test-drb October 1997

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Update on finds for those that asked and a big rescue coming

by william＠ans.net

> HP3000 types and a couple of stripped down mainframes (not IBM's). Do tell... William Donzelli william(a)ans.net

27 years, 2 months

UPS Shipping

by gmast＠polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu

Has anyone else had to deal with the new UPS guidelines? Our shipping counter has introduced new guidelines for shipping computers. Any computer must be double boxed and packed in 4" of foam. Ok fine. But you can't use peanuts. Oh, and if it's a computer that works, it will be unpacked, tested, repacked then shipped. If it doesn't work it will be returned to you. Good luck. I see the point if they were checking $500 laptops or more. Most stuff I ship is valued at $30 or less. But there are no limits on value for this procedure. I figured it was worth the chance of paying a $30 claim for them not to go through all that. But all computer products and possibly all electronic products will be inspected. On top of this, all computer parts like keyboards, etc must be packed individually and shipped individually. Nothing like 2x, 3x, 4x...shipping costs. So much for those lots of extra parts. I think I'll be writing "household goods" or "books" on my shipments >from now on. Either that or start sending my stuff there for the "$5 testing special"!

27 years, 2 months

CC> Vintage Computer Festival Exhibition Write-ups

by thedm＠sunflower.com

I am the proud owner of a Timex Sinclair 1500 with 2050 modem, and im American enough since I have my own firearm. Now be nice. ---------- > From: SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com > To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu> > Subject: Re: CC> Vintage Computer Festival Exhibition Write-ups > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 1997 8:53 AM > > oh jeez, not again! didnt we have this holy war for several weeks earlier > this year about something similar? put it in private, please! > > david > > In a message dated 97-10-15 02:22:33 EDT, you write: > > << Sam Ismail wrote: > > > > On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, e.tedeschi wrote: > > > > > OK, even if it is the second (third, etc.) most sold computer in the > > > world it is still one of the most popular ever produced and it does not > > > > Oh, so you didn't actually check your facts then? > > > > > excuse the complete lack of interest that it gets in the States. USA is > > > NOT the centre of the world, you know. Spectrum clones have been > > > produced in Russia, Portugal, Brasil, Hungaria, Corea and god know where > > > else and surely many are not in any official statistics ...... > > > > Actually, the USA *IS* the centre of the world. And the UNIVERSE for > > that matter. And we *HATE* the Spectrum in the USA. The Spectrum is > > un-American, and we American's hate things that aren't American, because > > America is the BEST! > > > > And don't you forget that you euro-trash! > > > Here we go again....if it makes you happy..... > > I am still waiting for your answer abotu the Spectrum exhibit. > > Thank you > > enrico > > There you go, Enrico. The abuse you are screaming out for. >>

27 years, 2 months

System statistics debate

by hans1＠filan00.grenoble.hp.com

Gentlemen, Perhaps I can calm the waters a little by pointing out that the statistical claims made by Sinclair regarding the ZX and Spectrum computers were quite probably true AT THAT TIME. Numbers have a habit of changing over time especially when companies go bankrupt. So any such claims must always be considered in the context that they were made. I would presume that the IBM PC and its clones probably handily wins the statistical race today, but we can always hope that that will change in the future ;-) -- Hans B. Pufal : <mailto:hansp@digiweb.com> Comprehensive Computer Catalogue : <http://www.digiweb.com/~hansp/ccc/> _-_-__-___--_-____-_--_-_-____--_---_-_---_--__--_--_--____---_--_--__--_

27 years, 2 months

CC> Vintage Computer Festival Exhibition Write-ups

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

oh jeez, not again! didnt we have this holy war for several weeks earlier this year about something similar? put it in private, please! david In a message dated 97-10-15 02:22:33 EDT, you write: << Sam Ismail wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Oct 1997, e.tedeschi wrote: > > > OK, even if it is the second (third, etc.) most sold computer in the > > world it is still one of the most popular ever produced and it does not > > Oh, so you didn't actually check your facts then? > > > excuse the complete lack of interest that it gets in the States. USA is > > NOT the centre of the world, you know. Spectrum clones have been > > produced in Russia, Portugal, Brasil, Hungaria, Corea and god know where > > else and surely many are not in any official statistics ...... > > Actually, the USA *IS* the centre of the world. And the UNIVERSE for > that matter. And we *HATE* the Spectrum in the USA. The Spectrum is > un-American, and we American's hate things that aren't American, because > America is the BEST! > > And don't you forget that you euro-trash! > Here we go again....if it makes you happy..... I am still waiting for your answer abotu the Spectrum exhibit. Thank you enrico > There you go, Enrico. The abuse you are screaming out for. >>

