Hi guys, just wanted to say what I got at TCF.
I managed to get there at 3:45 on Sunday (15 minutes before closing on the
last day of the show.) Anyway here's what I got:
2 Seagate MFM Hard Drives *FREE*
1 Sysquest tape(?) drive *FREE*
the tape drive is about the size of a CD-ROM, what is it?
1 Apple IIe Users Guide *FREE*
(why? I dunno, it was in the trash)
1 CBM 8032 $5
(this things got some kind of memory board that plugs into the CPU
socket and a parallel interface)
1 Funky Mouse *FREE*
This last thing I need help with. It looks to be about 20+ years old but
I could be wrong... It is bright red, almost perfectly round, has a steel
ball as the roller, 3 black switches, and says "5271" and then "DEPRAZ -
MOUSE" on the bottom. It has what looks likea standard serial cable. The
guy said it was for a terminal right before he threw it out. Any ideas?
More importantly.... do you think I could use it on my PeeCEE? 8)
Les
PS what'd everyone else get at TCF?
On 02-May-97, classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu wrote:
>> This was actually the first machine produced with the name
>> TANDY instead of TRS-80. The Model 2000 was the last of
>> the TRS-80 line.
>No. The Tandy 2000 never had a TRS-80 logo. The 4D was the last
>TRS-80 much later on. All of the MS-DOS machines were Tandy, not
>TRS-80.
Ward,
The Model 2000 did carry the TRS-80 logo. The black/silver badge on the
front of the machine, which was rotatable in case you put the 2000 upright on
it's nifty floor stand, said 'Tandy' on the first line, in a black band,
'TRS-80' on the second in a silver band, and 'Model 2000 Personal Computer' in
the third on another black band. This is clearly shown on the front of the
'Tandy Service Manual: Tandy Model 2000 Personal Computer'. I owned one of
these machines for a number of years, but sold it when I got caught in the
clone upgrade mania. Now I'm working on purchasing another.
Also, I aquired an Atari XE System today, with the optional keyboard, along
with two 1050 disk drives. Cute little machine, and includes the light gun.
Anyone in need of a 1050 disk drive for an Atari 8bit? I don't need both, and
don't have a PSU to test either out with.
Jeff jeffh(a)eleventh.com
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TRS-80 Color Computer-3 and Model 4, plus Atari Superpong and
2600VCS game consoles.
At 04:01 PM 4/29/97 -0400, Roger Merchberger wrote:
>Nope. Sorry about this, but I used to work for RS and I have an Atari
>800... (sorry... no spare power supplies) and I can honestly say that I
>doubt you will find any power supply from there that puts out AC. The only
>machine that I can remember (and I remember most) from RS that took an AC
>wart was the Tandy MC-10 (micro color computer), which took 8VAC at 1A
>IIRC. You can't even get this PS from RS anymore, and it was for their own
>computer!
>
>Sadly, if it ain't DC, RS won't have one...
>
>One thing I would be willing to do (when I have time, which won't be for at
>least a month) is to open one of my PS's for an exact schematic & parts
>list to build your own. I do know all the parts to build an AC PS are
>available at the Shack... not sure of cost, of course.
>
>Lemme know if you want me to do this, and remind me in a couple of months
>that I volunteered to perform said surgery.
>
That's a shocker for me. I think I need to learn a little more about
electronics, and if you tear yours apart, I would love to have a copy of the
schematics. It might be a good learners project for me, and useful as well.
>On this note... I do know that there is a *lot* of software on the Web for
>8-bits, but does anyone know where I can find a utility to read/write SSSD
>Atari disks on my IBM? I do know that the extended density stuff is just
>not possible on PeeCee's, but SD should be possible.
At http://www.emulators.com the now have the schematics for their xformer
cable on the web site, which should work with their xformer software, there
is also a product called ape which is at http://www.nacs.net/~classics which
allows you to connect your atari to a pc. They also have schematics and a
program to run an atari disk with a pc, to copy and create disks. I have
read a lot of flap about incompatibilities writing disks back and forth
between the two types of drives. Of course, you could get a black box or an
atr8000 and I think that would allow you to use a pc floppy with your atari.
