29 Jan
1999
29 Jan
'99
8:59 a.m.
Well well, people throw out the darndest things..
I found a copy of a book by someone named Peter Norton. Looks to me like it
may have been his first book. Called 'inside the IBM PC'.
His 2 test systems for developing the book were:
IBM/PC with 64K standard memory and 512K on a jumbo memory board that
he bought as a lark. The jumbo board is populated with 64K chips.
he mentions tha this board does provide astonishing improvement in
his Pascal programs.. (Duh!). Monochrome monitor.
Second system has a Amdek color II monitor, 128K of true blue IBM memory,
twin Tandon TM 100-2 diskette drives, and the standard color graphics
adapter.
Oh yeah, he mentions that he uses teh Jumbo card to simulate a 360K
virtual diskette drive ;)
He disassembles roms, disusses bios calls, and explains how the cassette
tape interface works, among other things. Personally, I think this
guy could go far...
-Lawrence LeMay
29 Jan
29 Jan
11:46 a.m.
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12:45 p.m.
Well well, people throw out the darndest things..
I found a copy of a book by someone named Peter Norton. Looks to me like it
may have been his first book. Called 'inside the IBM PC'.
Isn't this the well-known pink-shirt book (so called because of the cover
picture).
30 Jan
30 Jan
1:19 a.m.
At 08:45 PM 1/29/99 -0600, you wrote:
Nope, it has a circuitboard as a background, and some horizontal fake
lightning on the cover.
That's his first edition. The second also showed a circuit board but
without the lightning. I remember the pink shirt book it was also PN but I
don't remember exactly what the book was.
Joe
> >
> > Well well, people throw out the darndest things..
> >
> > I found a copy of a book by someone named Peter Norton. Looks to me
like
it
may have been his first book. Called 'inside the
IBM PC'.
Isn't this the well-known pink-shirt book (so called because of the cover
picture).
4:53 a.m.
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29 Jan
29 Jan
9:04 p.m.
On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Lawrence LeMay wrote:
Well well, people throw out the darndest things..
I found a copy of a book by someone named Peter Norton. Looks to me like it
may have been his first book. Called 'inside the IBM PC'.
I found the same book a while back. The pages are falling out, but the
content is good.
This post is probably a good lead-in to the books I dragged home
yesterday. Actually, ten books and one piece of software. It was the
first time I've gone thrifting since before Christmas and it was great to
see that so many interesting books had collected in one place during my
absence.
Too bad all of the computer hardware was thrown out again.
I haven't had time to look it over yet, but the list of stuff is as
follows (listing only title, author, and date):
"Assembly Language Programming for the VAX-11" by Karen A. Lemone and
Martin E. Kaliski, 1983. It was just cool to find something
VAX-related. It looks like it was used as a textbook, and several
pages are highlighted in orange.
"Computer Olympics" by Stephen Manes and Paul Somerson, 1984. Cheap book
printed on acid paper, containing many almost-generic BASIC listings.
Advertises "For the Commodore 64, VIC 20; Apple II, II Plus, IIe; IBM
PC, PCjr; Atari 400, 800, XL Series; Radio Shack Color Computer, and
TI 99/4A" on the cover, and it also includes notes on the Coleco Adam.
Kind of useless, but interesting as a contrast to the current computer
market.
"Making Tracks into Programming" for the TI Programmable 57, Texas
Instruments 1977.
"Microprocessor Data Book 1990/1991" - OKI Semiconductor. Not a classic,
but it's only the second data book I've come across. Includes info
on OKI 8085, 8086, and 8088 variations as well as some other stuff I
don't recognize. One of these days I hope to understand these things.
"PL/I Structured Programming" (2nd edition) by Joan K. Hughes, 1979.
Beginner programming book. Big heavy thing, probably another textbook
(it has a name and what looks like a student ID# in it). I missed some
PL/I stuff a few months back, so this makes up for it a little. (The
other was an actual language reference, though.)
"Programming Your Timex/Sinclair 1000 in BASIC" by Mario Eisenbacher, 1983.
Probably not a book I'll ever use (my TS-1000 is blecherous), but what
the heck, it cost less than a buck.
"TRS-80 Level II BASIC" by Bob Albrecht et. al., 1980. This one should
prove useful as I've only got documentation for Level I BASIC and my
own TRS-80 has Level II in it.
"Turbo Prolog Primer" by Dan Shafer, 1986. I've got an assignment due in
a week that has to be done in Prolog, and had no Prolog text and nobody
to teach it to me. Too bad Prolog doesn't seem to have a standardized
syntax - this book is useless for what I'm doing. :/ At $0.69
Canadian, I'm not going to complain, though. :) (A bunch of students
got together tonight with books from the library and I think we now
know most of what we need to know.)
"Videotex: The New Television/Telephone Information Services" by R.
Woolfe, 1980. This one looks like interesting reading. Quite a few
colour photos from Prestel. A bit of a moral dilemma, though, as the
book appears to have been taken out of a (non-local) university library
in 1991 and not returned.
"Without Me You're Nothing" by Frank Herbert and Max Barnard, 1980.
I just found this one intriguing. I'm not expecting "Dune". :)
I left some generic "Programming the Commodore 64" type books behind.
