test-drb January 1999

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"System Software for Soviet Computers" and more...

by svs＠ropnet.ru

G'day, This publication may be of interest to those willing to collect Soviet computers (I never saw it, just found a reference to it in <URL:http://www-db.stanford.edu/pub/gio/paperlist.html>.) 74. Wegner, Peter, J. Nestor, E. Schonberg, S. Smoliar, P.J. Weinberger, G. Wiederhold, and P. Wolcott: System Software for Soviet Computers; FASAC Technical Assessment Report, Science Applications International Corporation, McLean VA, August 1989. Another possible source of information: Charles Babbage Institute of Computer History, National Bureau of Standards collection: <URL:http://www.cbi.umn.edu/inv/nbs3.htm> * ---. Soviet Cybernetics Technology: I. Soviet Cybernetics, 1959- 1962, 1963 Jun. NBS #: 6303048. * ---. Soviet Cybernetics Technology: II. General Characteristics of Several Soviet Computers, 1963 Aug. NBS #: 6303052. * ---. Soviet Cybernetics Technology: III, Programming Elements of the BESM, STRELA, URAL, M-3, and KIEV Computers, 1963 Sep. NBS #: 6326275. * ---. Soviet Cybernetics Technology: V. Soviet Process Control Computers, 1965 Nov. NBS #: 6526276. More: <URL:http://neptune.fedworld.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?waisdocid=1316428519+25+0+…> Chip in the Curtain - Computer Technology in the Soviet Union (1989) <URL:http://neptune.fedworld.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?waisdocid=1316428519+24+0+…> Parallel Processing Research in the Former Soviet Union. (1992) <URL:http://www.icfcst.kiev.ua/FRAME/books-fr.htm> "History Computer Science Books" (images of early Soviet computers are linked from this page) <URL:http://www.alink.net/~avg/tetris.c> A remake of Tetris, with look-n-feel of original version. <URL:http://windoms.sitek.net/~fiks/tetris.zip> "Tetris" for the MK-85 calculator. <URL:http://www.zhurnal.ru/1/maslov.htm> "Early days of Internet in Russia" (I know of an ES-1010 that to this day runs MISS.) <URL:http://kulichki.rambler.ru/moshkow/unixhelp/> Some user documentation on Besta-88. Reportedly, Linux <URL:http://www.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=329737050> and NetBSD were ported to this machine. <URL:http://www.vpti.vladimir.ru/rus/archives/humor/es.html> A piece of folklore about ES-10xx series of machines. These are "almost, but not quite, entirely different" :-) clones of IBM 360 series, except ES-1010, which is a clone of Mitra 225, and emulates IBM 360 instruction set in software (if need arises). <URL:nntp://fido7.mo.dec> <URL:nntp://fido7.ru.bigblue> <URL:nntp://fido7.su.mainframe> <URL:nntp://fido7.zx.spectrum> <URL:nntp://fido7.real.speccy> <URL:nntp://fido7.ru.amiga> These are FidoNet echomail conferences, bidirectionally gatewayed to Usenet. See <URL:http://www.fido7.ru/> for details. -- Sergey Svishchev -- svs{at}ropnet{dot}ru

25 years, 10 months

Honeywell DPS 6 Hard drives

by enigma＠intop.net

I have a Honeywell DPS 6, nice computer, really, but I've got a problem. There is one of these weird fixed disk/removable cartridge drives (yes that is a fixed disk and removable cartridge in one) that has a broken belt that runs between the drive spindle and the motor. It is this weird small v-belt. There is also this large hard drive in another cabinet that connects to the thing using DB37 connectors, IIRC. I'm not sure of how to connect it to the computer, nor do I have the cables. I do know the box runs GCOS6, which from what I hear is a cross between GCOS and Unix. Hooray for me, if I can get it working. Although it is supposedly not y2k compliant, but I think that is just a ploy so Bull can get you to spend money on an upgrade. :-) Any hints or tips or free belts for that thing, or places to get belts for that thing, would be appreciated. Any help on running GCOS6 would be nice, as in how do I get the super user account on it? How do I add users, etc. On a different note, I may start a list for buying and selling old computer stuff, everything but PCs, pretty soon, if interest is good enough. Please email me personally at "enigma(a)intop.net" if you would like to see something like that. Regards, J.S. Havard

25 years, 10 months

Z3 builders

by brett＠xnet.com

I was wandering around the net and found - 4PDT relays with sockets. Price - $2.00 - 24DC coils. Email me to get some while thier hot - er - available 8-) Wasn't it you Derek? BC

25 years, 10 months

Need help on old Tandy stuff -- Allison? Anyone else?

by nerdware＠laidbak.com

Hi, group. I'm going to be putting up my annual exhibit at the local library and I need some help with my facts so I don't screw anything up. I have two display cases to work with. One will be tracing the development of the portable pc, and will include the usual Compaq Sewing Machine, a Compaq III, and a Compaq LTE286; a Kaypro II, an Osborne, a Mac Portable (non- backlit), IBM Convertible, and a Tandy M200 and Pocket Computer. (I'm really trying to get an M100, but all the reporters I know who still use them would rather have their fingers removed first before they'd give 'em up.......) Can anyone give me the original release dates and some tech specs on the 200 and the Pocket? The 200 has the parallel printer card, the external floppy drive, all the books, and several floppies with stuff on them. The Pocket is the original model, and has software, all the docs, the original boxes, the original carrying case, RS-232 interface and the neat little color plotter/printer. Any info, anecdotes, whatever would be greatly appreciated and acknowledged in the display. Thanks. Paul Braun NerdWare -- The History of the PC and the Nerds who brought it to you. nerdware(a)laidbak.com www.laidbak.com/nerdware

