Well, I don't think it was made exactly for the AT, but I know that I've
seen them in old pictures with an AT. I'm not sure about the date, and I
don't think they were made by IBM, either.
--
-Jason
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#-1730318
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> From: SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: WTB: OLD Cd-Rom
> Date: Saturday, August 29, 1998 7:19 AM
>
> In a message dated 98-08-29 02:16:04 EDT, you write:
>
> << Not really. There's room for an internal, and I have a sound card,
and a
> Mitsumi external w/ a blown controller. I'm just trying to find one of
the
> drives that could originally be purchased with the AT (or at least a 3rd
> party accessory). >>
>
> a cd rom for a 5170? that machine was announced ~1984 and IBM didnt have
a cd
> rom drive for an option way back then.
The Northstar Advantage I purchased arrived today. Fired it up, booted
into Graphic CP/M 2.2. Everything seems to work peachy!
Don Maslin, the boot disk you sent me was for a single floppy drive plus
HD system. Would you like me to send you a copy of the Dual Floppy boot
disk I made?
Tony
I haven't seen the particular pictures that you refer to but I have
a weird DATEXT cd with the width of the case about that of an AT. It has
a card too. Never tried it, but it turns on fine.
>Hello. I'm looking for one of the OLD CD-Rom's that are sometimes
pictureded
>with old IBM's in TAB books. They are the old, big (well, wide)
external i
>drives that were in a case about 12-18" wide, and about 3-4" high. I'm
not
>sure if they were manufactured by IBM or not. I need it for my 5170
AT.
>
>I'm also looking for an original IBM 5170 AT keyboard.
>
>ThAnX in advance,
>--
> -Jason
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> What no room for an internal? If you have a sound card with a proprietry
> interface connection you could drop it right in. Bet you wish you had the
tandy
> set now, huh?
>
Not really. There's room for an internal, and I have a sound card, and a
Mitsumi external w/ a blown controller. I'm just trying to find one of the
drives that could originally be purchased with the AT (or at least a 3rd
party accessory).
--
-Jason
(roblwill(a)usaor.net)
ICQ#-1730318
>I've also got problems with KED saving wierd strings of words to my data
>files when I save a text file. I'm about ready to hook one of my VT
>terminals up to the P2 so I've got an actual DEC terminal that I can run
>this stuff on and see if that helps, but it is a MAJOR pain to get to the
>back of the system to plug the cable in :^(
This must be a real bug in the emulator - I've seen this (random junk
past end-of-file) happen too. It seems to have no effect outside of KED,
strangely enough.
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--- Poesie De La Fenetre wrote:
well, I missed the meeting of you TC folks. But my excuse is valid... I
picked up a mac Quadra 950, w/ tons of cool A/V stuff, and a 21 inch
supermac monitor. Nothing 10 years old, except one of the hard drives- a
1.2 gig micropolis scsi made in 1987. huge.
so, be that as it may, I cannot get the system to boot correctly with
both the boot drive and this other drive hooked up at once. not a scsi
ID conflict; if i unplug the big old micropolis, it boots, and i can
plug it back in while it's running and it's accessable. it's not marked
as a boot disk, a startup disk, and it has no system software on it. I'm
lost.
--- end of quote ---
Could be a termination thing. Sometimes drives that used to be internal get used as externals, but they still have the termination jumper "on" which renders them unrecognizable to the system (don't know why it comes up when you hot-swap it, though). I think the termination jumper pins are usually labelled "T1."
-- MB
< It would appear that I am in dire need of some guidance in how to bring
< up my MicroVAX 2000. To bring things up to a current baseline, it is
< equipped with 14Mb of RAM, an RD54 HD, external connection option, and
< has a TK50Z-FA connected to it.
So far a fine machine.
< I have on hand several tapes for VMS - v5.4 and 5.5 - most but not all
< say that they are binary. Some are characterized as 'mandatory update'
Good!
< At any rate, after inserting the tape (#1) in the drive, closing the
< door, and pressing the illuminated red pushbutton, I enter 'b/1 mua0' a
< the terminal. After some passage of time (accompanied by whirring
< sounds and flashing lights), I see on the screen:
<
< -MUA0
Oops! It may be other than MUA0 or could be MKA7 (try 0-7 for both).
< Then later:
<
< %VMB-F-ERR, PC = 00000765
< %VMB-I-STS, R0 = 000008C2
< 84 FAIL
That means wrong or unusable device, or wrong media. If you do a T 50
you get a map of devices. so you know:
One line that gives looks like this:
FFFFF03 FFFFF05 FFFFF05 FFFFF05 FFFFF05 FFFFF05 FFFFF05
The FFFFF03 is the address of the tape, in this case device 0. the 05s
means no device at that address.
MM memory management
NI eithernet module
NVR battery backed up ram
TPC tape controller
DZ serial line controller
FP Floating point
HDC hard disks/floppies
4pln 4 plane graphics coprocessor
8pln 8 plane graphics coporcessor
MONO monochrome video (bare bones)
DUA0 is the hard disk which has ???? on it.
Allison
< On one hand, your friend could learn how to use a unix machine to
< get the files and unpack them, and on the other hand, maybe someone
< should take all the files which comprise the current kit and create
< an equivalent .zip file and put it on gatekeeper...
Or behind the third do there is gunzip and detar for DOS. Also available
for most of the same archives as the Supnik emulators.
Allison
In a message dated 98-08-29 03:20:00 EDT, you write:
<< >> You neglect to mention the begathons every PBS station does for at
> > least two weeks every quarter.
> That's true (and they are very annoying). So there is a downside to PBS.
> I wonder if they're telling the whole truth about their money policies
during
> those pledge drives? I'd really like to know more details about where they
> get their money and how they spend it.
-- Derek >>
how does this fit into classiccmp?
