"Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>I've got one in the basement... six-seven years ago, I even had it
>>fired up over DECnet, talking to Macs and Amigas over Ethernet.
>>Haven't gotten around to documenting it for my web page, though.
>
>Ah, what does it take to get it talking to Mac's and Amiga's? I'm assuming
>if this can be done for the DEC Pro 350, I can do something simular with
>the 11/73 or a VAX.
Well, it takes DECnet networking software. For a while, my company made
and sold a version of DECnet for the Amiga, a licensed port of the
Mac DECnet called TSSnet from Thursby Software <http://www.thursby.com/>.
I don't even have a copy any more, and I've long forgotten how to
use it. You might be able to find a used copy. Don't even bother
to ask Thursby for an Amiga version.
- John
Jefferson Computer Museum <http://www.threedee.com/jcm>
At 04:43 PM 1/11/98 -0600, you wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Zane H. Healy wrote:
>
>> >> first portable computer
>> >
>> >Again, same problem. Define "portable". Allison carted, what was it, a
>>
>> Well, if you believe the Smithsonian's "Museum of American History" and I
>> believe DEC's advertising this goes to one of the PDP's, I don't remember
>> which one. I don't think it was a -8 or -11, and it's been over four years
>> since I was last to the museum so my memory isn't the best. They showed
>> the computer being in the back of a convertible IIRC, and actually had the
>> computer there at the musuem. Big sucker.
>
>Wasn't there a DEC ad showing a PDP-8 fitting in the trunk (boot, or is
>that a hood or bonnet?) of a VW bug? Would that qualify it as portable?
Don't know about that one, but the PDP-8/i was available in a (rarely seen)
'pedistal' configuration that would have been fairly easy to move around,
and the PDP-8/e/f/m came in a 'desktop' configuration that even had handles
on the side. (the 'major' qualification for something to be considered
'portable'). At about 90 pounds for the complete (core, no disks)
configuration, it could be moved with minimal pain by two people...
-jim
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<Close, the Altair 8800 was introduced as the cover project in the Januar
<1975 issue of Popular Electroncs.
Back in those days the January 1975 issues was recieved by mid december at
the latest. I know as the cover of my issue has the last of MITS numbers
and a $1300 total and a mailing date in december 1974.
Also the machine on the cover bore only a resemblance to the production
machine as it was a proto.
ALlison
Can anyone help this guy? Please respond directly to him.
Thanks,
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Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:12:00 +0100
From: Haering Martin <MARTIN.HAERING(a)hl.siemens.de>
To: Paul E Coad <pcoad(a)wco.com>
Subject: AW: Re: MCS-85 manual wanted
Hello Paul,
thank you very much for your quick respose.
You're right, I'm german and I can see the problem with shipping. But I
think we would find a solution there.
But let me first tell you that my problem has changed now. I looked for
the MCS-85 manual on my loft and - under a thick layer dust - i found it
there. But instantly my next problem arised: I'm looking now for the
SDK-85 manual. Even though the System Development Kit is described in
the MCS-85 book, I need more detailed information to operate my old SDK
board.
Can you help me with this matter, too. I can see on several web pages,
that some of your universities still use the MCS-85 and ask for the SDK
manual for the lessons, but I can't get the manual itself over the net
or any source to buy it.
Now my question is: Do you have the SDK-85 manual for sale yourself or
can you tell me a source or seller to get it?
Thank you for your support in advance
Martin
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A busy weekend, actually.
1) I took pictures of a bunch of systems:
Atari Portfolio
Radio Shack Model 100
Epson HX-20
NEC PC-8401a
GRiD GRiDCase 3
NEC PC-8201A
Apple Mac Portable
Hewlett-Packard LS/12
Data General DG One
Altima 2
IBM PC Radio
Amstrad PPC640
Osborne 01
Compaq Portable 386
GRiD GRiDPad 1910
Hewlett-Packard 75D
Amstrad PenPad PDA600
Panasonic Sr. Partner
2) Got them developed
3) bought a Land Rover (actually, 2)
4) wrote a system to automatically generate web pages for each of my
computers based on simple data files. It uses 4 data files: Text,
Resources, misc. Data, and Image list. There are a handful of template
files used to build the actual web page. So all I have to do is come up
with some text about the computer and lists of related links, images and
specs to generate the web page.
So, expect me to be asking about some of my systems in the near future.
And, if anyone is interested in using this program, let me know. It's
written in QBasic for DOS (Is that 10 years old?) but could probably be
ported to just about anything. (In fact, I'll bet Perl or Cobol would be
even better for some things.)
You can see a sample of the layout it generates at
<http://www.sinasohn.com/clascomp/m100.htm>. Note, the pics aren't there.
I'd love to get any feedback anyone cares to offer.
Thanks!
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roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
Talk about coincidence, after this thread popped up, and me never having
laid eyes on a C-64c, I found one in a local thrift shop. Bought the whole
thing, included a 1541 floppy, all cables, a whole box of software, and a
Magnovox RGB color monitor, which I now have hooked up to my Atari Jag. I
never noticed before how much sharper those RGB monitors are compared to TVs.
Well, I plan on playing with the C-64c for a while, but when I tire of it,
I'll be selling it, sans monitor. Anyone be interested?
At 09:02 PM 1/8/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I see them from time to time here in the TwinCities. I do not buy them
>anymore, I have 6. They have shape like the C128 and the same color and
>run all the old cartridges.
-John Higginbotham-
-limbo.netpath.net-
At 04:38 PM 1/11/98 -0600, you wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Joe wrote:
>
>> >> first personal computer (I think I know that one)
>>
>> I think the credit on this one has to go to the IBM 5100 again. It was
>> released in 1975.
>
>Is it not true, then, that Ed Roberts coined the term 'personal computer'
>to describe the Altair? (That's the legend I've been led to believe.)
I don't know if he did or not but the Altair wasn't announced til
January 1976 or 77 (I don't remember which but I have the magazine that it
was announced in.) The IBM 5100 was already in production in 1975.
Joe
>
>> Joe>
>
>ttfn
>srw
>
>
Allison wrote:
> < The 5100 was IBM's first "Personal Computer" (their words). It had
> <BASIC or APL or both!
>
> The HP system predated it but, I may have the number wrong. It was
> programmed in industrial BASIC.
Allison, I'm really having trouble figuring out what you're thinking of.
Even as far forward as 1975, the only HP systems I can think of that
ran BASIC were minis. The 2100 and 2114 would have been the smallest
of these, and both are boxes that really want to be in 19" racks but
can be made to sit on tabletops and can be carried (I am certain that
the 2100 has handles and think the 2114 does too). If carrying one
doesn't convince you that it wants to be in a 19" rack or at least
left sit I don't know what will.
The closest thing I can think of is the HP 85, which is a fairly small
and lightweight complete system, with keyboard, display, printer, and
cartridge tape in the box. It was also "portable" in that you could
get matching luggage for it. Next closest might be some of the 98xx
calculator/workstations, but I think those were either programmed like
calculators or in HPL, not BASIC. But all of this is late 1970s-1980
stuff.
Maybe I'm just having a brain lapse?
-Frank McConnell
Tony, Allison, Roger:
Thanks for the quick tutorial on microcode. I knew that it was an
involved topic worthy of many hundreds of pages of text, but you did a great
job of giving me a thumbnail of the topic.
Tony, thanks for the book refs. I'll try to track some of them down.
Rich Cini/WUGNET
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