test-drb November 1998

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by jfoust＠threedee.com

At 07:22 AM 11/10/98 -0500, cswiger wrote: > >>From the February '76 Computer Notes: > >8K BASIC - $200 > w/ purchase - $75 Puts the "bundle Windows with all your boxes or else" tactic in a new light, doesn't it? :-) - John

25 years, 8 months

Posted tonight

by rcini＠email.msn.com

Hello, all: Here's what was posted to my ClassicCmp site tonight: - remaining parts of R6500 Programming manuals [ Rich Cini/WUGNET [ ClubWin!/CW7 [ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking [ Collector of "classic" computers [ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ [ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/pdp11/ <================ reply separator =================>

25 years, 8 months

Elf99 - rebirth of a classic

by rcini＠email.msn.com

I'd be interested in one, too. I'd consider a bare board for about $40 with a parts sources listing (particularly for the hard-to-get parts). Modern component substitutions would be acceptable I think. [ Rich Cini/WUGNET [ ClubWin!/CW7 [ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking [ Collector of "classic" computers [ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ [ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/pdp11/ <================ reply separator =================>

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XPOST: Adoptables and fairly cheapo machines available - NC

by dburrows＠netpath.net

If someone is interested is any of this my wife works in Chapel Hill and could bring it home and I can box and ship it. Please just check with me before comitting her - she doesn't know she has been conned yet. Dan Burrows 336-376-0468 dburrows(a)netpath.net -----Original Message----- From: Russ Blakeman <rhblake(a)bigfoot.com> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 5:23 PM Subject: XPOST: Adoptables and fairly cheapo machines available - NC >This is a new post on the Obsolete Computer Helpline that I thought >someone may have an interest in. Write to Mike Smith, not me, on these >items. >------------------------------ > >Michael M. Smith <snuggemsnospam(a)nospam.bearwolf.com> >Cary, NC USA - Tuesday, November 10, 1998 at 10:44:04 > > (Remove the nospams when you reply) > > It's time to clean house. I have numerous machines that need to >find homes, for reasonable prices. How > reasonable? Make an offer. Not interested in making any money off >these, as most were given to me or > purchased for a small fee that I've gotten my money's worth out of >from tinkering. > > 1. A TI-99/4A computer with speech synth, power adapter, RF >adapter, cassette program recorder with cables, > many software packages with most in original boxes (The software, >not the machine) Its the black and chrome > model, and everything works perfectly. Oh, and it has the joysticks >with it too. Not sure how well they work. > > 2. Kaypro 1 luggable. Powers up and tries to boot, but no system >disk available. See TRS-80 entry, its disks > might work. > > 3. Kaypro 4 luggable. Same as above. > > 4. Atari 5200 game system. Trackball controller, Atari 2600 >adapter, three 5200 joysticks, one 2600-compatible > joystick, several cartridges. Trackball and joysticks could use >some cleaning, can't get them all to work right. > > 5. TRS-80 Model 4. Manuals, disks, extra programming books, even a >copy of Zaxxon...Looks awful in b&w > though. The B drive is a little flaky, might need cleaning, might >need more. It has TRS-DOS and CP/M 2.2 so > these disks might work with the Kaypros mentioned above. > > 6. Atari 800XL with two 1050 disk drives, the 410 tape recorder, >and a "Big Blue" thermal roll printer. Several > manuals and disks and cartridges. Not in the best of shape, is >quite dirty. One of the 1050 drives is in its original > packaging. Not sure if this works. > > Interested adopters need to be in the RTP area of North Carolina >(Raleigh, Durham, Chapel-Hill) as I am not > willing to ship these items. Any questions regarding specific >cartridges may be addressed to me. Thanks, and help > me get rid of this clutter! Some really interesting items for a >computer museum. > > I also have an IBM PS/2 model 35sx with 16MB of RAM and a 420MB IDE >hard drive (It's an IDE and ISA > model) that I might let out for adoption too, but will have to ask >$30 to recoup the cost of the RAM and the > harddrive I put in it. > > Thanks again! Mike >

