28 Jun
1997
28 Jun
'97
4:55 p.m.
WAHOO! I am in as Root! And I ain't gonna tell you what it was!
Now, anyone know what the Streaming Tape Drive device is called?
I can boot with this (an old Adaptec SCSI board) installed.
I also have 2 CB811 cards but only one seems to come up with a light,
the other one just flashes?
*** CB811 -- (C) Copyright 1986 Computone Systems, Inc.
(C) Copyright 1987, 1988 Texas Instruments Inc.
I can not boot with either or both of these installed. I haven't tried
real hard, maybe the console port changes with these in. But I also don't
hear all the beeps if these are in.
Here's my last bootup record
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Sat Jun 28 23:11:07
*** CB811 -- (C) Copyright 1986 Computone Systems, Inc.
(C) Copyright 1987, 1988 Texas Instruments Inc.
Can't find any CB811 boards
Texas Instruments print screen v1.01
SPA initialization complete
Streaming cartridge tape v2.00[A] (int=3,dma=3,base=00000220)
Irootdev 1/40, pipedev 1/40, swapdev 1/41
JKL0L1L2L3disk[W] drive 0: cyls = 918, heads = 15, secs = 17
nswap = 5610, swplo = 0, Hz = 50
L4maximum user process size = 8655k
L5MNOPmem: total = 8064k, reserved = 4k, kernel = 1088k, user = 6
Sat Jun 28 23:11:08
972k
kernel: drivers = 4k, 0 screens = 0k, 600 i/o bufs = 600k, msg bufs = 8k
QRSTUVWXYZdisk[W] drive 1: cyls = 918, heads = 15, secs = 17
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I have looked and can not find any docs on the CB811's or the Tape Drive
8-( 8-( 8-(
Anybody know anything about either of these?????
BC
29 Jun
29 Jun
12:18 a.m.
On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Brett wrote:
WAHOO! I am in as Root! And I ain't gonna tell you
what it was!
No one ever doubted it could be done -- physical access to the system unit
gives opportunities to crack root that the best modem connection can't
offer. That's why serious business systems are kept in physically secure
areas. To enter the machine room where I work I have to exchange the
card-key that gives me access to the building for one that gives me access
to that room -- and I have to trade back if I want to go outside to smoke
a cigarette.
Now, anyone know what the Streaming Tape Drive device
is called?
I can boot with this (an old Adaptec SCSI board) installed.
Look in the /dev directory and see what devices are listed containing
strings such mt, rmt etc. Hell, mail me a 'ls -l' of /dev and I can
probably tell you -- some vendor device drivers gave things funny names.
I also have 2 CB811 cards but only one seems to come
up with a light,
the other one just flashes?
*** CB811 -- (C) Copyright 1986 Computone Systems, Inc.
(C) Copyright 1987, 1988 Texas Instruments Inc.
Computone is best known for multi-port serial boards. These are probably
8-port boards to connect to terminals. What do the connectors on these
boards look like?
Sat Jun 28 23:11:07
*** CB811 -- (C) Copyright 1986 Computone Systems, Inc.
(C) Copyright 1987, 1988 Texas Instruments Inc.
Can't find any CB811 boards
Texas Instruments print screen v1.01
SPA initialization complete
Yes, 'SPA' probably stands for 'serial port adapter'.
Streaming cartridge tape v2.00[A]
(int=3,dma=3,base=00000220)
Is the mechanism a full-size Quarter-inch drive or one of those little
Irwin/CMS type drives?
Don't try putting a Soundblaster compatible sound card in that box
without careful setting of jumpers. Then again, Xenix of that era
probably won't support it anyway.
Irootdev 1/40, pipedev 1/40, swapdev 1/41
JKL0L1L2L3disk[W] drive 0: cyls = 918, heads = 15, secs = 17
nswap = 5610, swplo = 0, Hz = 50
L4maximum user process size = 8655k
L5MNOPmem: total = 8064k, reserved = 4k, kernel = 1088k, user = 6
Sat Jun 28 23:11:08
972k
kernel: drivers = 4k, 0 screens = 0k, 600 i/o bufs = 600k, msg bufs = 8k
QRSTUVWXYZdisk[W] drive 1: cyls = 918, heads = 15, secs = 17
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All of that looks pretty normal.
