I've found that instead of bug and tar remover, I use charcoal starter.
Originally I used this on my car, at .79cents vs 3.bucks. Works well on
machines too. To remove stenciling on computers I use fingernail polish
remover, BUT DON'T get it on printed LOGOS!
Bill
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> From: Tim Shoppa <shoppa(a)alph02.triumf.ca>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Cleaning Plastic
> Date: Monday, June 09, 1997 2:25 PM
>
> > Regarding "tape spooge" (what a great moniker, if not gross) this is
the
> > bane of my existence. I hate that shit. I went out and got some stuff
> > called Goof Off from Home Depot which was supposed to do away with that
> > stuff but it didn't work very well. I didn't try it on anything metal
> > yet, but most of my problems are with people putting velcro with the
> > sticky backs on plastic cases. I tried cleaning some plastic with tape
> > spooge on it and it just melted the damn thing. Anyone have any ideas?
>
> I've got a bottle of stuff labeled "Bug and Tar remover" that seems to
> work just fine for me. I bought it several years ago, and it's
> chock-full of all sorts of hydrocarbons and ketones. If environmental
> regulations haven't completely banned the sale of this stuff, I'd
> expect you can still find it in automotive stores.
>
> Many of the fluorocarbon-based cleaners did a better job on sticker
> residue, but these are all but impossible to get anymore.
>
> Tim. (shoppa(a)triumf.ca)
Last fall I was given the remains of something(?) from a local
municipal office. It has been in my garage all winter, and since our
Canadian weather has finally warmed up a bit, I went out to have a look. The
only identification that I can reach is on the two drives which are a few
hundred pounds each and are Century Data Systems Model T80 A's.
Can anyone tell me anything about them?
There is also another rack about the same size, but it is buried in
other junk and is not accessable.
The deal also included a Calcomp 1041 plotter which runs the test
plot, but doesn't want to talk to my Windows 95/486.
Regards
Charlie Fox
At 11:43 PM 6/8/97 +0100, you wrote:
>>This weekend was pretty quiet, though I did pick up a couple
>>ColecoVision cartridges, including 'Turbo' with the 'Expansion Module
I managed to pick up an "HP Touch Accessory" (a touch screen add-on) new in
the box and (though it's not really a computer) an Interactive Network
console also in the box.
I'm happy to find this list too!
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sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
> I have a bit of DEC stuff including a Minc (I think that is the correct
> spelling) that I have no idea what it was used for, a couple of 11/23s,
Labratory computer designed for easy interface to programable instruments
and other experiments.
Allison
On Fri, 6 Jun 1997 Marvin Johnston wrote :
> Wow, I think I am beginning to like this listserver!
Only just beginning ;-)
> It has an LCD screen with a decent keyboard on it.
So far so good...
> The size is approximately 12" wide x 8"
> deep x 5" high and the LCD screen folds up typical of a portable.
> It has a couple of standard bus size cards (one is missing) but uses
> the header type connector (2 x 50?) instead of the gold fingers to
> plug into the backplane.
Nope, not a Gavilan which was was only a couple of inches tall and had
no internal slots (for cards at least).
> If this is a Gavilan, are docs, schematics, and parts still available?
I doubt it, there used to be quite an active Gavilan group in Silicon
Valley
many years ago and if anyone has need I can try and dredge up some long
forgotten names...
Hans B Pufal
I saw an Olivetti XP 1050/SP that I passed up the other day cuz it looked
like a common PC clone type dealy. Anyone have any information on this?
Sam
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Here's another one. Hope someone finds a use for this...
Sam
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Newgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: (fwd) Take my PET, please!
Ok, forgive the corny subject line...
I have a C=PET 4016 here that is in a serious state of disrepair. When I got
it, it wasn't working and I tried to fix it up to no avail. In it's current
state, it's little more than a big metal & plastic paperweight to me. I'm
GIVING IT AWAY (You pay S&H) to anyone on one condition: That you try to fix
'er up or use the parts to fix another commodore computer. I don't want to
see this go to the dumpster, folks. It deserves better.
I'm even willing to throw in a few C64 disks for taking it away :)
If interested, respond via email - dross4(a)niu.edu
Dave Ross / Doc Watson | "Make me one with everything," said the
dross4(a)niu.edu | Zen Buddist to the hot dog vendor.
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Long live the C=64/128!| http://www.cs.niu.edu/~z956832/homepage.htm
--
Sam
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>My story mirrors yours. I, too, learned on the Aquarius, and I loved
>it. I then moved on to the Apple ][+. I have few regrets in my life,
>but of the more nerdy ones, I regret ever selling my Aquarius to finance
>the purchase of my Apple ][+. I had all the peripherals for it
>(including the thermal printer and datasette, and of course the expansion
>module with controllers and a 4K RAM carthridge).
