operate upon Apple II computers, via the
Hello program mechanism. As far as I know, it is the first such
exposition of the techniques of computer virus writing ever
published, though I am aware of some descriptions of the idea
as far back as 1972. This earliest description is published in the
journal Software: Practice and Experience. There is another
early publication of this nature in the journal Communications of
the ACM, written by Schoch, et al. I do not remember the date of
the article but, I do have a copy. I will do the necessary research
and report the information, if no other person bets me to the punch.
It is very likely that my paper, Apple Worm (written together with the
late James R. Hauser, a former professor of mine at the California
Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo), is a major
influence upon the proliferation of computer viruses at that time. :)
As far as I know, the Brunner text is the first mention of the concept
of a computer virus in the literature, as the paper in Software:
Practice and Experience mention only the game DARWIN, as
played at the AT&T Bell Labs. Interestingly, DARWIN is the source
of motivation for A. K. Dewdney's construction of the game Core
War.
William R. Buckley
-----Original Message-----
From: Ward D. Griffiths III <gram(a)cnct.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: question about viruses
>On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Charles Oblender wrote:
>
>> Could any one point me to a source for the history of viruses and
>> computer worms. I'm doing a recearch paper and I'm looking for sources.
>
>Well, the origin of the words themselves applying to computers is the
>novel _The Shockwave Rider_ by the late John Brunner. Highly
>recommended, though somewhat dated technically now (unavoidable in any
>writing about computers set decades in the future -- and this novel
>was published in 1975).
>
>Other than that, you might try digging through the web pages of some
>of the anti-virus product vendors.
>--
>Ward Griffiths
>"the timid die just like the daring; and if you don't take the plunge then
>you'll just take the fall" Michael Longcor
>
Today I just visited with an old friend that I haven't seen in years and
found out the he's an OLD computer buff. Turns out that he has a house
full of OLD computers. SWTPC, Altair, Alpha Micro, Lisa and more. Today I
picked up a MITs 8" disk drive for the Altair and an Alpha Micro computer.
He's promised me more including another Altair computer and "nearly one of
everything WSWTPC sold".
Does anyone have docs for the Altair 8" drive? I need to find out if
everything is here and how to hook it up. Does anyone have any good URLs
for the Alpha Micro stuff? I don't know what all these cards and stuff
are. There's some very strange looking stuff in it.
Does anyone have any pointers for fixing the power supply in an Apple Lisa?
Joe
I was digging throught the pile of "stuff" from days of old, and find I
have a board-set (S-100) which is a Cromemco (remember them?) Dazzler video
board set. I don't remember using this for anything. What probably
happened is that I read the doc's and determined it was indadequate for my
purpose and set it aside . . . the box (the cardboard box in which it was
pacakged by Cromemco, looks like sh*t but the contents were apparently
unharmed by the passage of 20 years, of which most were spent in the junk
pile.
Is anyone interested?
Dick
Maybe it would be well to send this fellow a spell-checker . . . ?
----------
> From: Don Maslin <donm(a)cts.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Big Board cpm system board (fwd)
> Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 8:52 PM
>
>
> Iredeived the following e-mail today. Anyone interested should reply
> directly to the original sender.
> - don
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 10:40:03 -0600
> From: rick <arger(a)attcanada.net>
> To: donm(a)cts.com
> Subject: Big Board cpm system board
>
> D;
> I have an old "Big Board" cpm computer pcb (unpopulated) that I bought in
> the early '80's (I think), I have docs for it and a flopy controller chip
> for it. Is there anyone who might be interested in this. I'd probably
sell
> it for what I payed for it. Otherwise perhaps it should just be frammed
and
> put up on a wall... ?
> Know anyone who might desire it ?
> R.
>
Hey folks;
I was digging up some HP2000 info for the 13210 controller, but also saw the
following manuals which I probably don't need as they appear 3000 related.
If anyone is in need, they are...
Installation and Service 29425a cabinet
HP3000 series II system service manual
HP3000 series II system installation manual
HP3000 series II system microprogram listing
HP3000 series II microprogramming language description
Maintenance manual 30032B asynchronous terminal controller for HP 3000
Maintenance manual 30115a 9 track NRZI-PE mag tape subsystem for HP3000
CE service handbook for 7911/12/14, CS/80, 7941/45, 9145A
CE service handbook for 300H, 300S, 9144A, 9145A, 35401A, diagnostics
Operators manual 7961b, 7962b, 7963b
Plus manuals for the following terminals:
Microterm Act I, Act IV, Act V, Mime2, Mime340, Ergo2000
Televideo 910
Beehive minibee 4
Hazeltine 1500
Here's the disclaimer - I haven't dug into these manuals in detail, but on
the surface they seem to not apply to my interest areas. If there's one you
want, let me know. If after looking at it more closely I find it is
applicable to 2000/21mx hardware that I have or plan to acquire shortly,
I'll only provide copies not originals.
BTW - still looking for a 2748A/B type paper tape reader, and always 7900a
disc drives!
Jay West
