24 Apr
2001
24 Apr
'01
7:56 p.m.
On what a 8050 drive can work on
Every PET/CBM except the ones with the original ROMs, and the CBM II
series (B128, P500, B600, 700, etc.)
The 8050 is a dual 1/2 megabyte (per floppy) drive using quad density
(96tpi) single sided disks (not to be confused with high density, I have
read double density disks can be used in a pinch), usualy more common to
find 8050 software disks used in the CBM business line or the CBM-II
(B1-28) line then in the mass consumer PETs.
Unfortunaltely it cannot read 1541 or 2040/4040/2031 disks. But I have
heard you can read a half of a 8250 disk with it (8250 is a dual sided
quad density drive)
see also: http://www.jps.net/foxnhare/petfaq.html
On the cable...
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:22:00 -0500
From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhblake(a)bigfoot.com>
Subject: Hmm...what the heck kind of cable is this????
In a batch of power adapters and cables I found a stereotypical Commodore
style beige serial type cable, having the DIN plug on the end - but only on
one end. The other end is a 25 pin female d-sub. I know it's factory as the
housing for the 25 pin has the C= emblem molded into it.
...
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:04:13 -0500
From: "Russ Blakeman" <rhblake(a)bigfoot.com>
Subject: RE: Hmm...what the heck kind of cable is this????
Okay I looked quick and "assumed" it was a 25, might be a 23...I completely
forgot that it might be video. I guess they are made strictly for Commodore
brand monitors...
23 pin d-sub mini to DIN is a 1084 monitor (DIN) to Amiga (23 pin d-sub
mini) cable. For that monitor to an 8-bit it would have been DIN to DIN
(not sure of the monitor configuration though). Commodore for a short
time used these nasty DIN connectors on their 1084 monitors which were
non standard... (probably got a deal on DIN jacks, eh?)
I belive Magnavox did release some of thier branded monitors with that
connetor too... :/
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25 Apr
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12:37 p.m.
Tony Duell skrev:
Looking at how many models of the 1084 there have been, the 1084 model seems
more like a way of life than a particular model. =)
At the neighbourhood salvation army, there is a Philips 14" TV boasting RGB
capability. I think it's got a DIN connector, and it's still got a service
manual in a pocket in the back.
> 23 pin d-sub mini to DIN is a 1084 monitor (DIN)
to Amiga (23 pin d-sub
> mini) cable. For that monitor to an 8-bit it would have been DIN to DIN
> (not sure of the monitor configuration though). Commodore for a short
> time used these nasty DIN connectors on their 1084 monitors which were
> non standard... (probably got a deal on DIN jacks, eh?)
>
> I belive Magnavox did release some of thier branded monitors with that
> connetor too... :/
From looking at
the schematics of some versions of the 1084, I would
swear it's a Philips design
:-). And of course Philips == Magnavox. So
it's not suprising that Philips used those infernal DIN connectors at one
point as well. Still, they're better than SCART connectors (now
there's a connector the
designer of which should be LARTed...).
Why? I find it an extremely useful connector. No connector comes close in both
standardisation and amount of signals.
I am not sure what connector should be used for RGB
video. 3, 4, or 5
BNCs (depending on how you handle syncs) is the proper way to do it, but
it's inconvenient to connect, and bulky. All the other common video
connectors (SCART, D-connectors, DINs, etc) are not proper video
connectors at all...
Why not? And how about the 3W3?
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About 15 years ago(in 1984), I played many time HYDLIDE like monkey's self-
acting! HaHaHa!! Here in Nippon(Japan), many many MSX Freak played HYDLIDE
1/2/3 on MSX1/2. Perhaps, also you like HYDLIDE series!!!
K. Ikeda, MSX-Print
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2:05 p.m.
Howdy!
The 1984p was made by philips and was sold under a couple of different brands
I believe.
Bill Claussen
elecdata1
Tony Duell wrote:
On what a 8050 drive can work on
Every PET/CBM except the ones with the original ROMs, and the CBM II
series (B128, P500, B600, 700, etc.)
The 8050 is a dual 1/2 megabyte (per floppy) drive using quad density
(96tpi) single sided disks (not to be confused with high density, I have
Are you sure it's 96tpi? I've read somewhere that the 8050 is actually
one of the rare 100tpi drives, although I can't be certain. It would be
nice to have a definite statement on this....
Unfortunaltely it cannot read 1541 or
2040/4040/2031 disks. But I have
heard you can read a half of a 8250 disk with it (8250 is a dual sided
quad density drive)
I believe that is correct....
23 pin d-sub mini to DIN is a 1084 monitor (DIN)
to Amiga (23 pin d-sub
mini) cable. For that monitor to an 8-bit it would have been DIN to DIN
(not sure of the monitor configuration though). Commodore for a short
time used these nasty DIN connectors on their 1084 monitors which were
non standard... (probably got a deal on DIN jacks, eh?)
I belive Magnavox did release some of thier branded monitors with that
connetor too... :/
From looking at the schematics of some versions of
the 1084, I would
swear it's a Philips design :-). And of course Philips ==
Magnavox. So
it's not suprising that Philips used those infernal DIN connectors at one
point as well.
Still, they're better than SCART connectors (now there's a connector the
designer of which should be LARTed...).
I am not sure what connector should be used for RGB video. 3, 4, or 5
BNCs (depending on how you handle syncs) is the proper way to do it, but
it's inconvenient to connect, and bulky. All the other common video
connectors (SCART, D-connectors, DINs, etc) are not proper video
connectors at all...
-tony
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