I have actually never tried any of these, I just use a null modem cable and
transfer the software back and forth.
Isaac Davis
idavis(a)comland.com
indavis(a)juno.com
As those of you who follow the comp.sys.apple2 groups know, there never
was an ethernet board for the apple2, and the one that apple designed for
the 2gs never went into large scale production. This annoys me, since
the gs is certainly capable of running network applications - it comes
>from the factory with appletalk/localtalk. So I've been thinking about this
problem for a while.
Before I go into my "solution", I should mention that I'm in no way an
electronic engineer, and the odds of my even attempting to do this on my
own, let alone succeeding, aren't very good. But it seemed like an idea
at least worth sharing, on the grounds that maybe one of you who IS an
engineer could make some bucks inventing this thing.
My idea is this: build an ethernet board for the apple2 series with the
following parameters: 1. it looks to the system exactly like a localtalk
board, only faster. 2. it has enough brains to analyze outgoing frames to
see if, in fact, what is being sent is ip encapsulated in appletalk. If so,
de-encapsulate it and transmit it as straight IP. - this is a software issue,
really, but it needs to happen in the firmware of the ethernet board, so...
3. It has enough brains to analyze incoming frames and determine if in
fact the frame is an IP frame. If so, encapsulate it in appletalk and
feed it to the system.
4. It has a way of turning all this brainpower off and being driven with a
normal ethernet driver running on the host system.
5. It can do any translation between appletalk and ethertalk so the machine
can talk to it's Macintosh kin.
My reasoning for all the shenanigans with appletalk and ip is this: no
standard mechanism exists for talking to an ethernet board in an apple2.
However, the GS comes with atalk drivers in rom, and you can get them for
earlier apples, and a lot of software does do tcp-ip over appletalk,
assuming it's going to be talking to an appletalk/IP router downstream.
Caviets:
I haven't looked at the appletalk/ethertalk/localtalk protocol to make
sure what I'm suggesting is sane. Same goes for tcp-ip over appletalk.
There's a standard for this stuff, but I haven't looked it up yet.
Anyway, that's my idea. Feedback will be greatly appreciated.
--
Jim Strickland
jim(a)calico.litterbox.com
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In the lengthy "Re: yo" thread, Mr. Ismail mentions:
[double-quote from Mr. Donzelli]
> > PDP-8, PDP-11, IBM S/3xx, Nova, etc. Computers were not invented in 1974,
> > guys.
>
> Yes, I realized that. The PDP-8 and PDP-11 are definitely worthy of
> mention, but did they really make the impact and have significance equal
> to the Altair and the others? I'm sure you could argue to that effect.
> Care to?
It's probably fair to say the the minicomputer actually made more
of an impact in society than the micro has. It was the minicomputer
which was first affordable to smaller companies and operations; the
mini was also the first class of machine available to schools of
modest means. You'll find that almost every microcomputer designer
was, at some point in time, touched by a mini, and sometimes their
designs reflect that.
One of the original Apple's designers actually held the DG Nova
in such high esteem it's rumoured that he kept a picture of one
taped to his bedroom wall.
Billy Gates did the original work on his BASIC interpreter with
stolen time on a PDP-10 (though, that can't really be termed a
mini).
Most of the impact, though, of the mini is behind the scenes;
they made manufacturing more efficient through the increased use
of CNC, made scientific experimentation more prodcutive through
more accurate experiment monitoring, and found their way into all
manner of hospital equipment.
This isn't meant to downplay the changes brought forth by the
microcomputer, which with the advent of the Internet are enormous,
but merely to place the minicomputer in the light of day. The
changes were different from the micro, but certainly not unimportant.
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How do I change back to the way I had it before where the mail would arrive
separately rather than 40 in one message?
