Why not just run... What's that DOS program that fakes out apps to make
them think they are running on another version of DOS? I'm drawing a blank
here, but I did use it one time to make Windows 2.03 think it was running
under DOS 3.3 when it was actually running on DOS 6.0. Worked great. The
command is documented in the DOS help file, 5.0 and up, IIRC.
At 01:00 AM 8/11/98 GMT, kyrrin(a)jps.net wrote:
> Can anyone help this fellow obtain a most ancient version of DOS?
>Please contact him directly if so.
>
> Thanks!
>
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>On Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:07:07 +0100, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc you wrote:
>
>>>From: Alun <AJB(a)alunbell.demon.co.uk>
>>>Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
>>>Subject: Dos v2.11
>>>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:07:07 +0100
>>>Organization: None
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>>>Anyone got a copy? I'm happy to pay for it! I need it desperately to
>>>rescue a customer whose PC2086 and software has died. They are a
>>>veterinarians, and their drug labelling software only runs on this
>>>version of DOS (seriously!). I'm rewriting it all, but there's thousand
>>>of drugs to enter, and until I'm done, they really need their old
>>>software to run on a spare machine.
>>>--
>>>Alun
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While browsing I discovered that Chapter 9 of TAB book # 1183,
"Troubleshooting Microprocessors & Digital Logic" by Robert L. Goodman,
consists of about twenty five pages of schematics and troubleshooting hints
for the TRS80 Model 1.
I hope this is of interest.
Regards
Charlie Fox
No, that's NOT what I said, to make it easier to understand:
1. remove the round PC mount power socket from a dead 64 curcuitboard
2. remove the Plus/4's square power socket from the Plus/4 curcuitboard
3. solder in the 64 socket where the Plus/4 socket was (the pin locations are
the same)
Then plug in any 64 power supply to the Plus/4 and fire it up. Works like a champ!
> From: Russ Blakeman <rhblake(a)bbtel.com>
> Subject: Re: Plus/4 Power Supply
>
> I think the connectors are different. If I remember correctly it looks like a
> 128's square housing with s different pin setup. I'm pretty sure the voltages
> are the same though they are in different places.
>
> Maybe he can use the C64 power supply and splice his old connector to the end of
> it? He'd have to have the pinouts of both to do this though.
>
Really more work than is really worth it. The plus/4 supply is a black
Commodore 64 brick supply (the one with the bah-relief C= symbol) with a
square power connector, no major cosmetic difference.
since he wants the 'real thing' check out:
http://www.vintagecomputer.com/
where you will find these prices:
4. PLUS/4 WITH POWER SUPPLY.....18.95
5. PLUS/4 COMPUTER (KEYBOARD).....10.95
*** 6. PLUS/4 POWER SUPPLY.....10.95 ***
7. C16 WITH POWER SUPPLY.....24.95
8. C16 COMPUTER (KEYBOARD).....14.95
9. C16 POWER SUPPLY.....14.95
> Larry Anderson wrote:
>
> > You can use a Commodore 64 power supply on your plus/4 too!
> >
> > What you need to do is remove the power connector from a dead 64 motherboard
> > and solder it into where the the Plus/4's power connector is. Fortunately
> > they are both pin for pin compatible with each other. I have modified one
> > plus/4 in that way and haven't had a problem since. ;)
> >
> > Larry Anderson
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My apologies for posting this to the list.
Douglas Salot, please send me an email. I don't have your email address.
Tom Owad
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>Sorry, I was totally confused when I posted that. One is an Apple ][
>Europlus (Eurostar is the train which goes under the sea to France :) and
>the other is a //e. They appear to have _totally_ different motherboards
>so I don't know if they are variants of the same beast or not. I know
>nothing about Apples prior to the Mac but am keen to learn - the
>attraction of this hobby to me is to play with things which I know nothing
>about.
The Eurplus is basically an Apple II+. Thus, the "plus" in its name.
Tom Owad
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>> cards in them I suppose I will have to wait until I can scrounge one.
>
>I have 4million of those. Tell me I'm beautiful and I'll send you one.
You're weird
>
>Sam Alternate e-mail:
dastar(a)siconic.com
It's very likely that no commercial utility will work on this board, it
probably shipped with its own chipset-specific drivers.
There were some alternative drivers such as The Last Byte, but they worked
only on certain 286 chipsets (e.g. C&T)
Kai (for whom EMS was once a technical specialty, boy that brings back
painful memories)
-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Blakeman [mailto:rhblake@bbtel.com]
Sent: Monday, August 10, 1998 3:28 PM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Re: EMS/XMS memory driver needed
Marvin wrote:
> Russ Blakeman wrote:
> >
> > Someone I know has just acquired a motherboard, XT type aftermarket,
> > with 768k onboard ram. I'm fairly sure the system is going to need a
> > special driver to access the memory over DOS's 640k. Anyone have such
> > an
> > animal and can attach it to email or know of a commercial program that
> > will handle the job?
>
> Quarterdeck used to offer a program called QRAM (IIRC) that would allow
> more than the 640K Ram to be used. I know it would work with 286
> computers, but don't know about XTs.
We'll try anythig until he gets it right. At one time this stuff was so
commonplace that even after years with it I forget what and where.
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With these beasts I was also given a centronics printer cable but there
seems to be nowhere to plug it in. Is this something which also needs an
interface card?
Regards
Pete
>Hi all,
>
>I'm moving soon, and want to get my old CoCo3, monitor, disk drive, and
more
>to a good home. I live in the Laurel, Maryland area, and the whole
>kit-and-kaboodle is yours for free -- all you have to do is email me at
>
>russett(a)russettweb.com.nospam
>
>(remove .nospam)
>
>to arrange the pick-up. The CoCo3 and monitor work great. I'm not sure if
>the disk controller is still working. I also have the old RS-232 interface
>cartridge, hi res joystick interface (I think I can find it), and two or
>three games to give away.
>
>Thanks,
>
>...Allen
>
>
>
>