jpero(a)mail.cgo.wave.ca writes:
> Hi, The grey/beige HP terminal with heavy keyboard that have
> black and white "squashed" monitor shaped does have this 8008 chip
> in one of its "card". Accessible by tripping two catches between the
> shells to hinge up the monitor to reveal the cards in bottom case
> part.
What you're writing about is the HP 264X line of terminals. They
don't all use 8008 CPUs. The 2640s do, but I'm sure the 2645s use
8080s (and think the 2641, 2644, 2648A do too), and the 2647F uses some
proprietary HP CPU. Not sure about 2642, 2647A, or the 2649s which
are customized for specific applications, e.g. there was a flavor of
2649 used as the system console for HP 3000/33 minis.
Fun terminals. I could go on for a while about them.
The 2640s and 2641/4/5s have a facility allowing the downloading of
code from the host. Somewhere around here I have a Space Invaders
game and a Pac-Man game that run in the 2645s, and have heard of a
driving game. Also have heard that some folks in the Gaithersburg, MD
area turned a 2645 into some sort of BBS some years ago.
The "two catches" are hidden. Look on the case left and right sides,
you will see horizontal slots between the base and the CRT housing.
Inside those horizontal slots, a couple of inches back from the front,
are vertical slots. The object is to stick a "terminal key"
(basically a thin flat piece of metal, but a stiff paperclip can be
made to serve) into those slots to push open the catches that are at
the top of the slots. While pushing, lift the CRT housing. If like
most of us you have no more than two hands (and only one key) you may
find it convenient to do one side at a time, which is OK.
-Frank McConnell
I want your old microcomputers from the 70s and 80s. I do NOT want any
common PC clone. I am looking mainly for stuff that doesn't exist in
any way shape or form today. I am looking for rarer models, as I already
own most of the more common micros of the early micro-revolution.
Please e-mail me at dastar(a)crl.com with what you got and we can work out
a deal. Thanks.
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So this guy, Gary, responds and tells me he has an IMSAI 8080 and a Victor
9000 he wouldn't mind getting rid of. SCORE! So anyway, he used to be an
attendee of the Homebrew Computer Club, which if you don't know was a
bunch of hackers and geeks (including of course Jobs and Wozniak) who got
together every week or month in (I believe) either Mountain View or
Sunnyvale, to show off the computers they were building. Read Steven
Levy's _Hackers_ for the complete (and very entertaining) story. He was
telling me all these cool stories. One was about how a Lawrence Livermore
National Lab employee made a bunch of paper-tape copies of Gates' BASIC
when it first came out and brought them to a meeting of the HCC, claiming
that on his way over, a box of stuff dropped from a bus, and when he went
to go check it out he found all these weird paper tapes in it (40 or so)
and that everyone was welcome to have them, whereby he began tossing them
out into the audience. Gary of course got one of them, and invited me to
look at and touch it under the condition that I didn't drool on it and
muss it up. It was in perfect condition! The neatest thing about it is
that it had "Z80 BASIC COPYRIGHT MICROSOFT" punched into it (that isn't
the actual message, I've forgotten what it said already). He said the
week after, Bill himself showed up and whined to the crowd, asking "How
am I supposed to make any money off this if you guys are pirating my
stuff?" I'm sure, in hindsight, Bill certainly doesn't mind the fact
that the Microsoft BASIC standard created by the piracy of his original
BASIC has made him a $32 billion man today.
He went on to tell me the stories about how he built his IMSAI and applied
fixes and patches for flaws in the design, and showed me the schematics
and took me through some of the documentation. He's a really neat guy.
We're going to be staying in touch. He's moving soon and he says when he
cleans his garage out and figures what else he has he will probably let me
have some of it, including his full run of Byte magazine starting from
issue 4. He also has a CompuPro 8/16 that he wanted to hang onto, as well
as a Heathkit H19 terminal that he built from the kit, but he says he
might not want to take them with him.
So anyway, that's what a day of tooling around the bay area got me. I also
met Paul Coad at a parking lot sale and we ran into Doug Coward (you may
have checked out his Web museum page, I forget the URL).
It was a good day.
Sam
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Another one, hope someone gets lucky.
Sam
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Z100 free
Conditions:
YOU PICK UP.
YOU TAKE ALL SOFTWARE AND MANUALS
I live in Northeastern Maryland. Close to an I95 exit. If interested
email me at ltelets(a)tec1.apg.army.mil
It has two 5 and a quarter floppies amd a detached monochrome monitor.
It runs but could make a fine boat anchor *8^)
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Hope someone can take advantage of this.
Sam
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TeleVideo TS802 computer uupdated with 20 meg hard drive (partitioned
10/10).
Its free.
Machine has several upgrades; CPU speed 5 mhz, faster memory chips,
Zsystem operating system. User friendly ZCPR plus auto loading function
keys and a whole bunch of other upgrades I forget.
Has Wordstar ver. 4.0, dBase ll loaded and configured on the hard drive.
