At 06:37 PM 6/16/98 +0100, you wrote:
>> Say a real goodie shows up, like a perfect DEC Straight-8 or an unbuilt
>> Altair kit. Assume the price is good, like $250 for either. Assume that
>> you have the time and a working car, plus a loved one that will not scream
>> too much. Assume that the current owner can not ship the thing. How many
>> miles would you go?
Well, hereabouts, I go 35 miles each way to and from work, and mine is not
an exceptionally long commute. (I know folks who do ~70 miles each way in
traffic.) (Heck, my sister does 60-70 miles each way just for an hour or
two.)
My problem is not so much distance as it is time. I'd gladly do a week-end
trip to, say, Los Angeles (~500 miles), for most anything, if I didn't have
to spend the time a) working, b) with my dad, c) with my girlfriend or d)
sleeping (ha!).
Mostly, though, I send my aforementioned sister to get things for me (she
drove from SF to San Diego, back to Disneyland, and back to SF in about 30
hours -- with about 8 hours at Disneyland and 8 or so in San Diego. 8^)
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At 09:39 PM 6/15/98 +0300, you wrote:
> As for the Sega, Windows CE's OK for what I want it for: Simple eMail.
>No graphics, no attachments. I don't want Windows CE freezing up my game
If all you want is simple e-mail, no graphics, no attachments, why spend
$500+ on a wince machine? Get yerself a 8088/286/386 laptop from ebay and
use a shell account. Or, if you need ppp connectivity, use one of the
DOS-based ones running around.
Btw, everybody, if you're thinking of putting "(OT)" in your subject, DON'T
SEND IT TO ClassicCmp! Those of us that care about new tech are on mailing
lists/newsgroups related to what we're interested in; the rest don't care
and don't want to see it. There are appropriate forums for questions on
Linux, Win95, Wince, Pentiums, etc. This ain't them!
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They're coming out of the woodwork today. Contact this fellow directly
if you're interested.
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On 16 Jun 1998 15:23:24 GMT, in comp.unix.ultrix you wrote:
>>From: jorgnsn(a)qucis.queensu.ca (John Jorgensen)
>>Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
>>Subject: was someone looking for a DECstation 5000/200?
>>Date: 16 Jun 1998 15:23:24 GMT
>>Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University
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>>Message-ID: <6m62lc$d56$1(a)knot.queensu.ca>
>>NNTP-Posting-Host: quidnunc.qucis.queensu.ca
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>>
>>I seem to remember a message posted a few days ago by someone who was
>>looking for a DECstation 5000/200. We're de-commissioning a student lab
>>full of DECstations, but I wasn't sure of the model numbers. Now I've
>>confirmed that there are five 5000/200s among the workstations that are being
>>retired, but the original article has been expired.
>>
>>So if there is somebody out there who is looking for DECstation 5000/200s,
>>drop me a line.
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>
>>John Jorgensen jorgnsn(a)qucis.queensu.ca (613) 545 6784
>>System Administrator, Dept. of Computing Science, Queen's University
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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:40:53, in comp.sys.dec you wrote:
>>From: gcg1(a)psu.edu (Gary Gentzel)
>>Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
>>Subject: Value of DECStation 5000's?
>>Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 13:40:53
>>Organization: CAC
>>Lines: 15
>>Message-ID: <gcg1.47.0025D051(a)psu.edu>
>>NNTP-Posting-Host: ggentzel.oas.psu.edu
>>X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B]
>>Path: blushng.jps.net!news.eli.net!uunet!in4.uu.net!newsfeed.xcom.net!feeder.qis.net!newshub.northeast.verio.net!news3.cac.psu.edu!ggentzel.oas.psu.edu!gcg1
>>
>>Our department is considering what to do with two DECStations. Could anyone
>>give me a ballpark figure on what these systems may be worth? Here are the
>>specs, as best as I can tell:
>>
>>5000/125: 16MB RAM, 3-1/2" floppy, BA42 Storage Expansion box containing TZK10
>>tape drive and 426 MB RZ25 hard drive. VR297-DA 17" monitor.
>>
>>5000/240: 32 or 64MB RAM, BA42A storage expansion box containing 426 MB RZ25
>>hard drive and RRD42 CD-ROM. TK50Z tape drive unit. VRT16-HA 17" monitor.
