>Does anyone on the list have any Soviet-manufactured systems? This
might
>be a good thing to look for when (whoever it was that wrote the list
that
>he was going to Hungary soon) goes over there.
>
Do Russian slide rules coun
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At 12:10 4/16/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Does anyone on the list have any Soviet-manufactured systems? This might
>be a good thing to look for when (whoever it was that wrote the list that
>he was going to Hungary soon) goes over there.
Er.... When we fell heir to the big heap of Apple stuff outside Sacramento,
one of the things we found when we dug in a bit was a Soviet Apple ][ clone
called an Elektronika. I can't quote chapter and verse because we haven't
really unbuttoned it yet, but it would seem that the really astounding part
isn't the computer, it's the monitor. We also have schematics and, when I
have a bit more (i. e. nonzero) free time, I'm going to ferret out someone
who can read them. Max would probably be a good start!
Also, for a source on this, remember that in _TCJ_ a guy named Helmut
Jungkunz wrote a bunch of columns about both Soviet and East German computers.
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Computer History Association of California
I check on this subject every 6 months whether I need to or not. What
happened to this invaluable resource? Has it ever been posted anywhere?
thanks
Kai
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kai Kaltenbach
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 1997 10:56 AM
> To: 'classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu'
> Subject: RE: Altair scans update
>
> Whatever happened to these?
>
> thanks
>
> Kai
>
> ----------
> From: Richard A. Cini, Jr.[SMTP:rcini@classic.msn.com]
> Reply To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 1997 5:31 AM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Altair scans update
>
> For those who have asked...
>
> The Altair scans are ready to post, I just have to ZIP them up and
> send the
> tape to Bill Whitson. Does anyone have his physical address??
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Rich Cini/WUGNET
> <rcini(a)msn.com>
> - ClubWin Charter Member (6)
> - MCP Windows 95/Netowrking
>
Can anybody help this guy out?
-- Doug
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:06:52 -0400
From: Mark Frey <markfrey(a)bright.net>
To: Doug Yowza <yowza(a)yowza.com>
Subject: Re: Epson HX40
I need it to control a traffic sign board like you see on highway
construction projects. Lets just say that these things are hard to find.
The manufacturer has a EPROM they plug into the HX40 with the program.
At 12:42 AM 4/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I just got an HX-20, and I've got some other machines that have a similar
>form factor (like the TRS-80 Model 100), but no HX-40. Why are you
>looking for that model specifically?
>
>-- Doug
>
>On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Mark wrote:
>
>> I need an Epson HX-40 to actually use. Might you have one????
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> markfrey(a)bright.net
>>
>
>
>
Mark Frey
> From: "Hotze" <photze(a)batelco.com.bh>
> Subject: Is this possible? (Storage) (Off-topic?)
>
> Sorry, but this has been bugging me for quite some time. In Star Trek, they
> use "Isolinear" based memory circuts to store information in both the short
> and long term. So, from the looks of it, it's some kind of crystal, and can
> transmit it's data very quickly, and with no moving parts, so I'm guessing
> that it's similiar to today's RAM. Now, for the hard part: It can hold
> entire encyclopedia's in tiny amounts. In one episiode, they had nanites,
> little robot-bugs that could hold "gigabytes of information," and were
> microscopic. Furthermore, in some episodes, they find Chodak and T'Kon
> ruins, between 900,000 to 700,000 years old, with half or more of the data
> intact.
> Was crystaline storage ever attempted like this? Is it possible?
> Feasable?
A few years back I read a facinating article on holographic storage systems.
Where the medium was a 'slide sized' wafer and was recorded and read
holographically using a laser beam. Being holographic in nature the denisty
was way more then magnetic disc or CD. That was the closest that I've read to
Star Trek like storage.
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>At 12:18 PM 4/12/98 -0700, you wrote:
>>A few years back I read a facinating article on holographic storage
systems.
>>Where the medium was a 'slide sized' wafer and was recorded and read
>>holographically using a laser beam. Being holographic in nature the
denisty
>>was way more then magnetic disc or CD. That was the closest that I've
read to
>>Star Trek like storage.
>
>There was a nice feature in Scientific American a few years back about
>holographic storage. Early 1995 i believe, possible 96.
I remember last summer, there was something in CNN about Berkley (or one
of those California universities that you'd associate with
computers/technology) Developing a blue laser. This could radically change
everything, including DVD.
Ciao,
Tim D. Hotze
At 12:18 PM 4/12/98 -0700, you wrote:
>A few years back I read a facinating article on holographic storage systems.
>Where the medium was a 'slide sized' wafer and was recorded and read
>holographically using a laser beam. Being holographic in nature the denisty
>was way more then magnetic disc or CD. That was the closest that I've read to
>Star Trek like storage.
There was a nice feature in Scientific American a few years back about
holographic storage. Early 1995 i believe, possible 96.
Adam
( Adam Fritzler afritz(a)iname.com )
http://afritz.base.org/
>>The soviets always had comparable technology, but were limited by
>>inefficient manufacturing and logistics. Those only exposed to western
>>design philosophy tend to belittle soviet engineers because of the
>>seemingly crude appearance of their equipment, but they had to meet
>>vastly different product requirements. Their export market was the
>>underdeveloped third world, no infrastructure at all. When your target
>>market is some place like Mongolia, Eritrea or South Yemen you have an
>>entirely different set of design parameters. There is no Radio Shack
>>down the corner, no parts store in town, no UPS delivery service. Even
>
>Why Radio Shack when you have BFI? I can just imagine a fried US
>made cell phone flying into a third-world bonfire...that sure would
>stink. Another reason why Russian products were build to last was,
>very simply, because if you trash your phone, you'd have to get on
>a two-month waiting list to get another one.
See? That's my biggest complaint about the Soviets. They gave communism a
bad name. The USSR, in my opinion, wasn't a true communism any more than
Rome was a democracy after they had "dictators for life." Nice try, but a
true communism would be the opposite. Everyone would have everything, if
humans worked on an equal basis. That's why communisms don't work with
people: They'res a few rotten apples in every barrell.
Also, look at Soviet technology and people as a whole. Even though
MiG's did use vaccum tubes, they were still considered a threat, when
equipped with Soviet pilots.
As for the technology, I'll say that it wasn't behind the US, but rather
on a path that we didn't follow, and so it looked like they were behind us.
BTW, I'm guessing that with a $20,000 A2 clone, the avreage Dmitri didn't
get one in the USSR.
Tim D. Hotze
