>Joe,
>
>Actually, I wasn't crying at all until I saw in "The Road Ahead" where the
>marketing manager took complete credit for the entire concept and design.
>Too bad the design was a prototype and not fully debugged. Guess he got
>what he deserved. Besides we were only promised the first 2000 of
production.
>
>Ray Holt
Actually, remember that they DIDN'T MAKE $599 per unit, because the cost of
production was probably at least $250-350. Then they didn't directly sell
them to end users, but to resellers, for about a $100 max profit... it adds
up. Unless you bought it directly from RS, where I guess you made their
lying pockets bigger.
Actually, if I were in your posistion, I'd be mad that I didn't put more
bugs in!!! Just be glad that you eventually got some decent jobs, and
credit for your work. I'm sure that bigger things have happened in world
history, but I can't name any at the moment.
Don't worry, I think that all of us give you credit for your work.
(Mostly to Sam Ismail): Is there going to be a VCF Journal or something
that we can buy? Unfortuanately, I'll be in Guyana in school at the time in
question... kinda hard to go 4,000 away from class.
Ciao,
Tim D. Hotze
>Ray will certainly have his day soon.
Everyone has their 15 minutes of glory. His will be a lot longer than 15
minutes.
>> (Mostly to Sam Ismail): Is there going to be a VCF Journal or
something
>> that we can buy? Unfortuanately, I'll be in Guyana in school at the time
in
>> question... kinda hard to go 4,000 away from class.
>
>Yes. I will definitely be producing a show album for VCF2, including the
>talks on cassette. I'm still working on the VCF 1.0 "Lecture Series"
>(should have had it done by now but work is sucking up all my time).
Thanks. I'll have to see how that turns out.
>Sam Alternate e-mail:
dastar(a)siconic.com
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>Ever onward.
>
> September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2
> See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!
> [Last web page update: 05/11/98]
>
Tim D. Hotze
Does anyone know where I can secure a copy of the schematics for the
TRS-80 Model 1?
PS. I have schematics for the TI-99/4a if anyone is interested.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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Don't blame me...I voted for Satan.
Coming in September...Vintage Computer Festival 2.0
See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!
[Last web page update: 05/05/98]
I offer $100 for the IMSAI CPU card and IMSAI documentation.
steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Wirehead Prime [SMTP:wirehead@retrocomputing.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 1998 6:49 PM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: RETROCOMPUTING LIQUIDATION
Over the next several weeks I will be liquidating my collection of
antique computers. I won't go into the reasons why except to say
that
the reasons for doing so are not bad. In other words, I'm not being
forced to do it by bad circumstances. I'll leave it at this: I
need the
space in my home to expand a business venture that has brought me a
great
deal of genuine happiness over the last few months.
I will be liquidating the following:
TRS-80 Model III with Software
Northstar Horizon with spare CPU card and a spare grungy chassis
2 Commodore 128 computers and 1 1571 disk drive and some
miscellaneous
Commodore peripherals
2 Commodore 64 computers with no PSs in unknown condition
Ohio Scientific Challenger in working condition with keyboard and
monitor
Computer Systems Associations Micro 68000 Development System
TEI 22 slot S100 backplane
2 small boxes of S100 cards including an IMSAI cpu board, several
static
ram cards, a Disk Jockey II disk controller and several others
An entire shelf of S100 and CPM documentation including manuals for
the
IMSAI (original) and the Altair (copies)
Epson QX-10 working with all software including CP/M 2.2, no printer
Xerox 820 system, with spare motherboards, 2 8" drives, monitors and
spare keyboards
PDP-11/34 with RK05f and RK05j
and last but certainly NOT least
3 PDP-8i systems, one cpu only, one with a high speed paper tape
reader
punch and one with a DECtape drive, lots of spare parts, full
documentation including schematic print sets, DEC OS/8 on paper tape
and
several boxes of home-grown software on paper tape...includes ASR-33
Teletype in good condition - all condition unknown, not recommended
for
the beginning retrocomputerist
GNT Paper tape reader/punch that connects to RS-232 with manual and
a
roll of black paper tape
Now for what I want out of this stuff...
Of course, cash is acceptable. I'll also accept trades for
pre-press
equipment like Linotype-Hell imagesetting equipment, RIPs and/or
media
developers/processors, small sheet-fed presses, black and white
flatbed
scanners suitable for a Macintosh, Quark Xpress 3.x up for the Mac,
binding equipment like sheet collators or edge staplers, CD-ROM
drive
(any speed) for Macintosh, Macintosh font collections, digital
duplicators, photocopiers and/or laser printers etc. If you think
it's
useful for preparing or printing a newsletter/magazine, I may be
interested in it.
Bet you can't guess what kind of business I'm involved in... =-)
In some cases, I'll donate the equipment to a good home if I think
it's
warranted. The only thing I can't donate is the PDP-8s as I have a
significant investment in them and need to get $250-$300 each from
them
on average to recover my retrieval costs.
Buyer/trader must either pay shipping costs from Des Moines, Iowa to
your
location or come to Des Moines to pick the items up. The PDPs will
all
have to be picked up as each is in a 6' tall rack about 24 inches
wide
and deep.