>>
>>Any help would be appreciated....
>>
>>Gary Gentzel
>>Penn State University Administrative Systems
>>gcg1(a)psu.edu
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some freebies in the southland, and they look promising! Please contact
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On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:57:52 +0000, in comp.sys.dec you wrote:
>>From: "Eugene Dale Tyler" <evx(a)world.sxv.com>
>>Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
>>Subject: FREE MicroVax II and Vaxstation II/RC
>>Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:57:52 +0000
>>Organization: None at all
>>Lines: 19
>>Distribution: World
>>Message-ID: <rqgjbeyqfgqpbz.eullkg2.pminews(a)news.ni.net>
>>Reply-To: "Eugene Dale Tyler" <evx(a)world.sxv.com>
>>NNTP-Posting-Host: edtserv.tylerent.com
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>>
>>Hello,
>>
>>I am scapping a MicroVax-II (TS05/TK50/RA81) and a
>>Vaxstation II/RC with a b/w monitor (VR260AA).
>>
>>They are located in Laguna Niguel, CA. You must arrange
>>pickup.
>>
>>If you are interested, e-mail me at the mangled address:
>>
>>evx(a)world,sxv.com
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Dale
>>Change 'x' to 't' and 'v' to 'd' to reconstruct my e-mail address
>>This inconvience brought to you by the net-scum of the world.
>>
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What did WYSE use in their machines? UNIX, no less?
>
>>>
>>> Is there anyone who DIDN'T make a UNIX port?
>>> Apple - A/UX
>>> IBM - AIX
>>> MS - Xenix
>>> AT&T - UNIX
>>> DEC?
>>
>>DEC - Ultrix ?
>
>Ultrix-11
>Ultrix-32 (later renamed Ultrix, when the -11 version was retired)
>
>There's also a VENIX for the PRO series..
>
> Megan Gentry
> Former RT-11 Developer
>
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>There are plenty of surplus PDP-8s and PDP-11's only a hundred miles
>from here. Practically new, but one catch: Slightly used....only nuked
>once.
>
>As a bit of trivia, PDPs (8s/10s/11s) were the preferred machine at the
>nuclear test site in Nevada. They were used for (expendable)
>instrumentation very close to ground zero. Quite a few were converted
>into plasma.
A friend of mine (through DECUS symposia) who work(ed?) at Sandia National
labs told me about what they did with them...
There would be a pdp-11 down the hole with the device, connected via
Ethernet to another pdp-11 with core, topside in a van. When the device
was set off, the signals from the now-very-fried-11 would race the
fireball up the hole where the data would be stored in core. (The speed
of the advancing fireball could be somewhat determined by using TDR on the
ethernet cable :-)
When the shockwave hit the van, it would go bouncing across the desert
until it came to rest. If was able to, it would continue recording
information. If not, they came along at a later time and pulled the core
plane and installed it in another machine where they would try to read it.
>>
>> Is there anyone who DIDN'T make a UNIX port?
>> Apple - A/UX
>> IBM - AIX
>> MS - Xenix
>> AT&T - UNIX
>> DEC?
>
>DEC - Ultrix ?
Ultrix-11
Ultrix-32 (later renamed Ultrix, when the -11 version was retired)
There's also a VENIX for the PRO series..
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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| Unix Support Engineering Group | (home): mbg(a)world.std.com |
| Digital Equipment Corporation | |
| 110 Spitbrook Rd. ZK03-2/T43 | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ |
| Nashua, NH 03062 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler |
| (603) 884 1055 | required." - mbg |
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>On Tue, 16 Jun 1998, Tony Duell wrote:
>
>> > Is there anyone who DIDN'T make a UNIX port?
>[...]
>> DEC - Ultrix ?
>
>Don't forget Eunice! OK, maybe it's better that you forget.
Eunice wasn't a DEC product, though. It was done by the folks who
eventually became The Wollongong Group.
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
On www.osnews.com, it turns out that MS put up a Linux server,
linus.microsoft.com. THe fun part is that the next day they took it
down, probably so that no one would notice it was ever up (guess
courtesy of OSNews)
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