Hi Allison,
hit the wrong button ?
cheers,
emanuel
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> From: Allison J Parent <allisonp(a)world.std.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: UNIX robustness
> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 4:57 PM
> On the other hand I've seen UNIX pdp-11s run as long as power and
hardware
> was available.
>
> Allison
>
Hi.
The green and copper of a board caught my eye today at the local thrift. At
first, I thought it was a four slot s100 motherboard but on closer
inspection I find the four slots are 86pin and it has a block harness for
Gnd,+5, -12, and +12.
On the back is has: LEE DATA, 60001460 Rev A, WL-10, 31/85.
Anyone know what this is for?
Thanks
- Mike: dogas(a)leading.net
<Allison Parent is probably correct that Ultrix doesn't have as impressive
<a record of robustness as VMS, but there are certainly application-specifi
<cases where the system did pretty well. The collection of MicroVAX II part
<I have at home mostly used to be the University of Toronto's backbone IP
<routers, which ran an early Ultrix (I forget if it was 2.0 or 3.0).
True enough. I've found it more solid than the also rans even on PCs but
compared to VMS it was more difficult to maintain and less tolerent of
faults. VMS was more tolerent of memory page faults(ram parity hits) and
seemed to have less trouble with unplanned/undesired shutdowns.
I suspect for one reason that was true... VMS was older and had more
emphasis so there was maturity plus development effort.
On the other hand I've seen UNIX pdp-11s run as long as power and hardware
was available.
Allison
I have a manual for a Rimfire 6700 disk array subsystem. I also have 2
floppy disks, one 5.25" and one 3.5", each is the Rimfire 6700 Utility
Diskette (copyright 1993).
I also have 2 copies of a disk drive manual, HP 97556/58/60 5.25-inch
SCSI Disk Drives Technical Reference Manual. For whatever reason, these were
printed on pink paper.. These are Edition 2, June 1991
Yours for the asking. You pay shipping at post office book rate.
-Lawrence LeMay
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 John Amirault wrote:
>In order to read a PDF file you need to get " adobe acrobat reader " . Just
>do a net search and you will find all the info you need. Hope this helps you.
>John Amirault
I think the point is that Acrobat Reader is only available for a few platforms,
and if your computer isn't one of those you're stuck. (More or less.)
(If the Alto manuals on the web are scanned, try asking the web page maintainer
to use a standard image format instead.)
-- Mark
Well . . . not to suggest that I'd consider eating that paper snackie . . .
I've seen lots of dollars made with VIC-20's and C-64's, by guys who could
imagine a solution to a problem which could be implemented via the printer
port and a little bit of code. While the things were really plentiful at
the local thrift store, they cost $5 for the computer and $5 for the power
module. It seems to me that the internal bus was sufficiently accessible
without sawing or drilling the case to allow an enteriprising individual to
build custom hardware which harnessed the otherwise wasted ability of one
of these gems, to control a 3-axis milling table, or something on that
order. The first time was probably painful, but I haven't thrown away my
manuals . . .
Dick
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> From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)ncal.verio.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Classic Computer Auctions List
> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 1:52 PM
>
> On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, John Foust wrote:
>
> > At 10:21 PM 1/26/99 -0800, Sam Ismail wrote:
> > >To demonstrate that old
> > >hardware that can be picked up for pennies can be combined to attain
> > >amazing amounts of computing power.
> >
> > Amazing? How many orders of magnitude difference in horsepower
> > between a C-64 and a $600 Best Buy Intel box? Perhaps I'm being
> > unromantic, and I certainly have too many old computers of the
> > XT/AT/486 variety, but I just don't "get" many of these distributed
> > computing projects. (I do leave my spare contemporary computers
> > working for the RC5 project at distributed.net, but that's another
> > story.) Take 10 computers at 1 horse each, and they're still not
> > equal to one contemporary (cheap) computer at 10 horses. Sure,
> > there's hack value in doing it, but mostly for people with too
> > much time on their hands, or for people who aren't paying for the
> > electric bill or the room to put them in. Hack away, sure - but
> > claim they're doing "useful" work?
>
> So when this is pulled off successfully and we demonstrate the value of
> this project, will you eat a print-out of this e-mail (on a standard 8.5
x
> 11 piece of paper) in front of the VCF crowd?
>
> Sellam Alternate e-mail:
dastar(a)siconic.com
>
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> Always being hassled by the man.
>
> Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0
> See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details!
> [Last web site update: 01/15/99]
Sigh. I'm losing my secret storage room where i've been tossing all sorts of
old manuals and such.. So, does anyone need this:
Documentation sets for the SGI Indigo R3000 computer.
Some printer supplies for a Tektronix Phaser III PXi.
We have enough Indy Cameras to sink a ship, but we'll probably keep those
for who knows what reason...
-Lawrence LeMay
Peter Boyle, along with Wayne Wall, at that time, of the Denver Area 6502
users' group, wrote driver routines, perhaps the ones which were used here
to patch the 9511 into the Applesoft basic, for the group's Apple users.
It would surprise me to learn that anyone still has this stuff, but if they
do, you won't find anything much better. He also started on a set of
drivers to go with his XPL0 language for the 6502. I'm not certain whether
that task was ever completed.
The drivers are quite straightforward, due to the device's architecture.
However, as I recall, the patching it into the Applesoft basic was a pain.
-Dick-
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> From: Eric Smith <eric(a)brouhaha.com>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: AMD 9511, 9512, Intel 8231, 8232 wanted, will trade National
MM57109
> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 1:29 PM
>
> Tony wrote:
> > Speaking of which (:-)), does anyone else remember a 9511 card for the
> > Apple ][. I found one in a pile of boards that were being thrown out,
> > along with the manual (including schematic), but without any software.
>
> I used to have one of those years ago. There was a patched version of
> Applesoft BASIC that would use it. I'm not sure what other software was
> written for it.
>BTW - I have, somewhere in the basement, the remaining stock
>of Hofacker computer - a (at least in germany) somewhat popular
>publishing company, that sold more than 120 books and hundreds
>of programms thru the early years - Ohio, TRS, Apple or PET - what
>ever - from 1977 until 1984 (?) they also published a magazine.
Oh boy - one of those for the Atari, called 'hackerbook' was
a good referance for writing Atari 8bit device drivers. Sure was fun
to make devices interfaced to the joystick-parallel I/O port
using Hofacker as a guide. It also showed how to make your own
plug in rom carts too, IIRC. Found it in a mall bookstore around
'85.
Chuck
cswiger(a)widomaker.com