25 years, 8 months

Thrift store finds

by maxeskin＠hotmail.com

> One expansion slot (I don't know what kind, but = >it allowed for a video card so you could drive a second display, = >and a commonly-found configuration is an SE driving a giant = >grayscale two-page display). It's a PDS (Processor Direct Slot). As the name implies, a way to connect something directly to the processor. This means that the card that can be plugged in depends on the processor, and also that designing such a card isn't as pleasant as for ISA or S-100 or others. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

25 years, 8 months

Saved Altair 4K BASIC

by allisonp＠world.std.com

< > Entended BASIC - $350 < > w/ purchase - $150 < < Sheesh! No wonder nobody paid for the stuff. These are bloated prices < especially in 1976 dollars. And at current prices a system with enough ram to run extended basic would set you back at least $2000 and that does not include IO or terminal. One caveat, you had to purchase the Altair from MITS and the minimum amount of ram needed to run the package from them too. FYI: in 1977 you could buy a chevy pickup for $6500 to put that price in perspective. The Processor Technology, Digital Group (later TDL) and other folks were turning out software by the pound. It was cheap, good and available. IT was the Gates debacal and people like PCC (AKA Doctor Dobbs) that started the free software revolution and a legacy of so 20,000 free or copyleft programs for the 8080/z80 families alone, likely as much for 6502 based systems. Allison

25 years, 8 months

Another resource for older systems

by dburrows＠netpath.net

>Were you aware of the fact that the listed site is in the Netherlands? Yes and I also noted a some US listings and there are several European posters on this list. Dan

25 years, 8 months

Saved Altair 4K BASIC

by rcini＠email.msn.com

John Foust <jfoust(a)threedee.com> wrote >>There's no reason for him to surrender the copyright; we could >>merely ask for permission to redistribute. I think the PR aspect >>would be a two-edged sword, though - the open source movement >>would have a field day with the notion that Gates finally came >>around and now allows free distribution of one of his products, >>yet I'm sure Microsoft's PR agency could get some mileage from >his benevolence to the classic computer community. From what I've heard, this redistribution idea has made its way around Microsoft (several times) and suffered bit rot. The potential revenues (zero or cost of duplication) outweighed the internal costs. I still pitch the idea to my MS contact occasionally, though. [ Rich Cini/WUGNET [ ClubWin!/CW7 [ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking [ Collector of "classic" computers [ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/ [ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/pdp11/ <================ reply separator =================>

25 years, 8 months

[OT] Alphaserver Oops!

by DSEAGRAV＠toad.xkl.com

Today, for no good reason, our AlphaServer starts making a funny noise. Sounds like something trapped in the fan, but as long as the box doesn't go down, we're safe. It's our main server. So, being the way I am, I decide on a little surgery with the power on. This is the 1st mistake. So, I open the cover to the disks. (THis is an AS 4/266) Lotta dust in there, gotta blow it out! Reward: Dust in eyes. Lotta fun. Then I spot a little tab toward the top of the case. "Top Cover Latch" Aha! Here's what we're after! So, I unlatch it, and pull the lid off. *CLICK!* Whirrrrrrrrr.... *silence* Seems there's a power interlock in the top cover! Oops. -------

25 years, 8 months

Help identifying HP boards

by siconic＠jasmine.psyber.com

Can someone help this guy identify the HP boards he has in his collection? Please reply to the requestor. Reply-to: nelske(a)earthlink.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:19:03 -0800 From: Kevin Nelson <nelske(a)earthlink.net> This is a four board assembly with each board numbered slightly different. The boards are numbered; (A) 5087-1008 D-1117-22 (B) 5087-1002 E-1117-22 (C) 5087-1003 D-1003-22 (D) 5087-1004 D-1117-22 and all have hand written M11148 73-21-044 The M11148 is the serial number. The total assembly contains 139,264 cores. Thanks for the help. Kevin Nelson Sellam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)verio.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always being hassled by the man. Coming in 1999: Vintage Computer Festival 3.0! See http://www.vintage.org/vcf for details [Last web page update: 11/02/98]

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test-drb November 1998