test-drb April 1997

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by jeffh＠eleventh.com

I just got back from checking out the 3 thrift stores that are just a few blocks from my house, and made quite a nice haul today, and I've yet to check the big flea market for the weekend! I picked up the following: 1) 1 TI-99/4A cassette tape: 'Tunnels of Doom', #PHT 6073, circa 1982 2) 3 Commodre 64 cassette taes: 'Software Starter Kit', tape #3, circa 1983; 'Start Programming with Gortek and the Microchips', 2 tapes, circa 1982. 3) 5 Timex-Sinclair 1000 tapes: 'The List Manager', 'The Budgeter', 'The Checkbook Manager', 'The Gambler', 'Grimms Fairy Tales'. All are circa 1982 and require the 16k RAM expansion. Also, they are all still in thier original Black/Red cassette cases. I also picked up some misc. manuals as well. I've not had the chance to try any of the cassettes out, but they all turn freely. Jeff jeffh(a)eleventh.com -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- // Amiga: Today's Technology Ten Years Ago // ------------------------------------------------------- \// True 32bit pre-emptive multitasking GUI, plug&play hardware, \/ stereo sound, and 4096 color video modes since day #1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Collector of classic home computers: Amiga 1000, Atari 800, Atari 800XL, Atari Mega-ST/2, Commodore C-128 & C128D, Commodore Plus/4, Commodore VIC-20, Kaypro 2X, Mattel Aquarius, Osbourne Executive, Sinclair ZX-81, TI-99/4A, Timex-Sinclair 1000, TRS-80 Color Computer-3, and a TRS-80 Model 4. Plus Atari SuperPong and Atari 2600VCS game consoles.

27 years, 8 months

Cassette Tapes Aging

by jeffh＠eleventh.com

A few days ago, I posted a note asking for peoples thoughts about starting an archive for sound file images of cassette tapes. The couple of people I've heard from were fairly possitive about it, so I've decided to take the initiative and begin one. I have a two gig hard disk connected to my Amiga 3000, and am willing to use most of it to hold such an archive. Now I'd like to ask for subscribers to this list to email me images of data tapes that they may have for ANY classic computer platform. I would like to ask you do the following when doing so though: 1) Save the image as a .WAV file 2) Try to verify that the image will restore to a usuable tape, and load and run on the computer 3) include a short text file with a description and any comments such as required hardware or key commands 4) archive the files with either PKZIP or LHA 5) don't email me more than 2 images at a time. I am open to any comments or suggestions concerning this, including suggestions on what would be a good name for the archive. I also have a 2.5gig 8mm tape drive connected to my Amiga, so it would be fairly easy to back the archive up on occassion. Jeff jeffh(a)eleventh.com -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- // Amiga: Today's Technology Ten Years Ago // ------------------------------------------------------- \// True 32bit pre-emptive multitasking GUI, plug&play hardware, \/ stereo sound, and 4096 color video modes since day #1 --------------------------------------------------------------------- Collector of classic home computers: Amiga 1000, Atari 800, Atari 800XL, Atari Mega-ST/2, Commodore C-128 & C128D, Commodore Plus/4, Commodore VIC-20, Kaypro 2X, Mattel Aquarius, Osbourne Executive, Sinclair ZX-81, TI-99/4A, Timex-Sinclair 1000, TRS-80 Color Computer-3, and a TRS-80 Model 4. Plus Atari SuperPong and Atari 2600VCS game consoles.

27 years, 8 months

Compucolor

by MPritchard＠ensemble.net

Hey guys, is there any information on a machine called "Compucolor" from the late 70's around? I did a search on a couple engines and came up with nothing. I'm asking because about 3 years ago, I let a working machine slip through my hands (I had actually programmed on that same machine back in '79) Next month, when I go back home, I'm going to launch an effort to find it (if it hasn't been thrown away). Thanks, Matt Pritchard graphics_grunt@ensemble_studios

27 years, 8 months

Vectrex (was RE: Stuff I found & WWW update)

