At 19:38 10/1/97 -0800, you wrote:
>....I am not certain if the 150
>is in the "Classic" arena but I am assuming so by a pic I found on the
>web, if not sorry on printing an off-topic post.
The HP-150 is:
1) vintage 1984, and
2) absolutely fascinating.
It could make "Classic" tenuously on either one and, given both, has NO
problem. Now -- what I keep wondering about is an Atari Portfolio (1989)....
Kip Crosby engine(a)chac.org
Computer History Association of California
I just picked up 34 'Hewlett Packard 150' diskettes; except for one
they are all user labeled (Well I THINK they are all HP-150 disks, the
disk type and labeling are very similar.) I am not certain if the 150
is in the "Classic" arena but I am assuming so by a pic I found on the
web, if not sorry on printing an off-topic post.
So, if there is anyone here that is interested in 34 assorted HP-150
disks, lemme know.
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While dropping by a local thrift (where classic game cartridges were
last seen 1 and half years ago) I spotted at least 3 square modules
which I recognized to be Unisys or Convergent Technologies machines
which ran BTOS/CTOS. As I recall these modules snapped together along a
bus (X-bus?) that ran along the bottom of each module. I didn't take a
closer look to see what they were, but if anyone in the list is
interested, I could go back for them to determine what is there and what
price is wanted (yes, I'm offering to pick up and ship for a nominal fee
- I'm just a nice guy..)
I played it about 5 years ago. I let the machine slip through my
fingers though (thru neglect of interest). Still a chance it can be dug
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kai Kaltenbach [SMTP:kaikal@MICROSOFT.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 1997 7:49 PM
> To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
> Subject: Star Trek for CompuColor II
> Anyone have a copy of this gem?
At 06:14 AM 9/27/97 +0000, you wrote:
>Found this on alt.folklore.computers
> We have a working (or at least it was) Nicolet 290 computer. that
> need to vacate the room its been taking up for the last 20+ years.
>This system is rigged up as a test bench for an MRI system (that's
>all still there too) and we have all the manuals, disk packs, paper
>tape programs, banks of core memory etc etc.. I plan to do a small
>inventory of the parts and pieces but if I don't find it a home soon
>it'll get smashed up.
> Does anyone know anything about these computers? I have no idea what
>else they may have been used for or how rare this thing is. Anything
>anyone knows about it could be helpful towards finding it a proper
>home. BTW.. Size wise you're looking at a large console with a plotter
>built in and a short 19 inch rack plus many boxes of disk packs
>(Diablo) and manuals.
> Ken Montgomery
> CSU Sacramento
> kenm(a)csus.edu (Ken Montgomery)
>I've never heard of a Nicolet 290... What is it?
The Nioclet 290 is a dedicated instrument controller and data acquisition
computer made by Nicolet Instrument Corp. in Madison, Wisconsin. Nicolet is
a major manufacturer of Fourier transform (FT) infrared spectrometers, and
at one time also manufactured FT Nuclear Magnetic Resonance spectrometers.
I have one of the 290's great-grandchildren, the NIC 660, still operating a
FTIR spectrometer in my lab. My system was purchased new in 1986, and is
still running reasonably well. I don't know a lot about the 290, but what I
can tell you about these computers in general is that they are essentially
totally proprietary platforms that were designed and built from the ground
up to control FTIR and FT NMR instrumentation and process spectral data.
The design of the systems were optimized to handle fast Fourier
transformation of spectoscopy data "on-the-fly" as it came off of the
spectrometer. These computers use a proprietary operating system written
by Nicolet (NICOS) which is somewhat Forth-like but has a user shell
running on top. The user shell bears some resemblance to Unix. The 660
system I have has applications software for IR spectroscopy, some text
editors, and compilers for Fortran, Basic, and Pascal. Nicolet stopped
manufacturing these computers and switched over to PC's about 3-5 years
ago, but still maintains some limited support (ie, parts and supplies) for
these proprietary machines.
> Is it possible to find out if someone is still subscribed to the list
> other than sending a message to them through the list? What I really
> want to know is: is there a way to get a list of the subscribers
> from the listproc?
Send mail to the List processor with:
..that should do it. If you send "help", it will send back an almost complete
list of commands.
For the past several days, everytime I walk down the hall of my office to
go to the loo, I notice this odd looking computer in another company's
suite. I can only see the back of it, but I can tell it is not a PC
because it seems to have centronics ports on the back, although I only
catch quick glimpses because I'm walking by at my usual energetic clip.
Well tonight I stopped to gawk at it while the cleaning person had their
door open and sure enough its a Victor 9000. I look across the desk to
another computer and see a monitor with the "Victor" nameplate on it as
well. What a trip. Someone in my building is actually still using a
computer which I consider part of my vintage computer collection. I'm
going to talk to them and see what they are using on it. Must be some old
accounting or insurance or real estate or something application. I don't
know what their business is because their name is "Vanier & Associates" so
it could be a front company for an international arms smuggling operation
for all I know.
