In a message dated 98-03-22 08:10:20 EST, you write:
<< OK. What exactly does a language card do? (Sorry, I'm new at this).. >>
the language card also gives a 48k apple ][+ 64k of memory which is required
to run versions of prodos < v2.0
david
Ok, here's a group of cards made by Hewlett Packard that appear to be of
a mini computer style....
The first three have the white extractor tabs on two corners (much like
an HP 1000's cards do) and are 7.5" by 17" and have female header
connectors on the bottom 17" edge. Here's each card:
1) p/n 07980-66503 and has three bios looking socketed chips in the
upper left corner. These are numbered 88780-12122, -12222, -12322 and
there's a crystal for 20mhz on board. My guess is it's a processor
board?
2) p/n 07980-66534 and has a quick lock type ribbon cable socket on the
top/left, two bios looking chips numbered 88780-12423 and-12523. this
has a flat coin type battery next to the ribbon connector, a Motorola
MC68000 and 12 mhz crystal below that. Isn't the 68000 part of the Mac
computers? I have no guess on this one other than maybe an processor or
emulator card.
3) p/n 07980-66531 and has two ribbon quick locks. One is the same as
the last card but behind a steel shield plate. The other is similar to
the one used on older floppy controllers. This one also only has two
bottom connectors rather than three like the other two.
The fourth appears to be an SCSI card. It's irregular in shape and has
two 50 pin Centronics females as well as two 50 pin quick lock ribbon
connectors, one next to the Cent's and one on the opposite side. There's
a bios type chip with a label reading 88780-12618/U51 SCSI 6.62 and a
strange type brown two pin poweer connector. It appears to be mounted by
screws, not cage/slide mounted. It measures 11" x 6.25" and has a cutout
of roughly 3.5 x 4.5 inches near the two prong brown power type
connector.
Ok...you people know more about the big hardware than me. It's been 5
years since I've even seen an HP 1000 mini (from when I used an ESTS
station in the AF to test missiles) and it's all a blur. Anyone know
what these are, what they're from, and a possible new home for them? I
hate to throw away the heavy hardware since I know it's costly and in
some cases scarce. If someone wants to make me an offer for the four I'm
sure I'd take it. Remember, these look like they're good and are
untested. Let's face it though, anytime you can get something HP without
paying HP's price you're doing good. I'd especially take anything PC
parts wise in trade for these if someone has something good they can
spare.
Make me an offer and we'll go from there. They WILL go to the dump at
the end of March though. They weigh probably 5-6 lbs for all four, very
light.
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I picked up a board at a Hamfest last summer, and I still don't know what
the heck it is. It may not even be computer related - might come from a
photocopier or something. :)
The board measures about 7.75" in length, and a little over 3" high. Its
slot connector has 72 pins, measuring a bit more than 3.5" in length.
It LOOKS like it could be RAM, but it's not like anything I've seen
elsewhere.
There are 16 long "plates" of what seems to be some kind of ceramic
material, each with four chips embedded in them, two to each side. The
"plates" measure over 2" in length, are notched at one end, and are marked
"125B", "886-2".
The chips that are embedded in the plates are marked "-607-2", with
varying numbers beneath (e.g. "01386 34", "04836 77"). They appear to
have 30 pins each, with 10 pins on each 'long' side and 5 pins at each
end. All pins come out the bottom of the chips rather than the sides as
on DIPs.
There are some other chips on the board, three of which (20-pin) are
labeled:
AM2966PC
WP90101L1 8546DMP
There are seven 16-pin chips labeled:
WE
63S 1
11085 74
And another 16-pin chip labeled:
WE
63S 1
12685 77
There is a yellow bar-code sticker on one end of the board which reads
"860C03900901".
There's a stamp in the middle reading "ATP221".
On the back side of the board is "844292540 AM 2 CM192B".
I've probably gone overboard with the discription, but I don't know what
info is relevant to identifying this thing. The guy I bought it from
clearly didn't know what he was selling (but I asked anyway). I bought it
with a bunch of old PC cards filled with old RAM chips I may need someday.
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
>I just saw Wargames; what an excellent movie! I encourage
everyone who
>hasn't seen it already to see it.
>
>I ask this question when seeing any technology-based movie;
>how much of the technology is actually possible? Who was
Professor
>Falken in the movie based upon? Can a JOSHUA be built?