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

You can get Vectrex controllers from http://www.atari2600.com He generally has a range available, from $50 used (which is probably more than you paid for the system, but you should see the prices a complete system goes for) to $70 new in a box. BTW, you should pick up the Multicart, which has every Vectrex game ever produced in one cartridge with an on-screen menu select. See http://www.xnet.com/~skelly/multis.htm. This is the page for the guy who manufactures the multicarts, but you can also buy them from atari2600.com. You can get reproduction color overlays from http://home.earthlink.net/~mfmurdock/Vectrex/vectrex.htm. The web pointer list for Vectrex is at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~lkseitz/cvg/nexus/Home/Vectrex/. There is actually one person creating brand new games for the Vectrex! Kai > ---------- > From: A.R. Duell[SMTP:ard12@eng.cam.ac.uk] > Sent: Friday, April 04, 1997 2:18 AM > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers > Subject: Re: Stuff I found & WWW update > > > Vectrex Game system, looks kinda grimey and no joystick, but does > > power up with the space mines game, already found a few resources on > the > > 'net but not the pinouts for the joystick yet. > > The _service_ manual is available from ftp.csus.edu in /pub/vectrex, I > think. That contains a full schematic, and hence a pinout of the > joystick > port. If you can't find it, I'll dig out the pinout. > > I also have schematics of adapters to use Tandy CoCo and IBM PC > joysticks > with the Vectrex. If you'd like copies, I'd be happy to provide them. > > > -- > -tony > ard12(a)eng.cam.ac.uk > The gates in my computer are AND,OR and NOT, not Bill >

27 years, 8 months

Stuff I found & WWW update

by ard12＠eng.cam.ac.uk

> The _service_ manual is available from ftp.csus.edu in /pub/vectrex, I > think. That contains a full schematic, and hence a pinout of the joystick > port. If you can't find it, I'll dig out the pinout. As I've found it, I might as well post it.... Here you are : 1 Switch 0 (Push to make, connected between here and ground) 2 Switch 1 3 Swtich 2 4 Switch 3 5 Pot 0 (X direction, -5V to +5V analogue input) 6 Pot 1 (Y direction, -5V to +5V analogue input) 7 +5V 8 Ground 9 -5V The vectrex connector is a 9 pin D, but it's down a rather deep hole. A normal socket won't fit, alas. I've found the best thing to do is to buy the extension lead for a Sega control pad, cut the _plug_ off the cable, and use the socket (which fits after a bit of cutting) and cable to connect to the Vectrex. Make sure you buy a cable that connects to all 9 pins - all the ones I've found do. -- -tony ard12(a)eng.cam.ac.uk The gates in my computer are AND,OR and NOT, not Bill

27 years, 8 months

Stuff I found & WWW update

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

Well in a last minute romp over to Oakdale (CA) I found a few goodies to add to my collection. A thrift store (located on F Street, FYI) had a good selection that day AND a 1/2 price sale! What I picked up: An Atari 800; always liked this machine, good resolution, fun games and FOUR joystick ports. I popped open the cartridge cover before purchasing to discover the BASIC cart ws in it. After getting it home I found it was loaded with 48k of RAM, now all I have to do is start looking for a power supply and other peripherals to go with it (if it works). Can't wait till I find star raiders and all those other cool games I saw at store displays years back. This is a divergence from my mainly Commodore collection but prices are pretty tempting nowadays... (at least there is something good about the intel/microsoft hype). Vectrex Game system, looks kinda grimey and no joystick, but does power up with the space mines game, already found a few resources on the 'net but not the pinouts for the joystick yet. A Commodore Greenline Calculator WITH the power supply. A nice compliment to the two Minutemans (a model 6 and 6X) and the rechargable one (which I have to still figure out if the rechargable batteries are still good.) What I left behind: A Commodore Plus/4 (computer, power supply and books located at various locations around the store.) I have a couple already, that should be enough. A Beige TI 99/4a (in box w/power supply, $20.) They also had an extra TI 99/4a keyboard assembly for about $5... Tandy 2000 (keyboard priced separately from CPU), then the usual monochrome monitors, Atari joysticks, etc... Also... I just uploaded some new stuff to my web page! So step rrrrright up and see the amazing Commodore Collection of Larry Anderson, a rare glimpse at a Commodore P-500 Computer, A few notes on the Commodore PET, and what happened at the last Silicon Realms BBS Gaming/Gathering! just go to: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare Larry Anderson