Machine has original manual and shipping carton.
It's located in Edmonton, AB, Canada
you can contact me: peterc(a)freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
Peter
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>Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 09:54:59 -0700
>From: Uncle Roger <sinasohn(a)crl.com>
>Subject: Digital Imaging (was: Re: Chisolm)
>I have been trying to decide the best way to get images into digital form.
>Naturally, a digital camera is one way, but not the only. There's also the
>photo/scanner method, camcorder/video capture, and probably others. As I
>see it, the pros/cons are:
>DigCam: + Easy to use, convenient
> - Expensive to buy, somewhat limited capacity,
> no hard copy of images (except printer output)
>Photo/Scanner: + Hard Copy, can be used for other stuff too
> - Film and Developing can be expensive, takes time
>Camcorder: + Easy to use, Allows for selecting the right image
> from several views
> - Video capture hardware/software isn't cheap
>So, does anyone have thoughts on which is best? I'd like a scanner for
>other things, but they're expensive too. There's also the question of 35mm
>vs. polaroid and type of scanner. (Not to mention where the heck would I
>put it!) I've got a camcorder and my girlfriend's mac supposedly can do
>video capture as is, but I've got to find software and figure it out.
----------->
I myself went with the scanner, mainly because I want to do some OCR
with it as well as scanning, flat bed is better than a ahndheld, and you
would not believe the prices nowadays. You can get a new Microtek E3
for under $200! (for IBM or Mac!) Check your local discount mail-order
firm.
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BTW (and to keep on-topic), anyone know of some decent OCR software that
can reliably convert dot-matrix hard copy? The Omnipage LE (shipped
with the scanner) can't make heads or tails out of most of it (and
barely works with the dot-matrix stuff it can. :/ (I have a couple
issues of the Commodore Gazzette (pre-COMPUTE!) and alot of it is dot
matrix.)
Larry Anderson
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At 02:01 PM 6/10/97 -0400, you wrote:
>(there is a port) and how hard. Do they run any real OSs or some TRShack?
I am told that OS-9 is a pretty good OS, but I don't have any real
experience with it. I'm sure there are OS-9 resources out on the net
somewhere...
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>
> After the collapse of the market for the TI 99/4a, Radio Shack sold many
> of the parts (including the keyboard, the internal switching power supply
The TI99/4a is not a switcher. I have both the RS powersupply board and
two TI99/4a (a black one and a grey one) and neither use a switcher!
Now the original ti99/4 with the chicklet keyboard (scarce) did use the
switcher.
Allison
> Somewhere in the back of my head I had the idea that a TDP-100
> was a Coco with added serial hardware included so that Radio
> Shack could sell it as a color video terminal. Does anyone
> else remember this, or am I completely out of my mind?
Looking at the board and my moto data book says no serial devices (6850
or the like).
Allison
Im not rich, Don't have one. Do I want one? Help me out here? what is it?
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> From: Kevan Heydon <kevan(a)motiv.co.uk>
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
<classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Sage IV...
> Date: Tuesday, June 10, 1997 11:08 AM
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have just recieved this email offering me a Sage IV. I am not
> interested as I already have one so the cost of shipping to here in the
> UK isn't worth it. So if someone wants it contact him directly.
>
> Kevan
>
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> To: collector(a)heydon.org
> Subject: sage IV
>
> Hello, I own a Sage IV computer and have some word processing software
> and spreadsheet software for the computer. I also own two amber
> monitors for the Sage IV. If you are interested in purchasing these, or
> know a source in the United States that is interested in this computer
> equipment, please leave me a note on the web, or at CompuServe 76627,224
> Jim Krasno (my wife is Nancy Nelson)
> Jim
>
> ------- End of Forwarded Message
>
>
>
>
Hi,
I should qualify myself as comming from when personal computer meant you
owned a computer be it a minuteman-1 missle guidence computer(all
transistor), mark-8 or a PDP-8!
The TI99/4a was 81 technology and should be compared to that not a P1000000!
This seems to occur often.
It compared to the PCjr with the chicklet keyboard or COCO1 with same at
a time when the osborne-1 totable was new and neat. Apple/III had bombed on
the market.
It compared to z80 based system at 4mhz and a few emerging at 6mhz or the
other non-IBM-PC 8088/6 based s100 systems. There were even 68000 based
system but 8mhz were fast ones.
It was color! At a time when that capability was uncommon.
It didn't require an engineer to hook it up or make it do
something/anything. At that time S100 systems, apples, and the like were
rarely packaged systems. The trs80 and others started something with ready
to run boxes that were also slow and cranky.
Can I say it better as...back then a lot of things were starting to shake
out, emerge and outright happen. The TI99/4a was one of those and it was
far cheaper than a PC even at it introduction price. 1980 to 1984 was an
interesting time. Who knows, if IBM and intel didn't hook up we could be
running unix on a fifth generation z8000.
Allison