>
Look for another movie sometime, "Dr. Strangelove". The crazed
nuclear scientist character in most all movies is based on Dr.
Edward Teller, father of the US H-bomb (Sakharov produced the
soviet H-bomb at the same time) and an influential advisor to
Eisenhower. Teller is also the guy who convinced Reagan to go
ahead with the "Star Wars" missle defense program (and if you
think that "Star Wars" was a stupid idea that was cancelled,
guess again, it is alive and well, just goes by other names
these days).
As for the rest of the movie, it was pure Hollywood. Secure
facilities don't have unsecured phone line, and especially no
incoming phone lines. BTW, the kid's computer was an IMSAI
S-100, and the graphics (if I recall correctly) were generated
by Godbout S-100 systems.
Jack Peacock
I've got a Mac 512K that came with two MacSnap devices installed in it.
The MacSnap SCSI adapter plugs into the Mac's ROM sockets, and provides a
25-pin SCSI connector out the back of the Mac. The Mac seems to pay no
attention to my Zip drive when it is attached to this connector, though,
so I guess that it needs some kind of driver? Does anyone have this
software?
Also, the machine came with 512K on a MacSnap memory board. It looks like
there's enough space for 1.5MB on the board. I had to remove the board to
get the Mac to boot, however. Even the "Sad Mac" image was garbled with
this thing in place. I think it is because two of the connectors are
cracked.
The MacSnap memory board actually snaps onto the top of existing chips on
the motherboard, because there is no "normal" means of expanding the Mac
512K.
Does anyone know if the 16-pin "snaps" are standard parts (i.e.
AVAILABLE)? These are parts that fit over 16-pin DIPs, with metal
contacts that push against the legs of the chips.
What would be the proper name for these parts?
There are four 20-pin "snaps" and two 16-pin "snaps" on the underside of
the memory board, but it is only the 16-pin parts that are cracked.
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
I think I've asked this before, but it might be a different crowd out
there now.
Does anyone know the specs of the power supply needed to power the Z-80
Video Pak from Data 20 Corporation? This is a cartridge for the Commodore
64 that is supposed to allow the 64 to run CP/M, and gives it an 80-column
text mode.
Does anyone have a manual for this cartridge? The only info I have on it
are from the text on the box, and from inspecting the cart itself.
Doug Spence
ds_spenc(a)alcor.concordia.ca
FOund on usenet, reply directly to poster....
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> After hearing about some of the cool things you folks find at thrift
> stores, I decided to hit a couple today. I was pretty disappointed in the
> slim pickings, but I found a couple of interesting but useless items:
If you're referring in part to the HP-41 I mentioned last night, I went
back today and it was gone. Sob.
If any of you are in Oregon, though, it's probably worth your while to go
to the Goodwill on Coburg Rd in Eugene. Frequently. Today, they had a
Heathkit H19, a Kaypro 4, an AT&T 6300 PC, a couple of Laser 128s, a
couple of CoCo 2s, stacks of C= stuff, a Sperry luggable XT, something
that said Vector Graphics on it, and lots more. All priced at under $10,
and today was 40% off day. That list only contains stuff that was still
there when I left - I'm driving across the country tomorrow morning, so
I'm under some space constraints.
Normally, I'd offer to pick things up for people and ship them off, but
like I said, I'm driving back to Iowa tomorrow. Eugene/Portland people
on the list?
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Wow, this is global. -Mtn Goats
Need any info I can get on the TI Silent 700 Model 787 data terminal. I
have one(in storage right now), and am talking to someone by email who has
a 745 and 780. So if you have any info on any of those terminals, let me
know. Thanks
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Gone are three 486 clones that have been languishing in my garage for
nearly a year. They were traded for: an Apple Lisa 2, an Osborne
Executive, and a Northstar Horizon. The Lisa and Osborne have boot
disks and other software, and so far seem to work well. I also got a
Profile hard drive with the Lisa, but I haven't tried to hook it up
yet... I haven't messed with the Horizon at all, but it looks to be in
good shape, with CPU, ram, disk and i/o cards installed, along with a
couple of diskettes in the drives that might boot it, not sure yet.
I'll holler for help if this gives me trouble whenever I get to it,
though I do have huge collection of manuals for it that I had picked up
in anticipation of this day ;) Additionally, the guy I got all this
stuff from tossed in about a dozen cartridges for the TI-99 and Coco3
that I didn't already have. Happy happy joy joy.
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