27 years, 8 months

Weekend Scavenging

by ronaldm＠mars.ark.com

> >Yep, it was another profitable weekend scavenging mission! You were indeed busy. :) 2. Tandy Color Computer. Boasts a whopping 4k! Fixed a broken >keyboard - now all I have to do is find some software. Is this a RADIO Shack Co-Co? If so, I have software, but I don't think any of it would run in 4k. The model I have is a 64k version. > >5. HP Series 100. This one doesn't currently work. It will >probably be a project for some upcoming weekend. Anyone know >what it is? Very strange little machine... I have 2 HP150's. If your HP100 is a forerunner, it could be constructed such that the computer and monitor are in one unit. Do you have a keyboard with it? I really have no knowledge of the earlier model you have, but there is a FIDOnet echo devoted to Hewlett Packard's equipment, and I believe there were some contacts on there who know a thing or two about the older machines. -Ron Mitchell

27 years, 8 months

How long will they last?

by ronaldm＠mars.ark.com

> >I was talking to a friend this weekend who brought >up this idea that before long EPROMs in our old >computers are going to start to go bad. According to the experts in our Coleco ADAM group, there is truth to this. Apparently computer chips generally have a tendency to fail after about 10 years. I have 4 Coleco ADAMs all roughly the same age (12 years) and I've yet to experience this problem with any of them. Unfortunately in our case 1 of the chips, the MIOC or Memory Input/Output Controller is a rarity and apparently cannot be duplicated. Most of us have been stockpiling old ADAMs in the hopes of keeping ourselves going as long as we can. (We're like Edsul owners... we refuse to give up). At any rate, I don't know of anyone in our community who has experienced the problem.... yet, but we've been warned. -Ron Mitchell

27 years, 8 months

Classic computers & home video game systems for sale/trade/wanted

by kaikal＠MICROSOFT.com

> For Sale/Trade: > > - Kaypro II CP/M portable > - TRS-80 Model 4 > - Commodore VIC-20 in original box, power supply, some docs > - Commodore 64 in original box, power supply, manuals (plus various > accessories available) > - Commodore 128 in original box, power supply > - Atari 1200XL computer (no power supply, untested) > - Colecovision, 2 controllers, power supply, a few games > - Atari 5200, base system unit only > > Computers Wanted: > > - S-100 bus systems (specifically Altair, Imsai, North Star, Processor > Tech, Cromemco) > - TI 99/4A in original box only > - IBM 5100 portable > - Exidy Sorcerer > - Compucolor II or 8051 > - Atari 400 or 800 (not XL) > - RCA COSMAC VIP - KIM-1 > Software/Accessories Wanted: > > - Microsoft Adventure for Apple II or TRS-80 > - CP/M & any manuals/diagrams for Altair, Imsai, North Star, Processor > Tech, Cromemco, Kaypro, Osborne > - Atari 5200 controllers > - Lear Siegler ADM-3a dumb terminal > - S-100 bus cards > > Game Systems Wanted: > - Tandy VIS > - Bally Professional Arcade > - Fairchild Channel F > - Magnavox Odyssey (not Odyssey2) > - Sears Telegames Pong (not Super Pong, not Atari-branded) > - Intellivision, Sega Master System or any Atari model in original > boxes only (I already have them loose) >