Are they really the same messages? When I subscribed to the weekly thing,
it seemed that the message thread had completely changed.
mhop(a)snip.net
At 09:07 PM 4/27/97 -0800, Larry Anderson & Diane Hare wrote:
>The 1200XL is a different matter, Powered up, got the logo, went to
>diagnostics, sound O.K., Memory looks good, but keyboard... I can get
>the top row (reset,start,select,option, & help) working but the other
>keys seem dead. The strange thing is I gboot up BASIC and I press a
>letter and the computer responds with it's 'click' sound but no key
>(maybe something in the decoding logic???) Any Atarians got a clue?
>
>Since I only have the one power supply I had to power up the 1050 as a
>standalone the head did a quick back-fourth motion and the activity
>light stopped so that seems to be a promising sign. Second request:
>When I get a second supply I gonna kinda need a disk to run on this
>thing, can anyone help set me up with some essential disks (DOS,
>utilities, maybe some common games, etc.) I can trade for some fine
>Commodore Programs and such. (=))
>
I can't really tell you about the 1200XL, but it might have a connector
loose or not making a good connection inside. You might take it apart and
reseat the keyboard connector or ribbon whichever it may be. As for power
supplies, you should be able to get an equivalent power supply at radio
shack. Just bring the atari one in, and they should be able to match it. I
can ship off a couple of disks to you with DOS, and a few games. I will
check out your web page for your address, but if it's not there, just let me
know where to send the disks. There is a guy here in Austin, that has a lot
of atari software for sale at really great prices. His name is Rick
Detlefsen and his email address is 74766.1561(a)CompuServe.COM I have bought
some software and an 850 interface from him, and his prices are great. I
think I paid $0.60 for a Robotron cart from him, and it even had the box and
manual. I will put together a few disks with some stuff on it, and send
them to you. Hope this helps.
Isaac Davis
idavis(a)comland.com
indavis(a)juno.com
> > How about Chuck Peddle?
>
> Who? (please explain!)
Chuck Peddle, while working at Motorola, was on the design
team for the 6800. He and a number of other engineers on
the team had a number of enhancements that they wanted to
make to the chip, but the higher-ups wouldn't let them.
They left Motorola to form MOS Technology, and developed
the 6502 line of CPUS. When Commodore decided to get into
the Personal Computer market, they bought MOS. One theory
is that they primarily wanted Peddle. Chuck went on to
design the early Commodore machines. (I'm not sure how
involved he was in the Kim-1, but he almost singlehandedly
designed the first PETs.)
This is mostly off the top of my head. If I made any
glaring errors (or minor ones, for that matter), please
let me know.
(If you do an Alta-vista search for +commodore +"chuck peddle"
you will get around 40 pages with info on him.)
> Sam
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I managed to pick up a beige, all plastic TI 99/A this weekend and if I
remember prior posts this is an uncommon version of this machine. I also saw
what looked like the standard black and chrome machine except that it had no
chrome at all. Did TI ever make such a machine or is it a standard machine
that was mutilated by some brute?
I also picked up a Commodore SX64 and a Franklin Ace 1000 (a sentimental
favorite of mine) as well as a CoCo floppy drive and interface cartridge.
It was a great weekend.
Lou
-----Original Message-----
From: Krzysztof Strzecha [SMTP:strzecha@kis.p.lodz.pl]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 1997 12:29 PM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: Sharp MZ-800
>Hi all !
>
> I recently bought SHARP MZ-800 with no documentation, either programs etc.
> Could anyone help me find any information & programs for it ?
I have a MZ-800 with 2x5.25"-Disk, manual and service-docs. I also have
a working boot-disk. Tell me what you need ...
You can also contact: Nobuaki Ohishi at GFB00551(a)niftyserve.or.jp
he knows everything about MZs. There are some WWW-pages
at http://may.csse.muroran-it.ac.jp/~ogawa/MZMuseum/