So what utilities are on the machine? Does it have the Software
Development package? (type 'cc' to check). Does it have the Text
Processing package?
--
Ward Griffiths
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within
the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." --Claire Wolfe
1:31 a.m.
On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Ward Griffiths and/or Lisa Rogers wrote:
Found it in a cron file. It's called rct0 (I thought I tried that before
I wrote the list- oh well!)
?62 pin D-shells? With my eyes - it hard to tell. Smallest row has 20 and
three rows of pins in the *dongle*. That *Dongle* wieghs in at about 7
lbs! I have three dongles and 2 cards for 16 ports. If I had one more
card - 24 9.6k baud modems - I could use up a T1 8-)
Aside - What the heck is that shorty card in there? All epoxied up.
Says TI on it. Metal shield. Any ideas?
Don't recognize anything on it that has a name I know. Full 1/4 inch
on a DC600 tape (I now have one blank 8-) Yup - got the tape to work!
On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Brett wrote:
You are 100% correct Ward. This is the major failing of just anybody
trying to setup and run Windows NT as a business server. There's the box
here's my boot disk - Where do you want to go today? 8-)
WAHOO! I am in as Root! And I ain't gonna
tell you what it was!
No one ever doubted it could be done -- physical access to the system unit
gives opportunities to crack root that the best modem connection can't
offer. That's why serious business systems are kept in physically secure
areas. To enter the machine room where I work I have to
exchange the card-key
that gives me access to the building for one that gives me access to
that room -- and I have to trade back if I want to go outside to smoke
a cigarette.
That's cool! Very professional. Do they body search you before you go in
and after you come out? Hmmm... Cigarettes - another thread!
Now, anyone
know what the Streaming Tape Drive device is called?
I can boot with this (an old Adaptec SCSI board) installed.
Look in the /dev directory and see what devices are listed containing
strings such mt, rmt etc. Hell, mail me a 'ls -l' of /dev and I can
probably tell you -- some vendor device drivers gave things funny names. *** CB811 --
(C) Copyright 1986 Computone Systems, Inc.
(C) Copyright 1987, 1988 Texas Instruments Inc.
Computone is best known for multi-port serial boards. These are probably
8-port boards to connect to terminals. What do the connectors on these
boards look like? SPA
initialization complete
Yes, 'SPA' probably stands for 'serial port adapter'. Streaming
cartridge tape v2.00[A] (int=3,dma=3,base=00000220)
Is the mechanism a full-size Quarter-inch drive or one of those little
Irwin/CMS type drives? Don't try putting a Soundblaster compatible sound
card in that box
without careful setting of jumpers. Then again, Xenix of that era
probably won't support it anyway.
You know I keep hearing about these *SoundBlaster* thingies. What the
heck are they anyway 8-)
All of that looks pretty normal.
Hey if it comes up at all - that's pretty *ab*normal - least around me!
So what utilities are on the machine? Does it have
the Software
Development package? (type 'cc' to check). Does it have the Text
Processing package?
Give me some time! I don't think it has much of anything on it. I just
made a list of files and will go thru them today. I could use some file
names (as grep is easy to use 8-)
BC
9:43 a.m.
On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Brett wrote:
Well, I find much of the discussion about getting the yellowing from tar
and nicotine off of the cases to be rather irrelevant -- for almost of
twenty years, my nocturnal hacking has been with an overflowing ashtray on
one side of the keyboard and a twelve-pack of something above 3.2% on the
other. Yes, I Windex the screens -- the yellowing of off-white cases I
find relaxing. (I live in New Jersey, but I'm from Los Angeles -- that
means that while the groundwater is fine, due to the lack of an inversion
layer the air is lacking in essential vitamins -- two generations in L.A.
and evolution worked. I _need_ the supplementary carbon monoxide, and
jogging behind busses is too much like exercise.)
That's the connector to connect an eight-port box to the board -- _all_
of the signals for all eight serial ports are present on that connector
-- figuring which pin is which line on which port is the next best thing
to do without a schematic or the box to dissect.
