26 Oct
2000
26 Oct
'00
8:32 a.m.
HP SRMs (pre-Unix - will run HP BASIC) available
Some CPUs, some hard drives. All have HPIB ports.
Possibly some printers.
and
HP 340's (diskless) with ethernet, HPIB, serial, & parallel built in.
Will run Unix.
Your cost on any of these would be shipping plus packing at Mailboxes,
Etc., plus $10 per item for us to haul them from the basement, put
them in our trailer and tote them to Mailboxes.
If you're interested, let me know ASAP, as they go to the scrapper on
Monday, 10/30/00 when the company's lease runs out. If you're
familiar with HP stuff and want details, please contact me. If you're
not familiar, I can't help you much, although I *can* read numbers
from front panels if there's anything in particular
you're looking
for. Just trying to save some good, old hardware from the
shredder.
It's located in Lincoln, Nebraska, so if you're within driving
distance this weekend, we can probably arrange something to save you
shipping and handling.
Bill Richman
bill_r(a)inetnebr.com
http://incolor.inetnebr.com
Home of Fun with Molten Metal, technological
oddities, and the original COSMAC Elf
computer simulator!
26 Oct
26 Oct
10:47 a.m.
At 03:32 PM 10/26/00 -0500, Bill wrote:
HP SRM
SRM = Shared Resource Manager. SRMs are basicly file servers altough I
suspect what he has may actually be computers with the SRM interface card
in them. I've never even seen a SRM but I've seen lots of HP computers with
the interface cards. FWIW the computers will still run any of the standard
HP OSs; HP-UX (Unix), BASIC, Pascal and HPL.
s (pre-Unix - will run HP BASIC)
Nope, not pre UNIX. these are all 80s vintage. They will run early
versions of HP-UX (HP's version of UNIX). They will also run the other HP
langages lsted above.
available
Some CPUs, some hard drives. All have HPIB ports.
Possibly some printers.
and
HP 340's (diskless) with ethernet, HPIB, serial, & parallel built in.
Will run Unix.
340 are pizza box sized computers and they make nice compact systems. I
can dig out the details if someone needs them. But you'll need to get the
part number from Bill.
Joe
29 Oct
29 Oct
4:34 p.m.
On Thu, Oct 26, 2000 at 05:47:43PM -0500, Joe wrote:
At 03:32 PM 10/26/00 -0500, Bill wrote:
[I'm a bit late for this...]
I have one SRM server box and here are some details:
Model 50960A with 98204A composite video card (took me a while to
find a monitor.. settled on an on Philips mono), a pretty
normal Human Interface card, 50926A SRM interface card, Moto 68000
with 512 KB memory and a 7946 for mass storage (50 MB hd + 9144 cartridge
tape). Everything in normal DIO-I bus, SRM version 2.2. I also have two
SRM cards that I intend to hook up to some HP-UX boxen but I have to
look up some documentation first (like uh, network topology, termination (?),
cable impedance etc.. in short, I know nothing).
--
Jarkko Teppo
jate(a)uwasa.fi
HP SRM
SRM = Shared Resource Manager. SRMs are basicly file servers altough I
suspect what he has may actually be computers with the SRM interface card
in them. I've never even seen a SRM but I've seen lots of HP computers with
the interface cards. FWIW the computers will still run any of the standard
HP OSs; HP-UX (Unix), BASIC, Pascal and HPL.
10:52 p.m.
At 08:34 AM 10/30/00 +0200, Jarrko wrote:
[I'm a bit late for this...]
I have one SRM server box and here are some details:
Model 50960A with 98204A composite video card (took me a while to
find a monitor.. settled on an on Philips mono), a pretty
normal Human Interface card, 50926A SRM interface card, Moto 68000
with 512 KB memory and a 7946 for mass storage (50 MB hd + 9144 cartridge
tape). Everything in normal DIO-I bus, SRM version 2.2. I also have two
SRM cards that I intend to hook up to some HP-UX boxen but I have to
look up some documentation first (like uh, network topology, termination (?),
cable impedance etc.. in short, I know nothing).
This is the "server" portion of the system? I've been wondering what
kind of computer system it required and weather or not it used the same SRM
interface card. I haven't been able to find any details about the server
end of the system. What is the SRM software like?
