test-drb August 1998

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by roblwill＠usaor.net

How much for the monitors? -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318 ---------- > From: Poesie <poesie(a)geocities.com> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: more info on systems.... > Date: Thursday, August 20, 1998 10:46 PM > > well, I found out none of the NEC versa laptops are for sale; > apparently some VP is holding onto them for some reason. We have maybe > 30 7100/66or80 PPC macs; most with 16-32 mb ram, additional vid cards, > token ring. IIci's, about 15? with 20mb ram each. 6 Quadra 950 servers > with typically 2 300mb scsi drives and between 25-50 mb ram. ummm... > maybe 50? or more DuoDocks, both the Duo 230 or 280, and the Dock. don't > know the possibility status of selling these. several sony video > monitors that are touch screens, accept various inputs, came with weird > computerized videodisc systems. >

25 years, 11 months

looking for...SYQUEST 270

by allisonp＠world.std.com

Can anyone help me I was just given a parallel port syquest 270 external cartridge disk. I don't have the install disk... well I do but it's hopelessly munged. I need that so I can do transfer media to PC from... More importantly I want to try and hang it on one of the CP/M systems that happens (by my design) to have a EPP compatable port. So, I need the gory details of how to talk to such a critter so I can write a CP/M bios. And you thought it's all non classic! Graft new technology to old and keep it crankin. Allison

25 years, 11 months

Mac Portable problems (was Re: Mac Portable batt charger)

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 08:41 PM 8/20/98 EDT, you wrote: >--- Tony Duell wrote: >Do you have a working battery in the machine? IIRC, the PSU can't supply >enough current on it's own to get the machine and hard disk started up. >When the hard disk tries to spin up, the PSU shuts down, etc. Giving you >exactly what you're seeing That is true. Took me a while to figure that out. >Really? I'm charging a pair of batteries overnight. Tomorrow I'll see if >anything works with a charged battery. I thought that with the 9-volt >backup and the power adapter, that was enough juice -- Uncle Roger, is >that what you were saying earlier? Yes, that seems to work, provided you take the cover for the main battery off. Also, the 9v has to be pretty new. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

25 years, 11 months

Minor Tektronix success story.

by Philip.Belben＠powertech.co.uk

>>Could someone please enlighten me... What, pray, is FLEX? > > For years, it was *THE* disk operating system if you had a 6800/6802 > based system. Originally written in the late 70's, it powered the > majority of the SS-50 computers until the 6809 came out. Then came > FLEX/09, StarDOS, UniFLEX, OS/9. . . . Thanks. I wonder why I'd never heard of it. > It was a bit limited, but it was small enough to fit within the 6800's 64K > address space, with *plenty* of room to spare! The 4052 has a 128K address space - separate 64k spaces for code and data. That said, there are ways of running code in the data space and accessing data in the code space. > Well, yeah, but still faster then 1Mc (or 800kc if you didn't modify > the cpu board). Yes, much. >>I must do some more research into the relationship between 4052 and 6800 >>instruction sets. > > Yes. How the implemented the microcode would be of particular interest. The service manuals tell you a lot about how the microcode is executed, but little about what's in there. Similarly there is a list of instruction mnemonics and addressing modes against opcodes, and even an explanation of how the addressing modes work, but nothing to tell you what the instructions do, let alone anything in the way of ROM listings. One day I might get around to decompiling the microcode... Philip.

25 years, 11 months

Emulators

by rax＠warbaby.com

All the emu stuff you'll ever need: http://www.classicgaming.com/emunews/computer.htm R. -- Warbaby The WebSite. The Domain. The Empire. http://www.warbaby.com The MonkeyPool WebSite Content Development http://www.monkeypool.com Dreadlocks on white boys give me the willies.

25 years, 11 months

more info on systems....

by sinasohn＠ricochet.net

At 09:46 PM 8/20/98 -0500, you wrote: >30 7100/66or80 PPC macs; most with 16-32 mb ram, additional vid cards, >token ring. IIci's, about 15? with 20mb ram each. 6 Quadra 950 servers >with typically 2 300mb scsi drives and between 25-50 mb ram. ummm... I'd like to offer, on behalf of Garden Village Elementary School, $750 for the 30 PPC 7100's as one lot. In addition, I'll offer an addition $150 for the Quadra's. This is a serious offer. I can forward the funds via check, money order, cash, or I can just add it to my next mortgage payment. (Just kidding!) Feel free to call me at 1-415-469-7924 or page me at either 1-415-201-0273 or <4152010273(a)alphapage.airtouch.com> (just the message body gets sent; about the first 256 chars.) >maybe 50? or more DuoDocks, both the Duo 230 or 280, and the Dock. don't >know the possibility status of selling these. several sony video If you want to sell these, I would be interested in quite a few as well. (Probably one for each teacher.) >-Eric Thanks, Eric for all your effort in this! --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/

25 years, 11 months

Mac Portable problems (was Re: Mac Portable batt charger)

by roblwill＠usaor.net

It plays death chimes?? -- -Jason (roblwill(a)usaor.net) ICQ#-1730318 PS>> do you maybe want to sell one of those? ---------- > From: Marion Bates <Marion.Bates(a)Dartmouth.EDU> > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Mac Portable problems (was Re: Mac Portable batt charger) > Date: Thursday, August 20, 1998 2:56 PM > I've got three semi-functional Portables, and am hoping to wind up with at least one that works. But they all seem to have bad hard disks (Apple 40SC internal) -- if the drive is connected at power-up, it makes a tick-tick-tick noise, the screen flashes, and it repeatedly plays interrupted Death Chimes until I turn it off. The drive never actually spins up.