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At 11:55 PM 9/30/97 -0700, you wrote:
>door open and sure enough its a Victor 9000. I look across the desk to
>another computer and see a monitor with the "Victor" nameplate on it as
>well. What a trip. Someone in my building is actually still using a
>computer which I consider part of my vintage computer collection. I'm
>going to talk to them and see what they are using on it. Must be some old
Please post (or at least e-mail me) with what you find out. The Vic9k has a
special place in my heart (and my collection!) as my folks were considering
purchasing one very early on and I remember being very impressed with its
specs. They also had Victor adding machines (My dad was a CPA.)
>it could be a front company for an international arms smuggling operation
Well, if it is, don't worry about being sued; they probably wouldn't have a
leg to stand on. 8^)
Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
[Note: I saw Hans' message on comp.sys.hp.misc and replied
privately, but figure there might be some other folks here
who want to know this stuff.]
Hans Pufal <hans1(a)filan00.grenoble.hp.com> wrote:
> When I got it home I found that it rattled, so I dismantled it and found
> two large burnt out resistors on the keyboard PCB. The rattle was caused
> by pieces of these resistors in the case.
> Does anyone have docs sufficient to determine the replacement parts for
> these resistors?
Time for some copying from the service manual. Useful information below
is from the HP-97 Programmable Printing Calculator Service Manual,
HP part number 00097-90130, dated August 1976.
Table 4-9. Keyboard Printed-Circuit Assembly A2A1 (00097-60002)
Ref HP p/n Description
R1 0683-4715 RESISTOR, fxd, 470 ohm
R2* 0683-2045 RESISTOR, fxd, 200K
R2* 0684-3341 RESISTOR, fxd, 330K
R3 0812-0058 RESISTOR, fxd, 8.2 ohm, 2W
R4 0811-1674 RESISTOR, fxd, 4.7 ohm, 2W
R5 0698-8691 RESISTOR, fxd, 4.0 ohm, 1%
R6 0683-1835 RESISTOR, fxd, 18K, 5%, 1/4W
R7 0683-3915 RESISTOR, fxd, 390 ohm
CR1 1990-0450 LED, low battery indicator
Q1 1853-0393 TRANSISTOR, PNP
Q2 1853-0401 TRANSISTOR, PNP
Q3 1853-0374 TRANSISTOR, PNP
Q4 1854-0071 TRANSISTOR, NPN
U1 1820-1629 INTEGRATED CIRCUIT, cathode driver
U2 1990-0595 DISPLAY, numeric
U3, 4 1858-0044 INTEGRATED CIRCUIT, quad transistors
U5 1810-0252 INTEGRATED CIRCUIT, resistor network
P1, 2 1251-3955 CONNECTOR, 9-pin
W1 8120-2206 CABLE, 24-conductor
00097-80002 BOARD, etched
R2 is marked with a * because it is selected based on the cathode
driver IC U1. I don't completely get this, but there is a chart
(Table 4-8, Cathode Driver Resistor Selection Chart):
U1 Category: I J
R2: 200K 330K
Given that you say the burned out resistors are "large" I am going to
guess that you are looking for R3 and R4.
Here's the layout toward the rear of the board if that helps.
Q4 R7 R5
> What is the power input requirements for the HP-97?
12.8VAC (from paragraph 2-42).
Actually there is a flowchart that includes a test for the AC adapter.
For approximately 115VAC input, the output should be between
V(in)/10.55 and V(in)/7.82; for 230VAC input, the output should be
between V(in)/21.1 and V(in)/15.65. The next part of the test is
to connect a 10 Ohm +/- 5% 5W load across the output of the AC adapter
and measure the voltage across the load; it should be between 6.2 and
Hope this helps!
NB- I read your message in comp.sys.hp.misc. It looks like you might
have posted it to classiccmp too. I am a bit behind reading that. Feel
free to repost this there.
> I've started collecting old IBM machines, (brand loyalty) and today came
> across a machine called an IBM powerstation 550e. it looks very much like an
> apple /// except it has two floppy drives, a db9, rj11,.and 3 db25 ports on
> the back. i havent powered it up yet as i'm still trying to figure out how to
> open it. I'm off work this week, so I cant ask any of the old IBMers what
> this is. anyone know?
Rather than merely endorsing William D's comments, I think I have one or two
things to add...
1. The keyboards on our RS/6000s at work look exactly like PS/2 keyboards
except there is an ID number printed in the margin of the Num Lock lamp sticker.
It does not have the huge quantity of extra keys found on the 3270 workstations
that I used to work with.
2. The RS/6000 are not very closely related physically to the 6150 (RT PC)
family. Certainly neither our model 320 nor 375 have ISA slots - the slots are
much more like the ones you describe.
3. However, I am puzzled by your physical description. I too expected a large
tower for a 500 series powerstation. In fact I cannot think of any IBM product
that looked like an Apple /// except possibly the Datamaster. Could the name
Powerstation have been used for something other than RS/6000s?