This was a slow week. Not that I didn't find a lot but I was running out
of money! I did pick up *SEVEN* HP 64100 Logic Developement Systems.
And a HP 8180 pattern generator with a 8181 extender with all the cables
and manuals. I passed up a HP Touch Screen II and a HP 9826 and several HP
9000 300 series computers.
The HP 64100 LDS dates from the early '80s but HP is still making a
similar machine. These look like an oversize RS model 1s with a tape drive
to the right of the monitor and a opening to the right of the keyboard. The
opening is used to install an optional EPROM burner socket. The main unit
has slots for 9 expansion cards for logic analyzers, various CPU emulators,
extra memory, etc. I will probably keep one, the rest are up for grabs if
anyone wants them. I will charge a reasonable price to cover the cost of
packing and taking to UPS (Gag! I hate that place!) But be warned they are
bigger than a model 1 and weigh about 75 pounds bare. They're located in
Florida so you can figure out shipping. I don't have any of the plug in
emulators, etc but I do have two boxs of manuals. Most/ all of these will
be scrapped if no one wants them, they're too big to keep around.
Joe
Yeah. All the docs would be cool. The thing that really bugs me is that
I dont remember how to boot one :)
Sure did meet Allison, she's still got a Compupro RAM card floating
around somewhere for me. Since we work mere blocks from each other, it
shouldn't be tough to get it from her.
We can meet up at the Sept flea somewhere, I'll have my PDP collecting
girlfriend in tow.
I actually want to entertain the idea of maybe joining up with the west
coast folks to see if we can get a VCF together for us east coasters.
Hell, cant be any worse than running a Japanese Animation or Sci-Fi
convention (both of which I have done in the past).
Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Stek [mailto:bobstek@ix14.ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 17, 1998 10:10 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: RE: Tony - SOL docs and MIT flea market
>
>
> Hey, Tony -
>
> Give me some time to make copies, and the SOL docs will
> be yours. Should I
> assume you also want the actual kit construction details, or
> will the theory
> of operation, schematics, etc. be sufficient?
>
> Yesterday was my first visit to the MIT flea market,
> too. Did you meet
> Allison? I bought a great new Integrand cabinet/power supply
> from her. I
> think I saw everything you bought except for the Osborne
> Executive (which I
> would have bought had I seen it first!) - I just have more
> self-restraint
> (or perhaps less money <g>) Perhaps we could go together in
> September. It
> may not be VCF 2.0, but it's what we got!
>
> Bob Stek
> bobstek(a)ix.netcom.com
>
At 05:37 PM 8/15/98 -0500, Doug Yowza wrote:
>$12K too much for you to pay for an Altair? OK, here's a guy that made a
>$25 Altair clone:
And don't forget, the C source and Windows executables to Altair and
IMSAI emulators are available on my web site.
I've put them there in the hopes of attracting someone who'd like
to verify their emulation, supply source code to bootstraps or
example programs, add an emulated ASR-33 for "reading" pretend
tapes and viewing output, sound effects, etc.
- John
Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>
Hey, Tony -
Give me some time to make copies, and the SOL docs will be yours. Should I
assume you also want the actual kit construction details, or will the theory
of operation, schematics, etc. be sufficient?
Yesterday was my first visit to the MIT flea market, too. Did you meet
Allison? I bought a great new Integrand cabinet/power supply from her. I
think I saw everything you bought except for the Osborne Executive (which I
would have bought had I seen it first!) - I just have more self-restraint
(or perhaps less money <g>) Perhaps we could go together in September. It
may not be VCF 2.0, but it's what we got!
Bob Stek
bobstek(a)ix.netcom.com
I came to own a scanner made by The Complete PC, Inc. Natrually there
isn't any software with the device do anyone here know where I could
find a program to use this thing? I know this isn't quite 10 years old
but in '99 it will be so could we bend the rules this time?
OK, this is starting to get interesting. I've got a box labled VT100
boards, and it's definitely part of the guts of this terminal (the terminal
works as a terminal).
The terminal has had it's front nameplate removed (probably doesn't mean
anything, they were all this way). On the back is a Digital tag declaring
it to be a VT100-AA. Next to that is a ARC (Agency Records Control, Inc.
of Bryon, Texas) declaring to be a Model ART 01.
