Hi,
I need to clean up some of the excess around here before Christmas so I'm
offering a HP 9816 computer for sale or trade for the best offer. I have
another and need to get this one out of the way. The 9816 is the smallest
of the HP 9000 series 200 computers and has a 68000 CPU. It runs BASIC, HPL
and/or Pascal. This one works fine but is missing the top cover and some
of the keytops for the keyboard. The switchs are intact so tops can robbed
>from another HP keyboard and simply plugged in. It does include the
original small keyboard. These keyboards are rare since most users bought
the bigger HP 98203 keybaord. For more information, look at
"http://www.intellistar.net/~rigdonj/hp9000.htm".
Joe
>I've got an 8530 and it's console here. It's a Pro380 IIRC.
>It's front panel is marked Vaxconsole, but it has Pro380 on it somewhere
>else
>I think.... I'll have a look...
At least on the North American models, there's a UL/CSA sticker near
the power jack with the model designation (i.e. "PC380-AA").
It certainly could've been a Pro 350 that originally shipped with the
Venus. The ones I've seen are 380's, but I don't know if they're
original or not. Since *the* definitive RT-11 Pro expert is on this
list, I'm certain we'll get a good answer soon :-)
As long as we're on the topic, anyone have a Ethernet card for the
Pro that they'd like to sell? I'm willing to pay CA$H! (The goal
is to put Alan Baldwin's TCP/IP for RT-11 on a Pro and run a web server.)
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>And on the same topic, didn't DECUS provide free (or low cost) software
>applications? Did the same mentality apply to that, or did the letters "DEC"
>tend to give more credibility to that software?
DECUS distributes (and has distributed) software that others wrote and
put into the public domain. *Very* roughly speaking, DECUS-distributed
software can be split into two groups:
1. Software that DEC employees wrote on DEC time, and which DEC put
into the public domain so that DECUS could distribute it. BLISS-32
is a recent example. Often these are tools that were used internally
to DEC for development purposes, which they don't want to turn into
commercially supported products, but they recognize the great usefulness
of these tools.
2. Software that random ordinary users wrote and gave to DECUS to
distribute.
Keep in mind that "random ordinary users" in the 1960's or 1970's
often means something very different than it does today. Also, DECUS
is a different organization today than it was 10 or 20 or 30 years
ago.
You might want to browse through the VMS-oriented DECUS submissions
at http://www.decus.org/ , or the PDP-11 oriented DECUS submissions at
http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-11/decus/
and view the wide range of stuff available, and the wide range of
sources that it comes from!
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This is a couple of months off topic,but I'll post it anyway. At my school,
there are a couple dozen Laserjet Series IIs. I've been trying to install
four into one room, and for some reason almost every single one claims a paper
jam right as soon as I tell it to print ( a self test, for example). The paper
hardly gets out of the tray, it's generally just starting to get past the
roller that pulls it in when the printer returns an error. Sometimes it does
this, sometimes it doesn't. Any ideas?
Thanks
>::There are plenty of ways of preventing a BASIC program from being
listed.
>::Dunno how you prevent it being saved (and say 'BAD PROGRAM'), but I
could
>::probably figure it out given time... Anyone else?
>
> On the 64, you could type
>
> 10 remL
>
> (rem, then a shifted-L)
>
> and LIST will stop up with a ?SYNTAX ERROR when it hits that line.
Rather
> easy to defeat but annoying as heck. :-)
Same on Basic 2 PETS. On BASIC 1 you used shift-K.
Possibility that I thought of, but didn't try. Make the initial line a v.
high line number (>63999). Have the program start rem L, then disable the
stop key, then poke that line number to something smaller. Bit harder to
defeat but won't deter the determined cracker.
Mean trick I did use. In the middle of a subroutine I entered the line
REM@TURN
I then found the @ sign and poked the location with 20 (ctrl-T, the PET
backspace)
This now lists as RETURN but does nothing...
Philip.
>> > Why do POKE and PEEK fail there? Was that done on purpose or is it
just
>> > the result of something lame like using a signed value to represent
>> > addresses?
>> No, it's software. It was a feature that was supposed to prevent
>> inquisitive geeks disassembling the BASIC ROM between $C000 and (I
think)
>> $E7FF. The OS ROMs, above $F000, were peekable, though, as was the I/O
>
> It was totally useless for that. The sort of person who could disassemble
> and make sense of the BASIC ROM was the sort of person who could also
> write enough machine code to copy the ROM into (peekable) RAM a few K at
> a time...
I just added a little machine code routine to my disassembler that peeked
the byte it was looking at for it. I was really annoyed to find that I
needed one for the assembler as well to do the poking...
BTW BASIC programs up in the ROM expansion space didn't work. The machine
relied on the MSB of the address not being set for one or two things, I
can't remember what.
Philip.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Pechter <pechter(a)pechter.dyn.ml.org>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Wednesday, 2 December 1998 0:32
Subject: Re: VAX collectors attention
>> At least on the North American models, there's a UL/CSA sticker near
>> the power jack with the model designation (i.e. "PC380-AA").
Yup. I just looked. It's a 380.
Cheers
Geoff
Computer Room Internet Cafe
Port Pirie
South Australia.
netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au
>> A friend of mine at a large company (whose initials are International
>> Business Machine, but you didn't hear that from me 8-) had to route traffic
>> between Token Ring and Ethernet. NT didn't work (no surprise there),
Hmm, I had exactly the same trouble. Worked fine on a linux machine
routing between our company token ring and a couple of SGI Origin
servers on 100 meg ethernet, but NT wasn't having any of it.
Unfortunately I seem to be the only person here who has any real Unix
skills, so Linux was out of the question for the router. I ended up
writing a Java application to relay socket connections on the NT machine
that sat between the ethernet and token ring, so at least HTTP and
Telnet would work - FTP had to be done as a two-stage process...
cheers
Jules
>(sorry for OT)
>As far as the Pro ethernet... I'd kill for one too.
The part you need is the DECNA... I might just have one (maybe
two). I'll have to check...
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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>>
>> Hi!
>> I know that there's a program to make a Hercules Mono monitor emulate a
CGA,
>> but is there a program that will allow a CGA emulate an EGA or VGA?
>
>That's rather like asking if a PC/XT can emulate a 386.
Well I don't see why some sort of software could make a CGA emulate a VGA.
Or a video card that would be VGA, but drive a CGA monitor, since the video
card in my Pentium will drive a composite Apple monitor at 640x480
16.million colors.
I basically want to get better graphics from the programs that I use on my
laptops (most are CGA). I'm usually stuck in text mode, 2-color CGA, but
even EGA would be better, and getting a new video card and monitor just
isn't an option.
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