I have two things that I hope someone can identify. One is an item in
a 10-year-old office furniture catalog. It's the desk being
advertised, but the computer is of interest. Could be a prop, but I
doubt it. THe rest of the computers in the catalog are mostly XTs.
The pictures are:
www.geocities.com/researchtriangle/facility/2840/bell1.tiffwww.geocities.com/researchtriangle/facility/2840/bell2.tiff
If people can't read TIFF, I'll convert them to JPEG. The other thing
is an Apple II card. It has a big red switch on the back, and has
8 sockets. It's labelled Apple ROM card, and has ROMs with numbers:
341-0016-00
3410001-00 3410002-00 3410003-00
C48037
They're all in a row, several sockets are empty. Anyone know what this
card does?
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Even if we ignore that the plain G3 systems would likely have been
enough? I heard that Apple sold out of their new G3s even before the
iMac came out. All of the detail to which you refer will be forgotten
in 15 years. By historic, I mean of the magnitude of the original
macintosh, or the PC XT, or Apple II, or Altair, or C64, and others.
These truly changed the face of computing, unlike the iMac.
>
>> Of course, since the iMac has little historical significance, I doubt
it
>
>Say what?! Jobs leaves Apple, Apple dies, Jobs rides his white horse
back
>to Apple, saves Apple with the iMac. What do you want, a big red sign
>that says "COLLECT ME, I'M HISTORIC"?
>
>-- Doug
>
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>Minor locational variations, in Oz it tends to be NFG (No F***ing Good) or
>NBG (No Bloody Good) or just FUBAR (F***ed Up.......
>a) Beyond Any Repair
>b) Beyond All Recognition
>c) By A Recruit
>d) By A Repairman
>e) By ARmy (of RAAF comms gear that was returned u/s after
> being reluctantly "loaned" to the Army)
>
>and numerous other variations......:^)
>or just plain STUFFED. (not an acronym, AFAIK):^)
At 1 federal lab I used to work at we had an HP terminal that had 1 bad key
switch so I stole the coma from the keypad and moved it to where it was
needed. I then made a nice label for the bad coma key with NFG on it. The
person in charge of the section said he would send anyone that asked what
that meant to me. I was there for another 2 years and nobody asked either
of us.
Dan
Your local scrap electronics dealer. They pull everything out and throw
away the bags and foam. They are very happy to give it to you - It saves on
what goes into the dumpster that goes to the landfill. They have to pay for
everything that goes to the landfill. I have scrapper trained to save all
of it for me. Sometimes he even gets in boxes of brand new bags and foam.
:)
For DEC Unibus and Qbus boards I use the BA11 expansion boxes and fill them
up. I fit 5 BA11's in a rack and can still see quickly what I have and
don't have to use my limited supply of bags until I have to final test and
ship the board.
For other items I have thought about using RL02/RA8X slide rails and making
boxes lined with foam to hold them in the rack. Anything to help keeping
things easy to find and protected.
Dan Burrows
> What is a recommend source for inexpensive pink antistatic foam rolls
or
>bags? I've looked in several industrial supply catalogs, like Consolidated
>Packaging, but want to see if there is a better price out there.
>
> I've got so many boards...and so little time!
>
>[ Rich Cini/WUGNET
>[ ClubWin!/CW7
>[ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
>[ Collector of "classic" computers
>[ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
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Anyone out there still use 3270 systems? I have a ton of microchannel
3270 A and B cards that I really need to unload on someone, maybe for a
minor trade of some of their excess bits and pieces. They're really
getting in my way.
I have a bunch of varied token ring cards too but they seem to be doing
fair on eBay at $2 each. Amazing to see an expensive Thomas Conrad card
go for a lousy $2 or less, still just as usable as they were years ago
but they don't do diddly when the former workstation PC becomes
someone's home machine.
What is a recommend source for inexpensive pink antistatic foam rolls or
bags? I've looked in several industrial supply catalogs, like Consolidated
Packaging, but want to see if there is a better price out there.
I've got so many boards...and so little time!
[ Rich Cini/WUGNET
[ ClubWin!/CW7
[ MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
[ Collector of "classic" computers
[ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
[ http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/pdp11/
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-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Blakeman <rhblake(a)bigfoot.com>
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
Date: Tuesday, 17 November 1998 9:05
Subject: Re: Newbie's got a dead 386
>I used it all the time in the AF, when we had a bad unit we'd mark it FNG,
>otherwise known as F***ing No Good.
Minor locational variations, in Oz it tends to be NFG (No F***ing Good) or
NBG (No Bloody Good) or just FUBAR (F***ed Up.......
a) Beyond Any Repair
b) Beyond All Recognition
c) By A Recruit
d) By A Repairman
e) By ARmy (of RAAF comms gear that was returned u/s after
being reluctantly "loaned" to the Army)
and numerous other variations......:^)
or just plain STUFFED. (not an acronym, AFAIK):^)
>> CNTL-ALT-ESC and CNTL-ALT-F10 are two popular non-DEL bits. You can't
>> do those at power-up. Boot from a floppy and start whacking keys at the
>> DOS prompt.
Have noted CTRL-ALT-S on some machines.
Cheers
Geoff
Computer Room Internet Cafe
Port Pirie
South Australia.
netcafe(a)pirie.mtx.net.au
> About the middle of the row of racks a red fault light flickered, then came
> on brightly. The drawer of the middle disk moved out by itself and when the
> top opened a greyish black cloud came out, paused for a moment over the
> drive, and then was whisked away by the air conditioning.
Wooha - it opend automaticly ? Dangerous. The first thing I
learned on head crash was:
Stop the unit
Unplug power
Unplug Interface
Roll the unit out of the computer room
At best out of the house
Now have fun with the damaged parts :)
At all this steps (but the last), especialy when
a delay ocures, guard the top with your life.
We once had a 144 MB unit crashing on saturday
morning and running (the check logic was damaged)
until monday morning (no operators). The heads have
been scraped completly, and the crashed disk was just
pure alu - no magnetic surface left ... The fun thing
was that parts of the disk stack had been readable until
sunday night ... We couldn't belive the transaction
protocolls :)
> "I believe that pack has crossed over to the other side." said the SP in a
> complete dead pan protestant minister delivery.
:)))))
Gruss
hans
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK
