Hello everybody.
I was wondering if anyone out there had an old Mac Portable (the Mac
laptop) that they'd want to sell. I really don't want to pay all that much
for it, and I don't need anything all that fast (I don't know all that much
about Macs), but it needs to run at least System 6.0.5. The main reason
that I'm looking for one, is that my school uses mainly Macs (the only PC's
that they have are a few XT's that you need to turn off the lights to read
the monitors), and I don't have a Mac. Whenever I'm working on a project,
I'm confined to the 40 minutes of classtime to get it done. I'm not
looking for a full-sized Mac, because (1) I don't have the room, and (2), I
sort of need the portability, because It's not very often that I'm at home
before 8:30 or 9:00 PM, and at that time I don't really feel like working
on stuff for school.
All I'm really asking is that it works, and can run System 6.0.5 (that's
what my school uses).
As always,
ThAnX in advance,
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At 12:37 AM 6/17/97 +0000, you wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Andy Brobston wrote:
>
>> Was the Aquarius II compatible with the old Aquarius programs?
>>
>> Can anyone give me a lead on an Aquarius II?
>
>Never heard of such a beast, and it would have been futile to attempt to
>market an Aquarius II when the first one didn't do so hot. Perhaps you
>are referring to the Radofin Aquarius? If not, I want to know what you
>do, and I want to know it NOW! ;)
>
>Sam
Go to:
http://www.webcom.com/~makingit/bluesky/aquarius.html#aquarius2http://www.webcom.com/~makingit/bluesky/tech/aquarius_tech.html
"Confident in their system, Radofin's president, Lawrence M. Scott, Jr.,
announced that they would continue to sell Aquarius through a new
distributor, and would release Aquarius II in March of 1984 and Aquarius
III in July. None of this happened. "
James
jscarter(a)worldnet.att.net
> DOes anyone have a computer which uses the EBCDIC character set, rather than
> ASCII (did I get the acronym right? what does it stand for anyway)?
I've never heard of a microcomputer that used EBCDIC, but there are a lot of
things of which I've never heard. It is used in IBM mainframes and minis.
Here at HUD we have a Hitachi mainframe that emulates an IBM, and it uses
EBCDIC internally. We have file transfer utilities that take care of
translating into ASCII as necessary.
What does it stand for? Gee, it's been a long time. Let's see.
According to the "SAS Compantion for the MVS Environment," it stands
for Extended Binary Coded Decimal Interchange Code. That sounds redundant,
but that's IBM for you.
--Dav
david_a._vandenbroucke(a)hud.gov
>From: "e.tedeschi" <e.tedeschi(a)ndirect.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: Why?
>Well, to get more specific, I have the (perhaps wrong) feeling that:
> a) You are against collectors who collect for the historical importance
> onyl and are not really worried if the item works or not (as long as all
> the parts are in there and the thing can be made to work if and when
> required). I have been ridiculized when I suggested this one way to go
> about collecting.
I have never felt that here, and I have several items in my collection
in non-working order. Would I give up my P-500, MTU VMM board, or
SuperPET if I never got them fixed? NO! I would hope to get them fixed
but the important thing now is to get them, mainly because it is part of
the 'collection' if they work, wonderful, if they don't they still has
meaning.
> b) You are against collectors who want ot take out bits and pieces from
> the systems in order to show them separately (but retaining and perhaps
> even ehibiting the "crippled" item). I have been refused help in thsi
> respect when it became apparent I was going to do this.
I think that may be personal views by individual collectors and not by
the group in whole. Some feel that not having 'original parts' or
add-ons is blasphmey. I can understand and appreciate where you come
from, there are compnents of computers that are shear art as the disk
controller in the apple II (from what I read the board was drawn 'not
designed by computer' by Steve Wozniac.) I would be interested to learn
more about it. There have been chips that have amazed me too. Everyone
has their own intrest. The only reason you are perceiving otherwise is
that those people are the ones that are posting more, from years of
running an BBS as well as participating on the group, the more you post
messages the more attention and notoriety you will receive. If you want
to see something written about an interest of yours, sometimes you just
have to sit down and write it yourself.
> c) You are against helping "foreigners" (and therefore "different")
> collectors to export "your" stuff perhaps in the wrong perception that
> it will diminish the heritage of the country (yours). I have striken a
> deal with one of the subscriber here and he disappeared in the distance
> after a while (he did not answer anymore...) By the way does anybody
> need British stuff? I would be glad to help you with it.
I reply to what I know (some times I also replay to what I don't know
and put my foot in the mouth in the process). If you see anyone post
about Commodores or PETs more specifically, you can be sure within a day
or so a response from me will follow (unless it is something I am
totally in the dark about). Case in point, Exidy Sorceror, I purchased
one and sent it to Sam Ismael, he is now looking for information, not
very many people ever seen one, much less an ad for one, sometimes the
best we can do is quiote from old magazine ads. :/ Also some of the
sytems are regional and there may not be many people from that area who
have seen that particular machine on this list...
> Of course I have no proof of the above but from the short experience I
> had here, I think that the problem exhists as opposed to the "openess"
> of other American collecting groups like, for example, the radio
> collecting community which has been VERY helpful with me and other
> "foreigners" to buy and export stuff from the USA and CANADA (what about
> the stuff you ARE importing from overseas then?).
I have sent fellow users disks and cartridges through the mail to
Europe, anything larger I could not afford the shipping. This depends
on the individual. Sam was lucky to get me to shop the Sorcer as quick
as I did, I myself lothe shipping things, especially heavy/bulky
things. I think that again depends on the individual.
> I think that if you think I am wrong the best way to demonstrate it, if
> you care, is not with words but with facts.
> Thank you for your interest
> enrico
You are very welcome and hope you keep with the list and help us all to
work out this misunderstanding.
Larry Anderson
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Yes, I finally got the fever for the flavor of a Pringles -- Dooh! I mean,
the fever to spark up my CP/M machine... despite everyone & their brother
telling me to check the PSU first.
Yea, Tar & feather me, and ride me out on a rail... but I saved the thing
>from Mr. Junkman, and it cost me $1.00 at an auction... Figured there
wasn't much to lose.
Here's what I have:
It is *not* a Heath/Zenith machine.... It states simply on the front:
Heathkit Computer. No nuthin' else. On the back, I found the Serial# and
the number:
H-120-1.
I'm assuming this is the model number. It has two floppy drives (one of
which the garage door is broken on) a full keyboard (which works fine, but
is slightly sticky...) and an internal green 11" diag. mono monitor.
Something tickled in my brain about those floppies, so as I lumbered around
in the dark in my newly-begun clean-ish basement (Eeeeek!) I found my old
non-working Atari 810 disk drive... and the mechs looked almost exact!
Would these happen to be the same mechanically, would anyone know?
Also, as there was no paperwork for this, so even the most basic,
rudimentary info on this unit would be helpful... such as: which drive is
the boot drive? Top or bottom?
When I sparked it up, everything seemed to work, the tube came to life, and
greeted me with a finger pointing to the right in the upper-left corner...
and stayed there. Every key sequence I tried resulted in a "Beep" except
<CTRL><RESET> which, of course, reset the machine and re-greeted me with
the finger.
Does anyone out there know what I have, and could you tell me? ;^>
BTW, I (of course) would be in the market for a set of boot disks for this
beastie...
Thanks one and all,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
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Got a simple question. God I hope it's simple and does not turn out to be
an advocacy question. Im planning my "museum" setup. I have alot of
machines that were simply designed only to work on Color TV's. Is it
possible to just tap the input's before they get to the RF modulator {built
in} and use a composite monitor, of which I have dozens? Otherwise I've
got to buy, scrounge, find, about 9 color tv's.
Whilst in a self-induced trance, Ward Griffiths and/or Lisa Rogers happened
to blather:
>On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Brett wrote:
>That was me. Yes, it might have been _possible_ to build a machine in
>1930, but at that time nobody had made the connection between Babbage's
>ideas and electronics. IIRC, it was John von Neuman who took that fatal
>step, then published it. And then all Hell broke loose, and there is no
>sign of the rift closing within our lifetimes. I _love_ it. With
>respect to the old Chinese curse, we live in interesting times. And we
>have done so since the Harvard Mark I. (Well, there _is_ that rumoured
>German predecessor, but it was never advertised.)
Uh, actually, try October 1939... with the ABC. That's the Atanasoff -
Berry Computer, which is now recognized as the first functional electronic
computer. I posted 2 or 3 URL's for more info on the web, if there's a
searchable archive of this list, check there for my post. If not, I'll look
it up in mine if I still have it.
BTW, you're timeline is still a bit off... IIRC John von Neumann invented
the stored-program concept, didn't he? It was Markus & someone who designed
the first UNIVAC mostly with concepts hijacked from the ABC... methinks it
was in 1972 or so when the U.S. Patent office yanked the patent away from
them and gave it back to Atanasoff & Berry.
Anywho, have fun, y'all!
"Merch"
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I've just arranged for a Tandy 1000HX and it appears to be kind of odd. It
was bought at one of Tandy's infamous 'tent sales' where they dispose of stuff
they've had sitting around the local 'Shack, and the guy who bought it
originally said that it didn't come with any 3-1/2" floppy installed and that
both covers are still over the bays. It boots off of an external 5-1/4"
drive, which if I remember correctly, is selectable easily enough by way of
the SETUPHX program included with it's DOS diskettes. Do any of you
TRS-80/Tandy knowledgable people remember ever seeing a HX set up like this?
Every one of them I've ever seen new has come with a 3-1/2" floppy in the
left-most bay, right next to the expansion connectors. I bought one of these
nifty machines when they first appeared as well, and had an external 5-1/4"
floppy and CM-11 monitor with it, as well as the PLUS memory, RS232 and 1200
bps modem cards.
Jeff jeffh(a)unix.aardvarkol.com
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In message <33B75A67.2AE4(a)ndirect.co.uk> classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu writes:
> Brett wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, e.tedeschi wrote:
> > > There are computers that you could not possibly USE but they are
> > > important for what they meant (and mean today) in short for their
> > > "heritage". Without them you could not have used (and use) the ones you
> > > are using today.
>
I assume the following is one of the computers you claim can't possibly be
used today...
> How about the Science of Cambridge (Sinclair) MK XIV ? It had 256 bytes
You mean an MK-14. I've never seen it printed in roman numerals (I have the
machine, user manual, a couple of 3rd party books, the adverts, etc, etc,etc
It was my first computer).
> (NOT Kb, BYTES) of RAM memory, LED display, not modulator and no way of
> storing programs (you could add these at a later stage as accessories).
Perhaps you could explain _why_ I can't use one today. I've written many,
many embedded control programs (monitor some inputs, update state variables,
toggle outputs, etc) that would _trivially_ fit into 256 bytes of SC/MP code.
If I add the optional INS8154 RAM/IO chip I have another 128 bytes of RAM and
16 bidirectional I/O lines. I can also add another 256 bytes by raiding my
junk box for some 2111's.
I can think of a few dozen applications that I could use that for. A trivial
one is an I2C chip tester - replace the monitor ROMs with ones burnt to contain
the correct code (avoids using the cassette interface option...), and have
said code read I2C addresses/data from the hex keypad and bit-bang the I2C
protocol on a couple of the 8154 lines. Or, how about a Centronics printer
tester (emulate the centronics port on the 8154, make it print the classic
scrolling ASCII text). Or a programmable pulse generator for digital IC
testing. Or a hundred-and-one other applications.
Yes, I can do any of those with a PC or many, many other machines. But the MK14
is small and portable. It doesn't need a monitor. It will start the program
instantly at switch-on. It is still useful today.
>
> enrico
>
>
-tony
>
>From: Ward Griffiths and/or Lisa Rogers <gram(a)cnct.com>
>Subject: Re: 'Home' computer: Definition
>On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Brett wrote:
>> Which reminds me, my oldest handheld is from Korea. It feels great on my
>> feet! My uncle picked it up for me in the mid-60's tho the design has been
>> around in Asia for centuries.
>Yeah, got three assorted items of that nature myself (abacuses?
>abaci? Never met anybody with more than one to tell me the proper
>plural!)
>--
>Ward Griffiths
Consulting "The Japanese Abacus; Its Use and Theory" by Takashi Kojima
(12th printing, 1960) He uses "abacuses" as the plural form. (very
interesting history that dates way back to Roman days and farther).
Unfortunately I have a somewhat incompatible model from my book, on my
wall is a chinese abacus with 5 and 2 beads per digit, where the
japanese models use 4 and 1 (which sounds more logical to me, easier to
execute a carry to the next digit.)
An interesting chapter in the book covers a contest hosted by Stars &
Stripes between a U.S. Pvt. in Macarthur's Finance Disbursing Section,
(an awarded expert operator of calculators of the tim)e and a Japanese
champion abacus operator from the Postal Ministry. As of 1946 the
Japanese Abacuses were still able to beat the latest in American
calculators.
Larry Anderson
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Bill:
{...}
> 2. Submission & storage: UUEncoded image file e-mailed to "repository";
> ROM/EPROM chips sent by snail mail and returned. All submissions should have
> as much info about the source computer as possible (board revisions, date of
> mnaufacture, etc.)
>>I think that anything doing with the chips (purchasing, programming,
>>shipping) should be left to the person that needs them. Sure, not very
>>many people on the list have programmers, but there are enough kind souls
>>that would do the programming. Anyway, having a policy concerning
>>shipping and supply may turn into a big headache.
I don't think that this would be a problem. I don't anticipate that many
people would want it this way (we are all hardware hackers {in the nice
sense}, after all). Even so, as long as a person doesn't want Fedex delivery,
how bad can it be??
> 4. Cost: nominal (cost of postage and EPROM).
>>Doing any more may actually be legally shakey.
I don't think so. See one of my earlier messages on this topic. If you're
posting a ROMimage, you have already "paid" your licensing fee because you own
the machine. I'm just replacing a defective copy with a working copy (sort of
like exchanging a defective diskette dor a working one). We're not "creating"
or "copying" for distribution. Also, we can limit it to pre-PC machines.
Chances are that these manufacturers are either out of business or no longer
support the machine.
>>Additional thought...
>>How will additional required information be tied to the ROM images (as in
>>manufacturers part numbers, revision levels, serial numbers,
>>corresponding hardware information, etc.)? ROMS (and PALs) often change
>>as the circuits get minor "improvements" (ECOs).
I don't know yet. I'm grappling with this now. There are all sorts of issues
with this: parts are house numbered, or not numbered at all. Maybe we can go
by unit serial number, date-of-manufacture stickers, and pc-board
identifications (such as "Revision A" or the like).
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- MCPS Windows 95/Netowrking
> Also have these:
>
> the Encryptor, Jones Futura Corporation, Model ENC 100-1
> California Computer Systems, Model 2832 [has this big, black 3"x3" square
> and 3/8" thick block of resin on it, have no idea what it's hiding]
>
> Any idea what this stuff is?
>
>
> Sam
I was reading in the Atari Game Systems FAQ that the 7800 carts are
encrypted with a special encryption and only those encrypted games get
access to the 7800's advanced video resources (otherwise it just gets
2600 resources)... This was a measure by Atari to make sure to get a
share of the profits from 3rd party game developers. There could be a
slight possibility this is an encryption unit for the 7800 game
system...
Currently no one knows (or is saying they know) how to encrypt 7800
carts.
Larry Anderson
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Hey, that mailing list fudged part of my first line as their command
which reported in error and refused to post it here. :(
Q. Hold on, I would like to express my opinions...
"Home Computer" term is invented by corporations to supposely help
define their markets and totally miss it all the time because users
needs is usually higher than their corporates' computers by factor of
1.5 to 2. At same time tries to pull off a coup on "home" users by
selling stripped down with loads of cut corners and oft-nonstandard
parts machine at horrible prices. Case in point: PCjr. PCjr and
orignal 2 piece PS/1 (sold at 1000 bux cdn but you get no HD in it,
introduced 1990's but users right away dumped them by pallets barely
2 years after. Yuk!) Side note: I traded few things to get this PS/1
2011 and used it for a while but sold it cheaply to a user who have
modest needs than I. (for me, I can't manage well without hard drive
attached even all the down to XT but not for apple II's their floppy
drive is very fast enough to forgo hd, very impressed but at that
time too expensive for my taste but now they are so cheap now.)
So there was a bad taste to this name "home computers" in general.
Similar types of computers did well in many areas but
happened to lack important areas that killed it. Ironically, better
to build DIY similar capablies 386, 80mb, 1mb, desktop/mono vga and
still easily interchangable than that darned PS/1 2011 models. When I
read about many machines and few "home computers" as called toys but
I was mistaken when I saw and heard that "toy", boy, they're mistaken
and I was taken too for a while! Indeed they were used for anything
within their capablies so I accept anything that has CPU in it at
same time useful and expandable should be decent computers, no more
or less. :)
C64, PET's, apples and such has just right stuff to keep users
happy.
In closing, corporations always underestimate "home" users.
But now they are not pushing this word and crippled machines anymore,
now selling them in general to any users execpt for corporations who
needs turnkey system just to do very specific jobs like weak machine
strictly for WP use, alphas for servers and heavy graphics, fast
processor for programming but that is getting blurred that most users
can afford them and can put them in their homes.
Ok, now I could respond to yours... :)
> I've seen a couple of posts in here that declare, in very firm terms
> indeed, that machines like the MicroVAX and PDP's are not "home" computers.
Suppose, Digital did not cared a whit and cut prices on that and we
would be sure many would have one in home if they're small enough and
easy on power requirements. Linux is there now and NT can be run on
alphas but bit late and cost is fast appoaching to affordable levels
where getting a pentium pro machine is not only option.
>
> For the sake of discussion in this list, and computer hobbyists in
> general, I would like the world to know that I define 'home computer' as
> any machine that you can:
>
> * Comfortably fit through your door...
>
> * Doesn't test the load limits of your target floor...
>
> * Power and run without tripping your main breaker...
>
> * (most importantly) Have fun restoring and working with... in your home!
>
> Which just goes to show that such terminology is so relative, there's
> little point in debating it. Why waste the bandwidth over something as
> trivial as a difference in wording?
>
> (No, I'm not trying to start a flamewar; I posted this because I'm
> concerned that the current thread regarding 'home' computers may erupt into
> one!)
>
> Caveat Emperor!
Anyone know where I could get a replacement disk drive for a Digital
PDT-11/150? This is a machine with an LSI-11 processor and two 8 inch
floppy drives that runs RT-11. I've got two machines but one has a
floppy that doesn't work. I'd like to find a replacement drive if
possible.
Thanks in advance,
David Betz
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I've seen a couple of posts in here that declare, in very firm terms
indeed, that machines like the MicroVAX and PDP's are not "home" computers.
For the sake of discussion in this list, and computer hobbyists in
general, I would like the world to know that I define 'home computer' as
any machine that you can:
* Comfortably fit through your door...
* Doesn't test the load limits of your target floor...
* Power and run without tripping your main breaker...
* (most importantly) Have fun restoring and working with... in your home!
Which just goes to show that such terminology is so relative, there's
little point in debating it. Why waste the bandwidth over something as
trivial as a difference in wording?
(No, I'm not trying to start a flamewar; I posted this because I'm
concerned that the current thread regarding 'home' computers may erupt into
one!)
Caveat Emperor!
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"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our own
human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
- "Fumbling the Future" by Douglas Smith and Robert Alexander
- "Halcion Days" By???
I would like to add these two titles to my HOME COMPUTER BIBLIOGRAPHY.
Does anybody have the name of the publishers and the year of publishing?
Thank you
enrico
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Sam Ismail <dastar(a)crl.com> writes:
> California Computer Systems, Model 2832 [has this big, black 3"x3" square
> and 3/8" thick block of resin on it, have no idea what it's hiding]
>
> Any idea what this stuff is?
Well, no. I pulled a CCS catalog (dated Feb 1981) and took a look,
and the only 28xx card was the 2810 Z80 CPU.
As I read the catalog, though, I might expect 28xx to mean some sort
of processor or coprocessor. Or maybe not; CCS weren't entirely
consistent with their numbering scheme and the sample sizes weren't
that large.
-Frank McConnell
> Even the kaypro, while fairly
> fast has the slowest screen on the planet. I
I beg to differ. The slowest screen on the planet is the Pro350.
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
actually, ive heard the plural for unix to be unices, rather than unixen, or
also expressed as *nix, for the different flavours of unix out there. the
hacker's dictionary is great though, just to read the words and their
origins. i've now got everyone at work to use the term "virtual friday" which
i picked out of the dictionary! =D
<< > Is VAXen the plural of VAX ? Why?
Play on words. Like the plural of 'Ox' is 'Oxen', plurals of many things
involving computers that end in 'x' end in 'xen'. As VAXen, Unixen (for
the many variations on the Unix OS such as Venix, Linux, BSD, Solaris,
AIX, Xenix, and several others. You'll also see more than one box (as in
CPU) referred to as 'boxen'. Check out _The New Hacker's Dictionary_,
2nd Edition, from MIT Press, also available in many forms on the Net as
the "Jargon File". Currently (and for a long time now) maintained by
Eric S. Raymond. Try <http://www2.dictionary.com/dictionary.jargon/>.
(Actually, recommended to everybody who ever wonders what one of us old
farts is talking about).
--
Ward Griffiths >>
david
WAHOO! I am in as Root! And I ain't gonna tell you what it was!
Now, anyone know what the Streaming Tape Drive device is called?
I can boot with this (an old Adaptec SCSI board) installed.
I also have 2 CB811 cards but only one seems to come up with a light,
the other one just flashes?
*** CB811 -- (C) Copyright 1986 Computone Systems, Inc.
(C) Copyright 1987, 1988 Texas Instruments Inc.
I can not boot with either or both of these installed. I haven't tried
real hard, maybe the console port changes with these in. But I also don't
hear all the beeps if these are in.
Here's my last bootup record
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Sat Jun 28 23:11:07
*** CB811 -- (C) Copyright 1986 Computone Systems, Inc.
(C) Copyright 1987, 1988 Texas Instruments Inc.
Can't find any CB811 boards
Texas Instruments print screen v1.01
SPA initialization complete
Streaming cartridge tape v2.00[A] (int=3,dma=3,base=00000220)
Irootdev 1/40, pipedev 1/40, swapdev 1/41
JKL0L1L2L3disk[W] drive 0: cyls = 918, heads = 15, secs = 17
nswap = 5610, swplo = 0, Hz = 50
L4maximum user process size = 8655k
L5MNOPmem: total = 8064k, reserved = 4k, kernel = 1088k, user = 6
Sat Jun 28 23:11:08
972k
kernel: drivers = 4k, 0 screens = 0k, 600 i/o bufs = 600k, msg bufs = 8k
QRSTUVWXYZdisk[W] drive 1: cyls = 918, heads = 15, secs = 17
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I have looked and can not find any docs on the CB811's or the Tape Drive
8-( 8-( 8-(
Anybody know anything about either of these?????
BC
> Is VAXen the plural of VAX ? Why?
hobson's choice, it just is. For some reason VAXes never caught in some
circles especally when you dealing with SMP and clusters of vaxen.
There are many stories why, most I've forgotten though as a millrat I should
be up on it.
Actually there are some good stories about node names on the DIGIAL network.
My favorites were MILRAT, and the other two cluster members MILROT and
MILDEW. They were apt names for vaxen located where straight down through
the floor meant you were in the pond.
Allison
Kevin, did you ever get that draft I emailed you?
What is going on with you book?
Bob Roswell
System Source
338 Clubhouse Road
Hunt Valley, MD 21031
(410) 771-5544 ext 336
broswell(a)syssrc.com
www.syssrc.com
David:
You can still get Tandy/RS software directly from their National Parts
service. Last year when I acquired a Model 100 system, I needed the DVI
(disk-video interface) diskette, I called them. The price: $5 each.
I can't seem to find the telephone number (it is an 800#, though), but it's
called "Tandy Consumer Mail Center". You should be able to get the number from
your local R/S.
Give them the catalog# and what you're looking for. They will probably refer
you to the Tandy Software Service Center, where you can order the diskette.
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Rich Cini/WUGNET
- ClubWin Charter Member (6)
- MCPS Windows 95/Networking
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Date: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 10:13:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com
To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
Subject: weekend additions
Message-ID: <970628101309_408583751(a)emout07.mail.aol.com>
i need some help on what i found this weekend.
a trs80 model III 48k. came with trsdos disk, but i havent tested it yet.
can anyone point to a source of software. now i need a model ][ to fill in
the blanks!
Sam and William:
Here's what I think so far (which isn't much <g>):
1. Record format: open (depending on software for EPROM programmer);
S-records, Intel Hex, binary.
2. Submission & storage: UUEncoded image file e-mailed to "repository";
ROM/EPROM chips sent by snail mail and returned. All submissions should have
as much info about the source computer as possible (board revisions, date of
mnaufacture, etc.)
3. Requests & withdrawls: by e-mail to those with programmers; by mail for
those supplying their own chips; e-mail request with no chip sent.
4. Cost: nominal (cost of postage and EPROM).
How does this sound so far??
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Rich Cini/WUGNET
- ClubWin Charter Member (6)
- MCPS Windows 95/Networking
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What format would these images be? S-records?
William Donzelli
william(a)ans.net
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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:40:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sam Ismail <dastar(a)crl.com>
To: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu
Subject: Re: Computer Documentation
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970625103943.740O-100000(a)crl2.crl.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
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On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Richard A. Cini, Jr. wrote:
> As far as ROMs are concerned, maybe we can start a "ROM Archive"
> database/repository. Members with EPROM programmers could make copies of
> known-good ROMS from various machines at the request of other members.
Good idea. I think someone's thrown this out before. Anyone want to
volunteer to coordinate?
> As far as Copyright concerns, I don't think that there are any. First, many
> of our target companies are out of business. Second, we are not selling
these
> chips (and the software contained therein) in a commercial sense. Third,
> they're being used as a one-for-one replacement for defective firmware. I
view
> it like a diskette: I own Norton Utilities with a bad disk 1. My friend also
> owns Norton Utilities, and he makes me a copy of his disk 1. Both of us have
> valid software licenses because we both bought the program. It's like
> preservation of matter.
Let's put it this way: if you don't tell anyone, I won't.
Sam
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