25 years, 10 months

vacuum tube computer

by Jgzabol＠aol.com

Hi all, I have recently joined the list, not yet contributed too much, but enjoyed reading quite a bit. My personal preference is older stuff - if it contains integrated circuits, I am not too much interested (with the possible exception of a Cray-1). I did not succeed in finding any serious equipment in vacuum-tube technology. Therefore, I decided to design and build a complete computer with vacuum-tube technology from scratch. A short description of the project is enclosed, for those of you who might be interested. The attachment is best viewed with some straight ASCII editor, like the MS-Editor. Thanks to Hans Franke for a reading of a draft version and constructive comments. BTW, I am located in Munich, Germany. John G. Zabolitzky

25 years, 10 months

Daily Laugh!

by yakowenk＠cs.unc.edu

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Sam Ismail <dastar(a)ncal.verio.com> wrote: ] On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Derek Peschel wrote: ] > I wonder if I can change the configuration so that only subscribed people ] > can send things to the list? Is that really a good idea? ] ] Yes and no. ] Yes because it would eliminate the riff raff postings we get every now and ] then (pet peeve). ] No because its really convenient for me to forward messages I get on a ] different e-mail account (which is not subscribed) from people wanting to ] give away or sell vintage computers. It would be a big pain in the ass if ] I had to first forward the message to my dastar account and then forward ] it from there to ClassicCmp. You could subscribe from that address, and then tell the list processor to postpone sending you anything there, and never cancel the postpone order. I *think* you could still post from that address. Of course, the list processor may eventually explode, holding back all that postponed mail... (Would it actually hold copies of all that, or just drop it?) ] Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ] Always being hassled by the man. ] ] Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0 ] See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! ] [Last web site update: 01/15/99] Cheers, Bill.

25 years, 10 months

Apple 1

by allisonp＠world.std.com

were executed. We had 32K of 2114 1Kx4 SRAMs. Our board performed oddly, <but it still worked. AFAIK, all MC68000 chips work to spec. There were many mask revisions early on to correct microcode bugs. Apparently the microcode was either difficult or very complex contributing to many errors. <Anyone want to buy a vintage 1982, gold and ceramic Motorola MC68000? Mak <offer. Not available in stores. Not found on eBay. I have two. ;)

25 years, 10 months

interesting book

by lemay＠cs.umn.edu

Well well, people throw out the darndest things.. I found a copy of a book by someone named Peter Norton. Looks to me like it may have been his first book. Called 'inside the IBM PC'. His 2 test systems for developing the book were: IBM/PC with 64K standard memory and 512K on a jumbo memory board that he bought as a lark. The jumbo board is populated with 64K chips. he mentions tha this board does provide astonishing improvement in his Pascal programs.. (Duh!). Monochrome monitor. Second system has a Amdek color II monitor, 128K of true blue IBM memory, twin Tandon TM 100-2 diskette drives, and the standard color graphics adapter. Oh yeah, he mentions that he uses teh Jumbo card to simulate a 360K virtual diskette drive ;) He disassembles roms, disusses bios calls, and explains how the cassette tape interface works, among other things. Personally, I think this guy could go far... -Lawrence LeMay

25 years, 10 months

Instant classic

by dastar＠ncal.verio.com

Have you all seen the latest G3 PowerMac on the TV ads? Instant classic! I want one in fact. Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Always being hassled by the man. Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0 See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! [Last web site update: 01/15/99]

25 years, 10 months

Some finds and a few questions

by dlw＠trailingedge.com

I finally had a chance to get out and hit a few thrifts again. I was chained in a studio working on an anime, but I'm free again. Anyway, I found a Xebec Sider harddrive. Was this for the Apple //? Something was loose inside so I checked and found a small rectangle filled with some ceramic like stuff and a wire sticking out of each end inside of the PSU. Can't seem to see anywhere in the power supply where this thing may have come from but also can't see how it could have gotten inside if it didn't belong. Not even sure what it is. Any ideas anyone? Also would like any info on the drive type, size interface, etc. It is a model 9710H. Looks like I can pull the drive from the case and hook up a different PSU. On another note, anyone tell me anything about a handheld unit, I think it was an LK-3000 or some such, I'll have to go back and check. The guy wants $50 for it and also has a Tandy Pocket Computer for $40 I'm thinking of picking up. Other things I grabbed: Odyssey2 in box Coleco Adam in box (damn big box for a home console system) Atari 1040STf (may sell/trade this as I have one and an STfm too) Couple of Apple 5.25" drives Misc software and books For those of you who were interested in the Mattel Aquarius Data Recorders, after two months of no replies to my query on where to drop off the money and pick up the recorders, I have finally given up on them. They said they accepted my offer but then they just fell silent. Guess they found someone else with a better offer. ----- David Williams - Computer Packrat dlw(a)trailingedge.com http://www.trailingedge.com

25 years, 10 months

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