27 years, 8 months

The list

by bill＠booster.bothell.washington.edu

I've been scraping this together for a few months. I though some of you might have use for it. Bill Whitson ClassicCmp "owner" bcw(a)u.washington.edu bill(a)booster.u.washington.edu --- Computers Through 1988 Part 1/3 (Manufacturers A-D) This list is compiled from various sources: fliers, magazines, ads, manuals, and price books. The information is as acurate as the original sources. The dates are probably particularly unreliable as many of them are just guesses. I have excluded most PC clones from this list. A few of the more important, or interesting PC's are listed. If you have anything to add or revise, contact Bill Whitson (e-mail bill(a)booster.u.washington.edu). MANUFACTURER MODEL CA ------------------------------------------------------------------- Acorn Model B 82 Automated Computer Systems 4040 MC 78 8080 MC 79 Z80 MCS 81 ACE Discovery 500 83 Discovery 1600 83 Actrix Computers Actrix 83 Adra Systems Model 1000 86 Model 3000 86 Advanced Digital Corp. SuperStar 84 Alcyon Alcyon 84 Alpha Info Systems Model 100 77 Alpha MicroSystems Model 680 84 Model 1000 82 ALSPA Computer ACI-1 81 ACI-2 82 Altos Computer Systems Model 580 83 Model 680 85 Model 3068 88 Model 8000 78 Advanced Micro Devices Model 96 80 Ampere, Inc. WS1A 85 WS1B 85 APF Electronics IM1 80 Apollo Computer Model 400 82 Apple Computer, Inc. II 78 II+ 81 IIe 82 IIc 85 IIc+ 86 IIgs 86 III 83 III+ 84 Lisa 1 83 Lisa 2 84 Macintosh 128 84 Macintosh XL 84 Applied Electronics Model 10 81 Model 15 81 AT&T 3B2/300 86 3B2/400 86 Atari 400 80 600 82 800 83 800XL 84 1200XL 83 130XE 84 520ST 85 1040ST 85 Mega 2 87 Mega 4 87 Auragen Systems System 4000 84 Barreto Associates MicroMaster 83 Barrington International Elite 82 Barrister Info Systems Law Office Manager 75 Basis Model 108 80 BBN Computer Corp. C60 80 C70 81 Beehive Corp. The Topper 83 Bell Computer Systems Model 4 84 Bell and Howell Model 78400 83 Model 3016 83 Berkel Systems Model 4410 74 Billings Computer Corp. System 500 82 System 6000 82 BC12 79 BlackHawk Computers BlackHawk 3 79 BlackHawk 4 79 BMC, Inc. Model 20C 81 Model 20G 81 Bondwell Computers BW2 85 BW8 86 BW12 85 BW14 85 BW16 85 BOS Systems BOS-M 81 Cyte 86 82 BTI Computer Systems BTI 4800 84 BTI 5000 83 BTI 6000 84 BTI 8000 85 Burroughs Corp. B1800 83 B1910 83 OW400 82 CADO Systems CAT III 82 System 20 78 CCG Ultra PDP 11/23 83 Ultra PDP 11/44 83 Ultra PDP 11/73 83 Ultra 11/730 83 California Computer Systems Model 1000 82 Model 3000 83 System 200 81 System 300 81 System 400 81 Callan Data Systems CD 100 81 CD 100M 82 UniStar 100 84 UniStar 200 84 UniStar 300 84 Canaan Computer Corp. 5410 85 5412 84 Canon, Inc. TX-10/15 80 Casio, Inc. FX-9000 83 Computer Consoles, Inc. Power 5 84 Control Data Corp. Cyber 18 76 Model 110 83 Computer Enhancement Corp. CE Micro 1 83 Centurion Computer Corp. Model 100 79 Model 200 79 Model 5200 82 Model 5300 82 Model 6100 83 Model 6200 83 Model 7100 84 Model 9200 84 Micro Plus 82 Century Computer Corp. System 300 75 System 400 75 System 700 75 System 900 75 Vanguard 8000 82 Vanguard 8500 82 X1000 75 X2000 75 Challenge Systems, Inc. CS1000 82 Charles River Data Systems Universe 32/115T 85 Universe 32/137T 85 Universe 32/35 85 