test-drb September 1998

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Web Standards Project (Off-topic but useful)

by dastar＠ncal.verio.com

I wanted to share with you guys what I learned last night at a meeting of the Web Guild (affiliated with the Association of Internet Professionals). Basically a SIG for web development. The speakers introduced the audience to the Web Standards Project, which is an effort to force web browser vendors to confirm to ONE (and only one) standard so that the web isn't such a kludge. Check out the whole deal at http://www.webstandards.org. Its very promising. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ever onward. September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details! [Last web site update: 09/12/98]

26 years, 3 months

Rare Find

by roblwill＠usaor.net

Sounds like some type of terminal. -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318 ---------- > From: John R. Keys, Jr. <jrkeys(a)concentric.net> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Rare Find > Date: Thursday, September 17, 1998 7:22 PM > > I have not been posting my latest finds because most are not that rare but > yesterday I got Japanese monitor for $5 that is made of wood. The casing is > wood shaped like the new iMac believe it or not but smaller. It has gold > plated trim around the screen. uses 220v only and has a 9pin mono connector. > The name on it in English is Intech Systems model CP2054B SN 1002. It has a > RS232 serial port, a Centronics 8 Bit Parallel port and is in good shape. I > can not read the Japanese writing on the front or back of it. If anyone has > anymore info on it I'd like to hear it. John >

26 years, 3 months

Printronix Info #2

by jpl15＠netcom.com

Hello to All.. Thank you so much for the various respomses to my P 300 inquiry. In doing some research, I discovered several sites with info, but nothing specific about this model, other than someone here in SoCal who has several of them for sale ($500..... not!). I have a call in to see if they might have docs and, now that I know such a thing exists.... an RS232 or Centronics I/O card. I would like to re-iterate my previous request, though... I am interested in buying, trading, copying, or otherwise acquiring a nice set of manuals for this printer.. engineering, user, etc. I like to have the docs for stuff... it cuts down on the guess-work when they break. ;) Thanks again for all the other info... and especial regards to the individual who took the time to FAX me some critical material on VMS magtape issues... taken from an important book I don't have. Yet. I am further interested in getting a VMS 5.x Grey Wall. Purchase/ship/trade/whatever. Cheers John

26 years, 3 months

Rare Find

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

I have not been posting my latest finds because most are not that rare but yesterday I got Japanese monitor for $5 that is made of wood. The casing is wood shaped like the new iMac believe it or not but smaller. It has gold plated trim around the screen. uses 220v only and has a 9pin mono connector. The name on it in English is Intech Systems model CP2054B SN 1002. It has a RS232 serial port, a Centronics 8 Bit Parallel port and is in good shape. I can not read the Japanese writing on the front or back of it. If anyone has anymore info on it I'd like to hear it. John

26 years, 3 months

CP/M Disks may be Northstar

by karlm＠blitzen.canberra.edu.au

Hi, I was showing those CP/M disks I found to a friend of mine (also a computer collector), and some of them are marked as being for a Northstar, if anyone is interested in these let me know, I'd like to see them go to a good home. Cheers Karl ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Karl Maftoum Computer Engineering student at the University of Canberra, Australia Email: k.maftoum(a)student.canberra.edu.au

26 years, 3 months

Here's something to consider.

by dastar＠ncal.verio.com

I'm looking thru this June 1977 issue of Byte. Inside I find an ad from Apple on page 14&15. The copy starts "Introducing Apple II", which makes sense as the Apple II was introduced at the West Coast Computer Faire in April 1977, so this ad was probably one of the first for the Apple II. Now, one of the great things about the Apple II was its ability to display color graphics, apparently a big deal at the time, as supposedly no other machine in the home computer class had this capability (save for the S-100 machines with a Cromemco TV Dazzler, but that was an add-on, as opposed to the Apple II's built-in capability). Yet there is another ad on page 61 for the Compucolor 8001. The Compucolor boasts pretty much the same features as the Apple II (64K RAM, cassette storage, built-in BASIC) although it runs on an 8080. However, the Compucolor came with an "integrated display", and featured 160x192, 8-color (vector) graphics (the Apple was capable of 280x192 bit-mapped graphics). The Compucolor also had "mini-disk drives" (I assume 8") available for it separately. The retail price advertised for the Compucolor was $2,750, very comparable with a similarly equipped Apple II. Yet the Apple II is celebrated as having been the first home computer with built-in color graphics, and almost no mention of the Compucolor is ever made in any general computer history texts. The obvious difference between the two is that the Apple II went on to enjoy tremendous success for the next 15+ years while the Compucolor was relegated to an also-ran. The victors do indeed write the history, or at least get the lion's share of the mention. I think its odd that a system such as the Compucolor, extremely comparable to the capabilities of the Apple II (if not more so in some respects) hardly gets mentioned in the computer history books I read. Maybe someone who is cognizant of that era can shed some additional light on this. The lesson of this story is, you can have the best, most amazing product in the world, but "build it and they will come" does not apply. You've got to advertise. Apple was obviously more masterful at this. Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ever onward. September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0 See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details! [Last web site update: 08/25/98]

26 years, 3 months

Apple ][ programmer's reunion

by MPritchard＠EnsembleStudios.com

As someone who was there, I can tell you all it was a blast. :) :) :) The turnout was pretty high and everyone was pleasntly surpised at that. The food was even good! Woz was great form; gratious, humble, and sense of humor fully intact; people brought _all_ manner of Apple hardware for him to sign ;-) So many good people, and the memories just flowed... -Matt Pritchard Graphics Engine and Optimization Specialist MS Age of Empires & Age of Empires ][ > -----Original Message----- > From: SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com [SMTP:SUPRDAVE@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 4:30 PM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Apple ][ programmer's reunion > > www.gamespot.com/features/apple2/index.html

26 years, 3 months

GUIs 'forced' on people (was Re: Here's something to consider.)

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

>a nuisance. I always have at least two DOS windows open under 95 for when And therein lies one of the main reasons I use a GUI (and would have a hard time going back to DOS-only.) Yes, it's possible to run multiple programs/sessions/etc. under a CLI (use to do it with a terminal and a CompuPro 8/16 under MPM16 -- that was a great system!) but a GUI, with the ability to arrange windows, cut and paste, etc. is a definite advantage. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

26 years, 3 months

Printronix Info

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< Might anyone within the sound of my bytes have docs on a < Printronix P 300 line printer? Tech Docs? User's Guide? or at least < the I/O pinouts? Same as data products B300, B600 and LP25/26/27 series. Use DEC LAV-11, LP-11 interfaces. < Also: do any of the big mail-order computer supply houses carry < ribbons for the Decwriters? Not that I couldn't kludge one from < something the same width.... Yes. Allison

26 years, 3 months

Printronix Info

by CLASSICCMP＠timaxp.trailing-edge.com

> Also: do any of the big mail-order computer supply houses carry >ribbons for the Decwriters? Not that I couldn't kludge one from >something the same width.... Have you tried 1-800-DIGITAL? You *will* have to know the model number of the printer you need the ribbon for. Tim.

26 years, 3 months

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