You are 100% correct Ward. This is the major failing
of just anybody
trying to setup and run Windows NT as a business server. There's the box
here's my boot disk - Where do you want to go today? 8-)
For the company Notes system, the NT Servers are in the same room. It's
an insurance company -- they've gotten into the security habit strongly
since they installed about the third production Univac I that was ever
made back about the time I was born.
To enter the
machine room where I work I have to exchange the card-key
that gives me access to the building for one that gives me access to
that room -- and I have to trade back if I want to go outside to smoke
a cigarette.
That's cool! Very professional. Do they body search you before you go in
and after you come out? Hmmm... Cigarettes - another thread! Found it in a cron file. It's called rct0 (I
thought I tried that before
I wrote the list- oh well!)
Yeah, I recall the device name. It was unique to QIC drives under Xenix,
as far as I can recall -- though there might have been carryover into SCO
Unix -- I've never set up a SCO Unix system with one.
Computone is
best known for multi-port serial boards. These are probably
8-port boards to connect to terminals. What do the connectors on these
boards look like?
?62 pin D-shells? With my eyes - it hard to tell. Smallest row has 20 and
three rows of pins in the *dongle*. That *Dongle* wieghs in at about 7
lbs! I have three dongles and 2 cards for 16 ports. If I had one more
card - 24 9.6k baud modems - I could use up a T1 8-) > > SPA initialization complete
> Yes, 'SPA' probably stands for
'serial port adapter'.
Aside - What the heck is that shorty card in there?
All epoxied up.
Says TI on it. Metal shield. Any ideas?
Damfino -- never did a TI Xenix system. Did Xenix on Tandy, Altos, and
with SCO a shitload of 386 platforms, but not TI.
Don't recognize anything on it that has a name I
know. Full 1/4 inch
on a DC600 tape (I now have one blank 8-) Yup - got the tape to work!
Cool. Those mini-QIC drives have never given me _anything_ but grief.
11:02 a.m.
On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Ward Griffiths and/or Lisa Rogers wrote:
Aside - What the heck is that shorty card in there? All epoxied up.
Says TI on it. Metal shield. Any ideas?
Damfino -- never did a TI Xenix system. Did Xenix on Tandy, Altos, and
with SCO a shitload of 386 platforms, but not TI.
This is the SPA card. It has 3 20 pin chips and 1 24 pin chip in it (from
looking at the back). It has LAB1 as a part name and on the slot cover
it says "SPA ID NUMBER : 3531". On the drive is an installation script
to change SPA passwords. Three entries :
# cat /etc/softpwd
DFMX_1.0:052B46346E1F471943210A3344174B3D3D064C01:
TISAM2.4:024427482D315F1A3F2D572F6C006D1A21230B6B:
COBRT2.0:0B7125683B101E6B360D204A7B0717571C3F6F59:
Looks like some protection thingy for Cobol and a Database thing.
No problems - so far 8-)
On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Brett wrote:
For the company Notes system, the NT Servers are in the same room. It's
an insurance company -- they've gotten into the security habit strongly
since they installed about the third production Univac I that was ever
made back about the time I was born.
The people that you could REALLY hurt if you broke security!
[Section moved to end 8-)]
SPA
initialization complete
Yes, 'SPA' probably stands for 'serial port
adapter'. Don't
recognize anything on it that has a name I know. Full 1/4 inch
on a DC600 tape (I now have one blank 8-) Yup - got the tape to work!
Cool. Those mini-QIC drives have never given me _anything_ but grief.
From the age, that drive is probable 60 MB, but could be as much as 150. Well, Xenix is pretty rugged, even on an Intel box.
Definitely!
> > So what utilities are on the machine? Does
it have the Software
> > Development package? (type 'cc' to check). Does it have the Text
> > Processing package?
No cc 8-( Maybe time to turn it into a Linux Box.
For text processing, look for 'troff' in a bin
directory. Of course, an
'ls /usr/games' will tell you whether or not the machine is worth keeping
for the long run. Especially if you've got 'rogue' or 'hack' (and if
you
don't, I suspect they can be tracked down).
No troff either &-( And no games! What the heck!
> > To enter the machine room where I work I
have to exchange the card-key
> > that gives me access to the building for one that gives me access to
> > that room -- and I have to trade back if I want to go outside to smoke
> > a cigarette.