The box has the following:
M7270 - KD11-HA - 11/03 CPU Board (dual)
M8021 - MRV11-BA - UV ROM/RAM (dual)
M7949 - LAV11 - LA180 Line Printer Interface (dual)
_Another_ Xebec controller (Wierd disk I think) (Quad)
ARC DFV-11A (Quad)
ARC EIA Switch two 2x5 connectors, 2 switches (RUN/HALT and OVRD/NORM)
1 Vector Plugboard (prototyping board) unused, though the bag has been opened.
I the ARC EIA goes in the options slot on the VT100 board. I think it's
third party version of the card that Megan mentioned in a post today. It
has one of the cables and it's 2x5 pin a connector on both ends.
I don't know if all these board belong to this system or not, I'm pretty
sure that the plug board doesn't.
The MRV11-BA has 256 words of RAM, and 2 1k ROMS
I dug through the manuals I've got, but couldn't come up with anything on
what on earth a DFV-11A is.
Off the top of my head I'd say I'm missing a SLU, and I need a disk controller.
Zane
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At 08:45 PM 8/9/98 -0700, Sam Ismail wrote:
>That said, I'm no Tandy 1000 expert, but something tells me you missed
>where the serial port is on the back.
Errr, I was pretty thorough. That's why I set it back down, because I saw
no way to hook a modem to it.
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I'll be unsubscribed for a few days to get Linux up and running on my
rebuilt workstation. I'll be back as soon as I get the dialup and E-mail
client running.
Nobody kill anyone while I'm gone, OK? ;-)
May you always have sun to play in and money to play with.
> From: "kroma" <kroma(a)worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: Commodore 64 Returns???
>
> Check out this article at ZDNet
> http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/zdnn_smgraph_display/0,3441,2128102,00.ht…
I don't think ZDNet will post my comments, as mine started with:
Piracy YES. Commodore 64 NOT!
This computer is a lame attempt of a failing PC clone manufacturer to
monopolize on the nostalgia of users and an internet fiasco.
I summed up how not a 64 it was given it has NO 64 interfaces (save for the
keyboard) so you cannot hook any 64 peripherals on it (joysticks, light pens,
REUs, not even 1541 disk drives). And it was merely an encouragement for
owners to download pirated commercial Commodore-64 disk images off of the internet.
Also I added: it may run 64 software, but in no way will it give the owner the
reassurance or feeling that they actually 'own' a Commodore 64.
---
I think this company is gonna have legal problems from places such as
Broderbund and Eletronic Arts (or more likely CMD, who has alot of ownership
of 64 licenses) if they actually do sell some of em...
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At 11:40 PM 8/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>On Sun, 16 Aug 1998, Tony Duell wrote:
>> > A quick question... How many people know how to work on their cars? How
>> > many drive older vehicles without as much "black-box" stuff?
> - - -
>> When I learn to drive I intend to get a car with (as R.A. Pease said)
>> 'the right number of computers controlling the engine - none' !
>
>I'm kind of surprised to hear that attitude around here! ;) I've never
>been able to touch a carburetor without f**ing it up. Fixing, let alone
>tuning one, seems to be black magic.
>
>EFI on the other hand is logical; if you can follow directions and run a
>DVM, you can fix it!
So are carburators. You just have to study how they work and learn what
part does what and when. I can make a Carter AFB do anything including
sing. You should hear two of those on a 426 Hemi at WOT!
And if you tweak the engine for more efficiency,
>many of them automatically compensate -- no need to swap out jets and
>other mechanical parts by trial end error.
Yes but I can still swap a jet faster than I can burn an EPROM! The big
advantage of the EFI is that it's more precise than a carburator, can
monitor and adjust for more conditions and employs feed back sensors for
even more precise control.
>
>And if you want to get hard-core and do your own mods, those "black boxes"
>are just embedded microprocessors with a relatively small program. Many
>are off the shelf chips w. documented instrution sets. A few talented &
>adventuresome folks have even reverse-hacked some proprietary ones; like
>Clark Steppler of Jim Wolf Technology who can make a Nissan EFI computer
>do almost anything.
>
>So back to the original question: cars are my main hobby, and I'm all for
>electronics. My 122 cubic-inch Nissan econo-box turns mid 14 second runs
>at the drag strip; akin to getting a MIP out of one of 'dem Altairs. Yee
>ha :)
Yeah, just stuff in a P II mobo!
Another motor-head!
>
> -wayne
>
>
>