The software that I picked up yesterday is "Story Maker" for the Apple ][
series, minus the poster that was supposed to come with it. I usually
ignore childrens' software, but I've got so little legitimate stuff for my
8-bits that I thought I should pick it up.
Before Christmas I also found "Typing Tutor IV" for the C64/C128 with the
disk still sealed in its plastic envelope. The paper in the manual is
going yellow, though.
My collection of books is getting to be just as hard to manage as my
computers.
Personally, I think this guy could go far...
:)
-Lawrence LeMay
--
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
http://alcor.concordia.ca/~ds_spenc/
30 Jan
30 Jan
1:11 a.m.
At 06:04 AM 1/30/99 -0500, you wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Lawrence LeMay wrote:
> Well well, people throw out the darndest things..
>
> I found a copy of a book by someone named Peter Norton. Looks to me like it
> may have been his first book. Called 'inside the IBM PC'.
Arrghhh! Now I do feel old! I bought this book when it was new! I
still have both the first, second and third editions.
Joe
4:27 a.m.
On Sat, 30 Jan 1999, Doug Spence wrote:
"Videotex: The New Television/Telephone
Information Services" by R.
Woolfe, 1980. This one looks like interesting reading. Quite a few
colour photos from Prestel. A bit of a moral dilemma, though, as the
book appears to have been taken out of a (non-local) university library
in 1991 and not returned.
I wouldn't have a moral fit over this one. It was more than likely
discarded by the university because of its stale content.
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1 Feb
1 Feb
2:22 a.m.
New subject: NAPLIPS (was: interesting book)
> "Videotex: The New Television/Telephone
Information Services" by R.
> Woolfe, 1980. This one looks like interesting reading. Quite a few
> colour photos from Prestel. A bit of a moral dilemma, though, as the
> book appears to have been taken out of a (non-local) university library
> in 1991 and not returned.
I wouldn't have a moral fit over this one. It was
more than likely
discarded by the university because of its stale content.
Speaking of Prestel (and of course CEPT :) does anybody know
what happend to NAPLIPS (North American Presentation Layer
..???.. Standard - long time ago) - it was a NT (nice try)
to set a properitary US standard agains CEPT/Prestel for
a minitel like online system. Have there been any installations
beyond a demostration ? Or did they only produce enough smoke
to avoide the implementation of an international standard (as
seen with mobile phones, ISDN, etc.) ?
Gruss
H.
BTW. that seams to be an US specific phenomen to fight any
standard, until there is no other choice, or the world is
again splited into two worlds (more than by the French,
where everybody would assume such an atitude).
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
6:29 a.m.
New subject: NAPLIPS (was: interesting book)
"Hans Franke" <Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de> wrote:
Speaking of Prestel (and of course CEPT :) does
anybody know
what happend to NAPLIPS (North American Presentation Layer
..???.. Standard - long time ago) - it was a NT (nice try)
I believe NAPLPS was used by the Prodigy service (classic, not Prodigy
Internet). Of course, Prodigy classic has lost big bucks every year, and they
are finally closing it down. But rather than admitting that it was a stupid
idea, they are blaming the shutdown on the Y2K problem.
It appeared that NAPLPS may also have been used for some children's
entertainment/education channels on cable systems. These channels had
animation that slowly updated, and you could watch things like flood fills
proceed line by line.
NAPLPS used to be an ANSI standard, but a few years ago I saw a notice that
ANSI was withdrawing it. So now you can sell your L@@K RARE K00L copy of
the standard on ePay for thousands of dollars.
30 Jan
30 Jan
1:51 a.m.
Talk about strange things I just purchased the same book Friday for 10 cent
at the thrift here. So it was a good buy after all. John
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Sent: Friday, January 29, 1999 4:59 PM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: interesting book
Well well, people throw out the darndest things..
I found a copy of a book by someone named Peter Norton. Looks to
me like it
may have been his first book. Called 'inside the IBM PC'.
His 2 test systems for developing the book were:
IBM/PC with 64K standard memory and 512K on a jumbo memory board that
he bought as a lark. The jumbo board is populated with 64K chips.
he mentions tha this board does provide astonishing improvement in
his Pascal programs.. (Duh!). Monochrome monitor.
Second system has a Amdek color II monitor, 128K of true blue IBM memory,
twin Tandon TM 100-2 diskette drives, and the standard color graphics
adapter.
Oh yeah, he mentions that he uses teh Jumbo card to simulate a 360K
virtual diskette drive ;)
He disassembles roms, disusses bios calls, and explains how the cassette
tape interface works, among other things. Personally, I think this
guy could go far...
-Lawrence LeMay
1 Feb
1 Feb
2:22 a.m.
Date sent: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 09:51:26 -0600
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From: "John R. Keys Jr." <jrkeys(a)concentric.net>
To: "Discussion re-collecting of classic computers"
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Subject: RE: interesting book
> I found a copy of a book by someone named Peter
Norton. Looks to
> me like it may have been his first book. Called 'inside the IBM PC'.
Duuuuh - guess you are younger than the average list member :)
Talk about strange things I just purchased the same
book Friday for 10 cent
at the thrift here. So it was a good buy after all. John
There are Zillions of copies - I think it could count
as strange not to find at least on on every (technical)
swap meet :)
Servus
Hans
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HRK
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