Universe 65/115T 85 Universe 68/05 82 Universe 68/137T 84 Universe 68/35 84 Universe 2402 85 Charter Information Corp. System 4 83 CIE Systems, Inc. 680/20 83 680/30 83 680/40 83 680/50 87 680/100 84 680/150 87 680/200 84 CMC Systems SuperSystem 1 81 SuperSystem 2 82 Codex Corporation Model 268/21 83 Model 268/24 82 Model 268/44 82 Colby Computer MacColby 128 84 MacColby 512 84 Coleco Industries, Inc. ADAM 83 Colonial Data Services SB80 81 Columbia Data Products Commander 500 79 Commander 964 79 Commander FX 79 Comark Corp. Disktor M1 83 Disktor M3 83 Disktor Q 79 Commodore 655 83 128 86 Amiga 500 87 Amiga 1000 86 Amiga 2000 87 8032 79 16 84 64 82 Executive 64 83 PET 79 SuperPET 81 VIC-20 81 Plus 4 84 Compal Computer Systems 8200+ 81 Electric Briefcase 82 EZ Type 83 CompTech EVE II 85 CompuCorp Model 745 83 Model 799 83 Compupro Systems System 816/10 84 System 816/A 82 System 816/E 84 System 816/G 84 System 816/Z 84 The Computerist Focus FLEX 82 Covergent Technologies MiniFrame 86 MiniFrame Plus 86 MightyFrame 86 Cortex Systems Microdent 1 79 Microdent 2 79 Cromemco, Inc. C10 82 CS-1 82 CS100 85 CS110 86 CS115 87 CS120 86 CS200 86 CS220 86 CS300 86 CS400 86 CS420 86 CS-2 82 CS-3 83 System 100 84 System 300 84 System 0 82 CYB Systems MultiBox I 82 MultiBox II 82 Cyberchron CDS-201 79 CDS-231 83 Data General Corp CEO 81 CB/50 83 CS/5 82 CS/10 80 CS/20 83 CS/30 83 CS/40 83 CS/50 80 CS/60 83 CS/70 80 CS/100 82 CS/200 82 Eclipse C/150 79 Eclipse C/350 78 Eclipse MV/4000 82 Eclipse S/120 83 Eclipse S/130 83 Eclipse S/140 80 Eclipse S/250 83 Eclipse S/280 83 Enterprise 1000 81 Enterprise 3000 81 MPT/80 83 MPT/100 83 Nova 3 83 Nova 4 83 Datamac Computer Systems Series 1200 81 Datapoint Corp. Model 1560 82 Model 8600 81 Model 8800 81 Series 1800 83 Series 4000 83 Series 6600 78 Datavue Corp. 80/100 81 80/200 81 80/300 81 80/400 83 3000 79 DEC Correspondent 83 Datasystem 150 83 Datasystem 208 78 Datasystem 300 83 Datasystem 315 83 Datasystem 320 83 Datasystem 336 83 Datasystem 356 83 Datasystem 512 83 Datasystem 500 83 DECMate II 82 Micro/PDP-11 82 MicroVAX I 84 PDP-11/23 82 PDP-11/24 81 PDP-11/34 76 PDP-11/44 80 PDP-11/70 75 Professional 300 82 Professional 325 83 Professional 350 83 Rainbow 100 82 Rainbow 100+ 83 VAX-11/730 82 VAX-11/750 80 Deltadata Systems Corp. D8000 83 Micro Manager 83 Delta Products Inc. Delta One 83 Delta Two 83 Delta Four 83 DP/Net 83 DP/125 83 Digicomp Research System 100 81 Digidyne 5832 77 5864 80 Series 200 82 Digital Microsystems DMS-3 83 DMS-4 80 DMS-15 83 DMS-86 82 DMS-1280 83 DMS-5080 82 Digital Technology Model 580 79 Digitex Model 7100 83 Model 7200 83 Model 7300 83 Model 7500 83 Model 8100 83 Model 8200 83 Model 8300 83 Model 8500 83 Dimension Computer Corp. 1010 82 1020 82 2010 82 3020 83 Direct, Inc. Model 1000 81 Model 1025 81 Model 1031 83 Display Data Corp. Insight 74 DMC Systems Commfile 78 Docutel BCS 2025 80 BCS 2030 79 DC-M18 84 M10 84 M20 83 P6060 77 S6000 81 DTC 710 83 A22 83 B23 82 Micro 210 81 Data Technology Industries Associate 79 Dual Systems Control Corp. 83/20 84 83/80 84 83/500 84 Durango Systems Inc. 800 79 800XR 83 900 83 910 83 Dynabyte Business Computers 6600 82 6900 82 Monarch 6000 82 ---end-

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