All bids and trade offers should be made via private email as this
is the
only public posting I'll make. I'm not going to make up any complex
rules about what bid I'll select or deadlines etc. But if I say you
got
it for a specific price/trade and a higher one comes in, well that's
just
too bad for me. So don't expect an IMMEDIATE answer on your bid.
If you need more information/specifics on an item, send me private
email
and I'll give you all the info I can to help you make a decision.
Let the frenzy begin!!! =-)
Anthony Clifton - Wirehead
PS: I'll be discontinuing the website at www.retrocomputing.com in
a
month or so I can focus all my resources on the new venture.
>(Why does everybody have an IPC but me? I want my IPC!)
Not everyone... I'm still looking for mine. 8^( I swear, if Sam keeps
posting all these neat finds, one of these days I'm gonna figure out where
his garage is and pay him a visit (at about 3am)... 8^)
--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-
Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.sinasohn.com/
Sam Ismail <dastar(a)wco.com> writes:
> Oh come on. The PET I can agree with, but the TRS-80 still required the
> purchase of an external monitor, and one could just as easily (if not more
Yes and no. You could buy a TRS-80 without the monitor, but Radio
Shack advertisements featured it as a system including the monitor and
cassette recorder, and the featured prices were for complete systems
(not like the "monitor not included" you see in computer ads these
days). And the pricing was set up so that if you bought the computer
and the monitor you got the cassette recorder and manual "included
free".
Source: "Radio Shack TRS-80 Microcomputer System Products" catalog
"New for 1978", and I'm thinkin' I got it in early 1978,
certainly before I saw a Level II BASIC system
-Frank McConnell
if you have one that works, i need it so i can actually use a profile i have.
i can either trade pc or apple // cards including apple mouse cards or buy it
outright. message me privately, please.
david
Well, I picked up some more goodies today.
An HP Integral PC. I didn't much pay attention to the one Frank M.
brought to VCF 1.0 so it was all new to me when I actually started messing
with this one. I couldn't get it to do anything useful though. How do I
drop out of PAM and into a shell? This one has a 1Meg RAM Carrier and a
Serial Interface.
An HP75D in a little docking station which has a built-in modem. The
computer itself has a Text Formatter ROM module and an 8K RAM module
(its neat, it tucks away inside the battery compartment). It also has a
magnetic program strip reader.
A Yamaha Music Computer. This is one of those MSX jobbies. I got a
fairly complete system: computer, printer, 3.5" disk drive, music
keyboard, some carthridges & tapes, manuals. It's pretty neat. Here's a
hoot from the _MSX BASIC Reference Manual_:
"MSX is an open ended system standardized throughout its full range of
manufacturers and models--the final step towards the dream of perfect
compatibility."
I paid $120 for this lot, which was more than I wanted to. I guess I
didn't do too bad considering I talked the guy down from $200. Well, come
to think of it, with the completeness of the Yamaha, plus the fact that
MSX computers are so rare in the states, and the cool factor and scarcity
of the Integral PC, $120 isn't bad, but its still more than I wanted to
pay :)
Oh yeah, somehow my 220v computer came up and the seller ended up lending
me a 110/220 step up/down transformer. The only problem with using this
on the 220 computer I have is that it has those funky European two-prong
outlets on it, and no exposed wiring. Now I'll have to go find some funky
Euro two-prong plugs. I appreciate all the responses I received regarding
my query. I just haven't had time to go through them yet. But I'm hoping
I can leave the original power supply intact inside the computer and not
have to do any modifications to it by using this transformer. My only
reservation is the fact that it doesn't have a ground plug. I'm sure I
can just pass the ground connection on from the computer to my wall outlet
since the ground lead is attached directly to the computer case, no?
BTW, the computer in question is the California Technology International
1032-A Z80 machine (crica 1979) that I mentioned was among the rarer in my
collection. It has a 1-line by 16 character 16-segment LED display, a
built-in stringy floppy drive, and 32K RAM. The keyboard is a flat
membrane. A very odd beast. I got it shipped from a guy in Denmark,
which explains the 220v power supply.
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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Ever onward.
September 26 & 27...Vintage Computer Festival 2
See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!
[Last web page update: 05/11/98]
Hello, all:
What's the best way to read N* DSDD CPM disks on a PeeCee? I downloaded
22disk from Sydex, but the configuration file that lists the supported CPM
types does not list Northstar. Maybe it's supported in the full version of
22disk. Anyone know?
Rich Cini/WUGNET
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On Fri, 22 May 1998 08:46:50 -0700, Kip Crosby <engine(a)chac.org> wrote
At 11:20 5/22/98 -0400, Marty wrote:
> What exactly is the distinction between the "Series 0" and "Series 1?"
> To me a no floppy 5150 16KB-64KB would be missing a floppy controller
> and floppy drives.
>>I don't know and have never known. Unless I miss my guess, the tech ref
>>was the same for all 16-64's, so there's probably no telling from docs
>>unless someone has access to IBM internal memos.
I thought that I remember reading somewhere that the difference was the
ROM version. There were two versions, one in early August, 1981, and one in
late-August (I have a FAQ on this somewhere, I just have to find it). The
early-August machines are *very* rare from what I have read.
Rich Cini/WUGNET
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