Kind of like that. :) There were a couple of trys at this, one being a proprietary protocol used by a BBS called "RoboBBS" or "RoboBoard" (don't remember which). This BBS was accessible by normal methods enough to have it print a menu and allow you to download a new "terminal emulator" that would emulate this fake graphics terminal that didn't really exist. :) Once you have the graphical program, you dial back in with that, and see pictures (vector mostly, but with bitmapped "icons" too. There was a later standardization effort of sorts, which defined another graphical terminal that didn't exist. It used a protocol called RIP (remote imaging protocol?), and most common BBS's supported it, if configured properly, and if you were using a terminal emulator that spoke RIP. I think the best support I've seen for RIP is on Searchlight, or possibly Renegade. (peesee, ms-dos) Chris Christopher Smith, Perl Developer Amdocs - Champaign, IL /usr/bin/perl -e ' print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n"); '