I been in yer shoes.
The color NeXT Station used either a proprietary keyboard/mouse
interface or ADB versions. I'm not sure how to figger out which is which
but the guys at http://www.deepspacetech.com/ would, plus, they carry
the other stuff you're gonna need to get the sucker up and running (like
the OS).
Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Eros [mailto:Anthony.Eros@digital.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 1998 7:21 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: NeXtStation TurboColor
>
>
> I picked up a NeXtStation TurboColor box today at a hamfest.
> A kid had
> just bought 3 monitors, 4 boxes and a small stack of manuals and sold
> me the extra system box for $25. No memory or hard disk and
> (of course)
> no monitor, cable, keyboard, mouse or software.
>
> Does anyone have experience with these systems? Any tips on getting
> the pieces needed to get it running?
>
> -- Tony
>
They start most items at 1000. I know where you can get an imagewriter
printer in a clear plastic case with serial #1000.
Tony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Owad [mailto:tomowad@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 1998 6:22 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Apple Prototype Keyboard
>
>
> I just acquired two Apple prototype keyboards. The
> keyboard is very
> small with no frame and only 58 keys. They hvae stereo-type
> connectors
> on them, as oppose to ADB, and I have an adapter box to hook
> them up to a
> Mac Plus (and they do work, btw).
> According to my "AppleDesign" book, they are "Cassie" keyboards,
> co-designed by Mannock and Esslinger for the SnowWhite Project. Does
> anyone have any further information on these keyboards? And how do
> things like this get outside of Apple? I'm under the
> impression Apple
> doesn't exactly give this kind of stuff away.
>
> On the back the keyboards read:
>
> [logo]apple
> apq
> Development Engineering
> PROTOTYPE
> S/n# Model#
> 1012
> (the other says "1032")
>
> Does Apple start numbering at '1' or '1000'?
>
> The keyboard, btw, is obviously a prototype. The whole thing
> seems quite
> flimsy and the keys are all angled slightly differently.
>
> Tom
>
> --
> Sysop of Caesarville Online
> Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>
>
< I, too, have the Bermuda Triangle LP, but if I remember correctly I have
< copies -- one pressed in pink vinyl and one pressed in blue.
Mine was plan vinyl (black) a later copy.
< As an aside, My personal favorite of the early synth years is Larry Fast
< Synergy project.
I have those too. Electronic realizations for a rock Orchestra.
Allison
< Originally, the Altair (S-100) bus did not define a need for termination
< any kind. It was not until things on the bus started to speed up (usin
< DMA and such) that anyone apparently thought about it.
The altair bus was never specified, nor engineered. IF it were it would
not have been built that way.
It was more like people tried to makes them work and found the crashed
often and without apparent cause. Other people found if the move the
boards from one slow to another would make a program crash. Using an
extender card crashed the system. Most all found as they added memory the
system would get more or less stable. I was one of the early ones looking
at the data lines mostly if horror with my scope. Of the handfull of
computer people in the LI, NY area at the time I was one of the few with a
scope.
< Can't hurt. I will say however, I do seem to recall seeing a board or t
< that would not run on a terminated bus, but that has been so long that
< don't evem recall what it was.
There were a few really badly designed boards that couldn't drive the bus
at all well and tended to also aggravate the noise situation.
Allison
Just purchased three Zenith Data Systems laptops at a Hamfest - my
first IBM-compatible computers, believe it or not (always focused on the
Apples & under-the-TV 8-bit systems).
Needless to say, I don't know a thing about them. There are no power
adapters. I have a 12v 300 mA adapter. Will that work with them? I
hooked it up to all three systems - 2 of them didn't do a thing. The
third "spins" up and I can hear a very faint wining noise from inside.
The monitor, however, shows nothing (could this be due to too little
amperage?). The computer gives a three-tone beep every 15 seconds or so
(estimate) and beeps whenever I press a key.
Anybody have any suggestions? Like I said, I don't anything about
these, so any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom
--
Sysop of Caesarville Online
Client software at: <http://home.earthlink.net/~tomowad/>
>>> [Linux World Domination]
>>> Y'know, once we get that user-friendly stuff happening, we're gonna
>>> kick windows's ass.
>>> User friendly + reliable + free = the next killer O/S.
>>> Windows will simply have no way to compete and still turn a profit.
>> One name: ApplixWare. Go find it and install it. That'll provide you
>> with all the user-friendliness you want.
> Yup. Redhat Applixware running under Caldera 1,2 with Redhad/Triteal
> CDE. Beats the crap of my NT system at work with Office '97 in both
> user-friendly and stable. IMAO of course.
Ever tried KDE - IMHO the best attempt to get a whole
desktop environment - and its public. (And try StarOffice
as office suite -> you'll never think again about MS,
especialy since SO is also availabe for Win3.1/95/NT
_and_ OS/2).
CCob:
Ever tried (DR-)DOS and GEM ? _TONS_ of good old and some new soft!
Gruss
H.
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
Is it possible to take a "standard" svga type lcd display and wire it
to a typical SVGA video card? How does it differ inside a laptop that
has both an external SVGA adapter and the internal LCD connection? I'd
love to use some of these LCD displays I have in some systems. any info
would be appreciated.
-Eric
< I still have one prototyped at home... it allowed up to 9 voices
< (three voices/chip, 3 chips) of sound, and 3 voices of percussion.
I happen to have the DEC internal card for the Q-bus Ey-0105E-ms-101
(AKA Gigilo), uses two GI-AY-3-8912 sound chips. I also have some of the
PDP-11 software to drive it.
I don't have a schematic for it or the specs for the sound chips however I
do have a few sources for the music play software (asm a upower pascal).
I also have the honor of meeting Carlos in an old wherehouse and sound
lab on Long Island back in 1973 when the company I was with was moving
in to the facility. There was some amazing old junk left behind like
old audio power amps with 807s and 813s... It was just down the block
>from SUNY farmingdale.
Allison
< I've not been able to find time to dig into the machine, are the two
< powersupplies in a BA123 the same or different? My dead one is the one
< that powers the card cage.
<
Zane,
thy both power the card cage each one a different part of it. Running on
one is bad.
Do inspect them for fan failures and blown fuses. Also if one or the
other is not loaded enough it's may not start up!
Allison