I didn't have quite as much for it, probably. I had the mini-expander
with controls, and four cassettes, which I think were D&D Treasures of
Tarmin, Utopia, Night Stalker, and Biorhythms. I got Chess later as a
gift. I didn't have the "official" data recorder, but I got a regular
tape recorder to work once in a while for storage. I remember writing
programs for it. I remember also typing in that what-seemed-so-long
"Digital Clock" program from the manual. I left out all the REM
statements because they were "optional," I thought from my programming
experience and what the manual said. I didn't realize that all the
branching statements went to those REM's. Eventually, I got it to
work, and I thought it was really neat. I was easily entertained at
age seven. When my parents' friends came over, their two kids and I
had Utopia tournaments. Often, they got very mean, and we'd end up
fighting because "you broke the agreement about not sinking my fishing
boat," and one of us would retaliate by putting rebels on the other's
island with all our money until the game got pointless because no one
had anything left.
I may still have the price list around somewhere - I know I had it a
long time after buying anything would have been an option, but I don't
know if it got thrown out or not. I bugged my parents about getting me
a printer for it, but they never did, and I didn't have any money of
my own (I was only between about six and eight).
In my original list of computers, I forgot my Atari 2600, possibly
because I didn't consider it a computer, but rather a video game
machine. (Wasn't there a keyboard setup of some sort that you could
get for it? I could be wrong about that.) I still have that at home,
too. I don't remember all the games I had for it. I remember being
really mad that the "Indy 500" "driving controls" wouldn't work as
paddles with Warlords, and I never got the real paddle controls. I
think we took Warlords back to the store. (I could, again, be mistaken
about all these titles...)
>Ahhhh, I miss those days.
I hear ya!
--
Andy Brobston brobstona(a)wartburg.edu
http://www.wartburg.edu/personalPages/BrobstonA/home.html
My opinions do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Wartburg College
as a whole.
I'f I remember correctly there was a "Keypad" that allowed you to enter
BASIC code and a BASIC language cartridge. Seems I found the cartridge at
a garage sale and used to have one, but could never find a working keypad.
I have now abandoned the 2600 years ago in an attempt to get rid of some
the toys I never "play" with anymore. I find myself re-buying many of the
things i've sold. So my new rule is , unless I have two, I sell nothing.
Bill
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> From: Andy Brobston <BROBSTONA(a)wartburg.edu>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Re: Introduction
> Date: Sunday, June 08, 1997 9:03 PM
>
> >My story mirrors yours. I, too, learned on the Aquarius, and I loved
> >it. I then moved on to the Apple ][+. I have few regrets in my life,
> >but of the more nerdy ones, I regret ever selling my Aquarius to finance
> >the purchase of my Apple ][+. I had all the peripherals for it
> >(including the thermal printer and datasette, and of course the
expansion
> >module with controllers and a 4K RAM carthridge).
>
> I didn't have quite as much for it, probably. I had the mini-expander
> with controls, and four cassettes, which I think were D&D Treasures of
> Tarmin, Utopia, Night Stalker, and Biorhythms. I got Chess later as a
> gift. I didn't have the "official" data recorder, but I got a regular
> tape recorder to work once in a while for storage. I remember writing
> programs for it. I remember also typing in that what-seemed-so-long
> "Digital Clock" program from the manual. I left out all the REM
> statements because they were "optional," I thought from my programming
> experience and what the manual said. I didn't realize that all the
> branching statements went to those REM's. Eventually, I got it to
> work, and I thought it was really neat. I was easily entertained at
> age seven. When my parents' friends came over, their two kids and I
> had Utopia tournaments. Often, they got very mean, and we'd end up
> fighting because "you broke the agreement about not sinking my fishing
> boat," and one of us would retaliate by putting rebels on the other's
> island with all our money until the game got pointless because no one
> had anything left.
>
> I may still have the price list around somewhere - I know I had it a
> long time after buying anything would have been an option, but I don't
> know if it got thrown out or not. I bugged my parents about getting me
> a printer for it, but they never did, and I didn't have any money of
> my own (I was only between about six and eight).
>
> In my original list of computers, I forgot my Atari 2600, possibly
> because I didn't consider it a computer, but rather a video game
> machine. (Wasn't there a keyboard setup of some sort that you could
> get for it? I could be wrong about that.) I still have that at home,
> too. I don't remember all the games I had for it. I remember being
> really mad that the "Indy 500" "driving controls" wouldn't work as
> paddles with Warlords, and I never got the real paddle controls. I
> think we took Warlords back to the store. (I could, again, be mistaken
> about all these titles...)
>
> >Ahhhh, I miss those days.
>
> I hear ya!
> --
> Andy Brobston brobstona(a)wartburg.edu
> http://www.wartburg.edu/personalPages/BrobstonA/home.html
> My opinions do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Wartburg College
> as a whole.
> Yes, I've since seen the guts of a TI-99/4A. I ignored it for many years
> since the time I first played with a TI-99/4 at the computer store in Las
> Vegas, wrote a BASIC loop to count to a hundred and got there first
> counting out loud. I've been shown since that the machine was reasonably
> fast, as long as you avoided BASIC, but that was the only tool at the
Basic was slow. But since I'd had the technico board for a few years before
the TI99 I'd been into assembler. The TI9900 cpu is a bit slow as it was
very memory intensive (registers AKA workspace was an allocated block of
ram). IT was a real computer archetecture compared to the 8080. When
compared to z80 at 2.5mhz or faster it was slower. But that was the spped
they could get out of silicon and the ti99 tried to cost reduce it by
narrowing the bus slowing it further. Still in many other ways it was a
more sophisticated cpu with memory banking when that was rarely heard of.
Allison
