I just found an old fax machine in the trash. It has two connectors
on the back: one is a DIN-6 labelled coupler. The other is DIN-8
marked NCU. The question is that I have neither coupler nor 'NCU',
and does anyone have any idea how to wire this thing to a phone line?
Is a coupler necessary, or can I wire the line right into the machine
if I figure out the DIN-5 connector's pinout? This is a PERSONALFAX II
, BTW.
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If the article William is refering to is on the Retro-Computing
Society of RI, go to the Providence Journal home page then do a search
under computers. The article for the Retro museum will be first up in
line.
Marty
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Author: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu at internet
Date: 9/8/98 10:43 AM
> That came up "not found", with and without a trailing "l". Did they move
> the story somewhere?
Sorry, it seems that article has expired. Made me mad, too...
William Donzelli
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Both the Prime systems I have are old 2250s (2044-90 & 901). I havn't looked
at the cards but one is a low cabinet with CPU and Hard drive. The other is
two low cabinets, the second holding a 1" Cipher Tape drive. Is there any
interest in them or parts from them. Unless someone is interested they are a
week or two from becoming parts & scrap. I am closing my warehouse shortly and
need to get rid of them. If you have more questions or interest in them
contact me directly at
Innfograph(a)aol.com
Thanks for your interest,
Paxton Hoag
> I was going thru a bunch of old material and I ran across this IBM
> manual that I had squirrelled away from a garbage find in the early 80s
> that also included a bunch of Bytes. It's a 6th edition (Mar 79) and says it
> applies to Release 4 of OS/VS1, Release 3 of OS/VS2 ,Release 2 of VM/370,
> DOS/VSE, and all other releases
> A descrptive heading says "This manual describes the OS/VS -DOS/VSE-
> VM/370 assembler language. It's a 450 page XEROXed copy.
> I know ziltch about non-micros and am wondering if this is of any value
> (in the intellectual sense) ?
/360, /370 ASSM is an brilliant example how simple, clear
and beautiful a (CISC) processor can be. I know now other
assembler so simple, so strikt and easy to implement (and
I'm still an Assm programmer since 20 years).
With exraordinary simple thinking one can easy develop all
stages of an execution pipline for this opcode. Staight
forward. Did I say develop ? There is noting to develop -
reading the opcodes is like reading a step by step instruction
to build the CPU.
Ok, maybe I'm overemphasing, but I love this structure.
I did almost any microprocessor (from 1802 to 9900 and Z80)
in the past 20 years, and some of the bigger architectures,
but none equals the /370.
So, if you want to have fun, take the OP-Code table and
solve the puzzle - or just keep the manual for 'real world'
tasks, since this Assm is still valid for IBM (and compatible)
Mainframes. I bet your taxes are calculated on one of 'em.
Gruss
H.
P.S.:
I did several interpreters for micros - first on the KIM :).
P.P.S.:
Shure there have been some realy genieous extensions to the
/370 architecture (like maybe the stack engine in the SIEMENS
X calss CPUs), beautiful and powerfull themself, but they are
still don't met the elegance of the basic instruction set.
P.P.P.S.:
And of course there are several good Microprcessors - but again:
not as elegant, simple and beautifull than the /370.
--
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HRK
>> I think the Computer Journal folk also have Kaypro parts and docs...
> Was someone looking for Commie schematics? Sams has a ton of them from the
> Vic20 through the Amiga 500. Not sure how cost effective it might be to spend
> the $$$ on a schematic for a $20 machine thoough.
Maybe pure fun ? I just recently browsed the KIM Manuals :)
But USD 20 ? Expensive box huh ?
Gruss
H.
BTW:
Anybody willing to host some 100 MB of
scans ? While browsing I just decided
to scan the KIM-1 USER MANUAL.
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
Well, the C64 had a schematic in the reference manual, as did the
Apple ][. I would be willing to photocopy either.
>>> Was someone looking for Commie schematics? Sams has a
>>> ton of them from the Vic20 through the Amiga 500. Not sure how
>>> cost effective it might be to spend the $$$ on a schematic for a
>>> $20 machine thoough.
>
>So, what's the deal with copyright on schematics? If someone can sell
>them and make money out of them, is there any reason why they can't be
>scanned and put on the 'net for free? Or do companies that sell such
>information pay royalties for every schematic sold or something??
>
>Jules
>>
>
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Who does not remember the 'teletype' art, which was made by
people during the night shift?
I'm looking for these drawings. So if you have one (ore more)
of them please feel free to email them to me directly, unless
you want to please other readers as well...
Thanks,
Ed
P.S. can somebody help me with a 'chat' container or knows
an address where to get one?
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