Joe
HP SRM
SRM = Shared Resource Manager. SRMs are basicly file servers altough I
suspect what he has may actually be computers with the SRM interface card
in them. I've never even seen a SRM but I've seen lots of HP computers with
the interface cards. FWIW the computers will still run any of the standard
HP OSs; HP-UX (Unix), BASIC, Pascal and HPL.
10:31 p.m.
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 07:52:37AM -0500, Joe wrote:
This is the "server" portion of the system? I've been wondering what
kind of computer system it required and weather or not it used the same SRM
interface card. I haven't been able to find any details about the server
end of the system. What is the SRM software like?
The card does seem to be the same, the machine is unlike anything I've seen
so far. The box looks like the normal HP mini-rack stuff though. I was
surprised at the video interface, since I was expecting a normal HP
1280x1024 or similar at 60Hz. Well, it *did* say "composite video" on the
card. One of the HP-IB connectors is connected directly to the back ie. not
via a DIO-I card and there's no processor card as such.
The boot looks like a 9000/300 series boot, first it identifies the processor,
then peripherals (or the cards), then the memory and then it searches for
a bootable system.
It starts up booting SRM and it comes up very quickly. On the top row(s) it
shows some load values, requests and other status-related stuff and the
rest of the screen estate is for issuing commands. Help is available via
HElp (it's possible to do (not so)VMS-like command abbreviations) and the
commands I remember are:
SYstem UP/DOWN
VAlidate arguments
TIme arguments (by default it suggests a date from 1983)
some USer related stuff and other commands.
I don't remember any more details (oh yes, there was backup too) since
I just powered it up for the first time during the weekend and I have no
docs and zero experience with SRM.
So if someone has a "SRM explained for Zen-searching dummies" I'd like
a copy. Or a clue-by-four.
--
Jarkko Teppo
jate(a)uwasa.fi
30 Oct
30 Oct
2:19 a.m.
New subject: Vaxstation Sucess!
Just wanted to HOOT a bit.
This morning I got TCPIP installed and configured on my Vaxstation
4000/60. I then got in on my lan and installed Netscape for OpenVMS. I
am now surfing on my VAX!
Hurray!
The package name was TCPIP instead of what should have been something like
TCPIP_vax050 which was the name if the PCSI kit. Whatever, I beat the
machine again!
Regards and thanks all,
Jeff
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5:15 p.m.
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 06:53:06PM +0000, Tony Duell wrote:
[good description snipped]
Is there any way to make it do something useful other
than act as an SRM
server? Not having any other machines with SRM interfaces, a server is
not a lot of use as it stands...
(DISCLAIMER: I don't know.)
It is remotely similar to a 9000/310 ? If I remember correctly 310 had a
68010 and probably the same HP DMA chip too. The DIO-I bus is pretty
standard, the only thing that might need changing could be the video
card. I really don't know, I've never used HP BASIC.
I just remembered, I have one 310 lying around somewhere, though I'll be
able to look at it during the weekend. I guess I'll need HP BASIC on
9144 (or 9145) carts.
Iff you're really adventurous you could try use some parts of the
NetBSD/hp300 code and roll your own OS. The bus, HP-IB chips, DMA controller,
HIL stuff etc. are the same (locore.s wouldn't probably help that much:)
If you have HP BASIC you could give it a shot.
--
Jarkko Teppo
jate(a)uwasa.fi
31 Oct
31 Oct
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6:24 p.m.
On Tue, Oct 31, 2000 at 06:44:25PM +0000, Tony Duell wrote:
Argh, now I have rip open one of my machines. I was always under the illusion
that the DMA chip/board in the 300 series was made by HP.. gotta check.
Anyway, at least some of the hp300 machines have HP 98620 DMA
"card". The 320 has 98620B, then there are revs 98620A and 98620C.
At least the 380 (and 382) have 98620C which has 2 channels.
I would *love* to have some *good* hardware docs for the 300-series (oh well,
the 500-series too :) as I'm trying to hack together a driver for the
parallel port on some of the 300-series machines. Finding reasonable
information is, ummm, challenging. Anyway, I have the register definitions,
I *think* I know how the FIFO behaves but I still have some things I don't
know.
And I still don't know how to build an SRM-network (sigh).
--
Jarkko Teppo
jate(a)uwasa.fi
68010 and
probably the same HP DMA chip too. The DIO-I bus is pretty
The DMA chip is a Motorola part, 68440 IIRC. It appears to br a 2-channel
version of the 68450 (which is 4 channels)
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