25 years, 11 months

Macs, IBM systems, roms, etc etc...

by poesie＠geocities.com

Ok, after a few more days of scoping things out, here's the deal: I started working for GE Capital, at Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Minnesota. They are disposing of alot of the mac systems, and I figured that I would be able to pull the ROM's out of the old ones that I knew were never going to be used again, ever. (Just so you know, I would probably lose my job due to that but it's a shame to let such things go to waste. If someone reading this is from my new employers, I haven't done anything!!!!!) Anyway, one of my bosses, the asset manager, is actively trying to dispose of pallets of stuff. So if someone out there can actually buy quite a bit, that might be nice... apparently last year he made 300 bucks selling all systems to scrap dealers that melted it all for the metal content. bummer.) We have lots of old IBM mainframe systems, Quads, CRTs, etc etc. also, a good lot of those macs were all used by the Graphic Design dept; so they are chock full of cool stuff (tons of ram, souped up video cards, yadda yadda.) lots of hard drives, all have token ring cards. (I reiterate: LOTS of token ring cards. I'm swimming in them.) I currently have a large pallet of mac 14/15 inch monitors; a pallet of IIsi, IIci, IIcx's; Quadra 700s, Quadra 950 servers(awesome machines), PowerPC 7100/66, 7100/80's. also other random ones. also, *several* pallets of Duo Dock 230's and 280's. tons of NEC versa V/50's and 4000c's. quite a few 21 inch mac color monitors (definitely not for sale, unless you made an attractive offer to my boss!) alot of this stuff is earmarked for employee sales, but alot of it is also headed for disposal. If anyone is truly interested, I will print out and give serious inquiries to my boss. emailing the head of a large national corporation won't do much, but I can give your requests to the right person. in Minneapolis, Minnesota. -Eric (PS. - I only offered to grab roms or small chip components because they wouldn't be used where the machines were headed, and they wouldn't be missed. I cannot personally recover systems or anything of that nature. I am sure however that my boss would be very reasonable if you made an offer!) PPS- we also have several sony trinitron touch screens. anyone know of a use for these?

25 years, 11 months

Mathatron & other stuff

by rigdonj＠intellistar.net

At 05:41 PM 8/19/98 -0500, you wrote: > >> Another "crossover" machine that I have a little info >> (mainly pictures) of is the HP 9830, called a calculator >> but in fact a computer with BASIC. > >The 9830 doesn't get discussed much, but it's one of my favorites. >There's a lot of noise on this list about the Altair, a "PC" from 1975 >that was just a big box with lights and toggles. In 1972, the HP 9830 was >an elegant light-weight Light-weight!!!!!!!!!! I have both an Altair and a 9830 and the 9830 is at least three times as heavy as the Altair! It's also probably 5 times stronger. I have used my 9830 as a step stool (after it died of other causes). I wouldn't even think of doing that with the Altair. desktop computer with full alphanumeric keyboard, >built-in secondary storage, built-in display, One line LED. Whoppee! built-in BASIC, Yes, and ONLY BASIC! The Altair was a general purpose machine. and it just >plain works. There was nothing else remotely like it at the time, and it >was even reasonably priced (around $5000, I think). That's what, 12 times the price of the Altair? The two machines aren't comparable. They're completely different. Have you ever tried to generate music or word process on a 9830? You can't do it. You could on an Altair. The 9830 is a sophisticated programmable calcualtor. The Altair is a striped down general purpose computer. Joe > >-- Doug > > >

25 years, 11 months

IBM System 32 stuff...

by Joel＠VirtualAdmin.com

They're in a warehouse and the way they're shelved I couldn't see any model #s. The guy told me they were hooked up to a 32, and they look like 32/34 gear. I could probably get some part#s tomorrow, but I think they'd be happier if someone just took the whole mess. -----Original Message----- From: William Donzelli [mailto:william@ans.net] Sent: Friday, August 21, 1998 12:51 PM To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers Subject: RE: IBM System 32 stuff... > Oh yeah... my profuse apologies... I'm in Maryland, > the marina is in Virginia near DC. Cool. Any chance you could get some of the type numbers from the things (they may follow the x32x format, like 5230 for the CPU)? William Donzelli william(a)ans.net

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