> That's cool! Very professional. Do they body search you before you go in
> and after you come out? Hmmm... Cigarettes - another thread!
Well, I find much of the discussion about getting the
yellowing from tar
and nicotine off of the cases to be rather irrelevant -- for almost of
twenty years, my nocturnal hacking has been with an overflowing ashtray on
one side of the keyboard and a twelve-pack of something above 3.2% on the
other.
Well, I also crank up Led Zeppelin and go for something in the 18 proof
range 8-) Sometimes I mellow out with Readers Digest "Big Band Era" - but
I'm strange. (Man can Christopher Columbus bang those drums!)
Yes, I Windex the screens -- the yellowing of
off-white cases I find
relaxing. (I live in New Jersey, but I'm from Los Angeles -- that means
that while the groundwater is fine, due to the lack of an inversion
layer the air is lacking in essential vitamins -- two generations in
L.A. and evolution worked. I _need_ the supplementary carbon monoxide,
and jogging behind busses is too much like exercise.)
Not EXACTLY what I meant 8-) I was wondering - with all the secoandhand
smoke info flowing around - if you ever had a "hardware" failure directly
tied to cigarettes? I had one. The damn thing rolled off the ashtray onto
a 5 1/4 disk. Melted it before I could get to it. That's why I make
backups! But I use to teach computers in - oh 82-85. We used 8 inch drives
and thru a *design* flaw the fans sucked instead of blew. Used to flip my
ashes right in there. Used to throw the floppy up and then jump on it.
In all those years, I lost one disk. Had my boots reheeled after that 8-)
But smoking and computers are A BIG NO!NO! I can see a problem with maybe
CD-ROMS and floppies - tar gumming up the works - but I have never had a
failure that wouldn't have been as bad if it was Kool-Aid or something.
I think sugar based stuff is the worst for computers. Conductive and
fluid! Ouch!
BC
3:27 p.m.
On Sun, 29 Jun 1997, Brett wrote:
Not EXACTLY what I meant 8-) I was wondering - with
all the secoandhand
smoke info flowing around - if you ever had a "hardware" failure directly
tied to cigarettes? I had one. The damn thing rolled off the ashtray onto
Well, I _do_ insert a cleaning diskette into each drive every year
whether it's given me any grief or not. Of course, I've been using the
same 5.25 cleaning disk since 1979 and the 3.5 since 1986. I suppose I
should at _least_ buy a new bottle of the stuff I'm supposed to dribble
onto the cleaning disks.
a 5 1/4 disk. Melted it before I could get to it.
That's why I make
backups! But I use to teach computers in - oh 82-85. We used 8 inch drives
and thru a *design* flaw the fans sucked instead of blew. Used to flip my
The _only_ diskettes I've ever damaged directly with cigarettes have been
intentionally. A floppy gives me grief, I quadruple the diameter of the
sector detect hole as a warning to others. Oh, and I do that to any and
all unsolicited (which means all) AOL disks I encounter. Since the new
3.5 inch AOL disks don't have easily expandable sector detects, I just
start the tip of the cigarette through the "O" in "AOL". And the
occasional AOL CD goes in the microwave to make pretty lights.
ashes right in there. Used to throw the floppy up and
then jump on it.
In all those years, I lost one disk. Had my boots reheeled after that 8-)
But smoking and computers are A BIG NO!NO! I can see a problem with maybe
CD-ROMS and floppies - tar gumming up the works - but I have never had a
failure that wouldn't have been as bad if it was Kool-Aid or something.
I think sugar based stuff is the worst for computers. Conductive and
fluid! Ouch!
Had a cat knock a 16oz. can of Midnight Dragon Ale into a keyboard once.
Just a PC keyboard, so nothing crucial -- I gave the keyboard to an idiot
to clean and make his own and spent $20 on a better keyboard.
--
Ward Griffiths
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within
the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." --Claire Wolfe
5:43 a.m.
On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Brett wrote:
WAHOO! I am in as Root! And I ain't gonna tell you what it was!
That's not very friendly.
Now, anyone know what the Streaming Tape Drive device
is called?
I can boot with this (an old Adaptec SCSI board) installed.
I know, but I ain't gonna tell you what it is!
Sam
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