27 years, 2 months

Keypunch fro 96 column cards

by hans1＠filan00.grenoble.hp.com

James Willing asked: > Now, while the System 3 had a reader/punch for these cards, I can't for > the life of me ever remember seeing a stand-alone keypunch unit for this > format card. I may be showing my age here ;-) but I definitely have used a 96 column card punch. That would have been soon after I joined Burroughs in the early '70s. It was most certainly a Burroughs or Burroughs badged product. As far as finding any, sorry can't help there. -- Hans B. Pufal : <mailto:hansp@digiweb.com> Comprehensive Computer Catalogue : <http://www.digiweb.com/~hansp/ccc/> _-_-__-___--_-____-_--_-_-____--_---_-_---_--__--_--_--____---_--_--__--_

27 years, 2 months

CC> Vintage Computer Festival Exhibition Write-ups

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 03:52 PM 10/13/97 -0700, you wrote: >> start then do a little search on Sinclair and you will find at least 50 >> sites dedicated to the Spectrum. English is not the most widely used And how many C64 sites would show up? Of course, I'd gladly trade you half a dozen C64's for just about any Sinclair... Regardless of whatever, can we remove some of the chips from shoulders and just get on with collecting computers? Or, if you all want to duke it out, send me all your computers first so you don't get blood on them. Then go somewhere else. > language in the world either (Mandarin is). It might not be connected > but it IS relevant to the point. In 1987, the population of china increased by 15 million. Meanwhile, the entire population of Australia in 1987 was 15 million. (Doncha just love Pop-up video?) --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

27 years, 2 months

Bell & Howell Apple

by foxnhare＠goldrush.com

Having just seen some ads for them in older BYTE Magazines, the B&H ads stated that their Apples had only two differences, a black case and a much longer warranty (sometimg like a year or two longer then Apple's), As I recall they cost a little more too. ===-=?=-=-=-=?=-=-===?======?=-=-=?=-=====-==== Also will have a seemingly dead "original Mac" (model number M0001) for sale at the swap, my wife asked me to buy it and after I did she learned it is not a machine you can do much on the internet with, much less have it "read" your newsgroup/E-mail captures... Too divergent >from my Commodore collection and have no desire to convert it to a fish tank (I hear many older Macs suffered that fate) so it goes to swap. ;) Commodore information pages. I've almost got almost all the pics scanned and still have a few more pages of history but it will be done in time Sam. (it should look nice, color inkjet!) BTW I am just going through the 8-bits, Early Commodore History, as well as a few scans/copies of older promotional literature, should be a treat for the Commodore fan to peruse. (It reminds me of all the promotional flyers I had tossed in my youth, a Commodore PET glassy ad in color... A VIC-20 color glossy sheet, and of course, that stack of Creative Computings and Electronic Games magazines **ouch!** just kicked myself again...) Larry Anderson -- -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Visit our web page at: http://www.goldrush.com/~foxnhare/ Call our BBS (Silicon Realms BBS 300-2400 baud) at: (209) 754-1363 -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-

27 years, 2 months

CC> Vintage Computer Festival Exhibition Write-ups

by sinasohn＠crl.com

At 05:35 AM 10/13/97 -0400, you wrote: >the North American readers should try to get a group together to order >Euro machines in bulk for shipment. All of the common ones and some of >If we shipped in bulk, and used actual ocean-going vessels for shipment, >how expensive would this kind of venture be? I know people who ship container-loads (and less) of Land Rover parts over >from across the pond all the time, for not too significant amounts. --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

27 years, 2 months

Mac stuff (was: Wanted Misc Parts)

by sinasohn＠crl.com

>I'd also love to get my hands on a IIci system (for real use) and a Mac As an aside, if anyone has Mac stuff they don't want, my girlfriend can always use more computers in her classroom. We especially need monitors, video cards, scsi CD-ROM drives, and hard drives (<100mb is fine.) Any flavor of mac is fine, though IIsi/ci+ is preferred. Of course, if you want to donate a PowerMac... 8^) Also, if there's anyone in the bay area who knows about fixing/tuning monitors, we could sure use some help there. Or, if you know anything about setting up a Mac network, I'm gonna try and do that, so if you want to volunteer to answer questions, drop me a note too. Thanks! --------------------------------------------------------------------- O- Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad sinasohn(a)crl.com that none but madmen know." Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/

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